5/15/2008 9:32 PM
Hidoll wrote:
It's funny how once upon a time people thought of The Jackson like they were the royal family. Now 30+yrs later they're the most dysfunction family around.
I still say 80% of it is Joe's fault for having a abusive way of raising them and Ms. Kathrine is 20% to blame for standing by allowing it to happen. The reason I say 20% for her is because she comes from a time when women had to let the husband rule the roost and have the upper hand. Not to mention she looked the other way all while he was out creeping Reply to this
5/16/2008 5:48 AM
SouthnDiva wrote:
Hidoll, girl, I agree with you and don't forget Ms. Kate, she let him act a dang fool because she was so trying to be the perfect wife. I would have put a skillet upside that head for acting a fool with me and beating my children like that but I will say this, he did recognize their talent and pushed them to be a dynamic singing group! He did do that right! Reply to this
5/16/2008 6:12 AM
Hidoll wrote:
Happy Friday SouthnDiva Yeah I would have gone upside his abusive cheating head azz 2.
And if he even thought about trying to hit me back I'd have him arrested
The ONLY upside about Joe Jackson is that he pushed them to be a dynamic singing group. And even though they each have their share of issues everyone loved and admired The Jackson 5 And a few of the others had a little somethin somethin going for a minute and I do mean a minute. Jermaine(Let's Get Serious) Rebbie I can't remember that trainwreck song she made,LaToya( she's just a trainwreck,but she can't help it) and of course baby sister Ms. Janet is a DIVA
The only two talented Jackson who's loved by all is Micheal & Janet Reply to this
5/15/2008 8:17 PM
Negrita wrote:
I haven't figured out yet who "Edwin" is.. I have a list of the others from Dean's book. Reply to this
5/16/2008 7:56 AM
UrGirlluck wrote:
Please..... share, because this dude is driving me crazy with the undercover names. Reply to this
5/16/2008 2:15 PM
BigWin wrote:
I'm not buying the book... I'm not into what dude is banging which other dude, but I'll say this; if your facts are real, then why not just blast those names out on front street?
Say what you want to about Superhead, but she at least came out with the info and still has yet to be sued over her books... Don't count Tigger, that mess started on the radio, and who knows where that crap is at right now, but the others in the books, nobody has said a word...
5/15/2008 8:20 PM
SheKnows wrote:
Tupac rapped briefly about Haitian Jack on one of them songs from his "Makavelli" album. I used to be a big rap head...Haitian Jack was reportedly Bad News in the Hip Hop community. Folks were saying that he had set Tupac up.I remember when their was a lot of Buzz about Haitian Jack, when Tupac was killed.Shortly after Tupac was murdered the rumors began to fly that he wasn't really dead,that he was in the Bahamas,and that he was part of a government program called MK-Ultra??? It was also rumors that he Tupac was working with the feds. There was some really strange things surrounding his death... Reply to this
5/15/2008 10:13 PM
Nubian wrote: Project MK-Ultra was an secret mind control program sponsered by the CIA.They used various experiments,some with the drug LCD.Alot of this came during the much slept on Church Commitee hearings in 1975,which brought to light the intelligence communties covert activities.Some key people who had knowledge of various covert,"black op" activities mysteriously "died" of during this key time.Example: Sam Giancana Reply to this
5/16/2008 9:08 AM
lioness wrote:
correct ,also mk ultra aka monarch program , which disney was supposedly apart of .... monarch usually have butterfly tattoos ... some people who are supposedly mk ultra slaves were....
marilyn monroe anna nicole britney maddonna
there are even books written by former mk ultra slaves , one who said she was dick cheney's slave ( u can google this ) ... supposedly dick hunted his slaves ...
now nubian , have u heard of gang stalking , a famous black writer claims this happened to her , read her account here : Gloria Naylor. “1996″.. she wrote brewster place ,,, this will blow your mind Reply to this
5/16/2008 9:43 AM
SheKnows wrote:
Hey Lioness, You are on it. Don't forget " The King" Elvis. The biggest stars are mostly parts of it. They say Mariah however most of the web pages about her have disappeared? Reply to this
5/16/2008 9:45 AM
SheKnows wrote:
Hey Nubian, You too are on it. I knew about Mk-Ultra for about 3 years or so... It's something else isn't it. Oh I don't want to get to deep. But, I could go on... Reply to this
5/15/2008 10:58 PM
MindSupreme wrote:
Good info cuz. Though I can't see Pac in MK-Ultra with Panther running through his veins, I CAN see Haitian Jack as being a plant and government informant designed to divide and conquer, you know, "we'll let you slang that shit if you just get us pac". Here's a test for you Nubian: I see Haitian Jack as the hip hop John Ali. Reply to this
5/15/2008 11:31 PM
Nubian wrote: "I see Haitian Jack as the hip hop John Ali"
Ahh yes "The Judas Factor" hip hop style.The thirty pieces of silver technique is still effective,especially in the black community,sigh.
The day Tupac was born his name was on the FBI file.With Pac's black panther background combined with his growing mass appeal from his rap & movie roles there is no doubt the FEDS had him under surveillance. Like Cokely said about the intelligence community determining who could be a threat.... "intentions + capability=threat"
Keep in mind rap music was probably the last vehicle of uncensored free speech for the conscious blackman & woman that the Gov't didn't control. Reply to this
5/15/2008 11:41 PM
MindSupreme wrote:
No doubt. I've measured people up with that equation for at least the last 5 years - never let me down yet. On the proactive side, that equation gives you two highy effective means to REDUCE the threat of an opposing force (person, institution, whatever): reduce their capability or CHANGE their intentions... Reply to this
5/15/2008 8:35 PM
Peaches wrote:
I'm a big Tupac fan, but I'd never heard the backstory behind that rape situation. That was all the way messed up. Especially considering he was warned twice. SMH. I wish I could take Nikki Giovanni's class on his writings.
PR has got me so addicted to fixer culture! It's hard to believe somebody's crochety grandpa was a master fixer. He's clearly more dangerous than today's fixers in that he accomplished all that he did without the computers or high tech gadgets of today. Fascinating!
Loved how Eartha Kitt handled Miss Ross. Miss Ross would have prob cursed her out if it were the other way around, but Kitty Kat Eartha handled that with class. Reply to this
5/15/2008 8:39 PM
Paris wrote:
Peaches, rent the film Munich, papa and his son are throughout the film, he was fascinating, you will be transfixed when he's on screen. Reply to this
5/15/2008 8:48 PM
Peaches wrote:
He had a son in that life, too? Wow. Okay, Munich & Cover are on my to-find list this weekend. (Ya know, it's bad enough I'm on this site all the time, but now when I'm not, I'm watching a movie or reading book recommended by this site! ) Reply to this
5/16/2008 9:12 AM
lioness wrote:
hi paris i never wanted to see that movie , but i watched it late last year , and that blew my mind ... that fixer was no joke . erics character , was very lucky in the end . Reply to this
5/15/2008 9:49 PM
Hidoll wrote:
I agree Peaches, maybe she was trying to teach them something.
I thnk Eartha might not feel like she's beautiful because of the things she went through when she was growing up.
She was always mistreated by both race the whites didnt like her because she was too black and the blacks didn't accept her because she was too light. She said her mother's boyfriend called her "That Yella Gal" when Ms. Eartha was growing up it was hard for her,her mom and her baby sister. She said when they found a place to stay(because they were always moving around) she said that the black family they stayed with didn't want her in the house because she was too light and they thought it might cause problems. So they told her mother they didn't want that yella gal in the house she had to sleep on the porch while her mother and sister slept in the house. So maybe when Diana Ross said what she said to her the painful memories of being called ugly names came back and she felt like that yella gal and thats why she said I'm not half as beautiful as you walking out icy and cold. As to say if only you ladies knew Reply to this
5/15/2008 9:57 PM
Peaches wrote:
Eartha Kitt is so beautiful to me. Especially in that time period, she had that pin-up glam look. But you're right, you never know what's going on behind the smile. My pastor used to say, You see my glory, but you don't know my story. Reply to this
I have always thought Eartha Kitt was beautiful too in the 70's she, Freida Payne and someone else who's name I can't think of were the 3 most beautiful women back then. And Ms. Eartha Mae Kitt has always had a body on her, she's damn near 80 and she still has a body that can put some of these skinny azz models to shame with or without panties MARCUS. I like what your pastor said that makes so much sense.
!1da my second thought was the same as yours Ms.Diana "ALL ATTENTION ON ME" Ross just had to say something and then what she said would have ticked me off too.
I know she though she meant well but somethings you have to think before you speak,you might think your saying something nice but it comes out rude or offensive.
Oh and for the record Diana Ross looks nothing like Eartha Kitt so whomever told her did lied. Reply to this
5/16/2008 6:43 AM
Soul Train wrote:
Hidoll, happy Friday fam, I agree with everything, Ross was trying to take the spotlight with her stupid question. Miss Eartha still ain't no joke and because of that white guy who founded Revlon, he gave her great investment tips and she owns some of his company stock. Read her book, PR did excerpts, her mother abandonded her and a sibling for a man. The last sight she saw of he mom was walking off in the sunset with her back turned with this man, never saw her since. The man refused to take Eartha because she was to light and he refused the other kid to. Eartha went through hell, relatives refused them shelter when they she was traveling on a dirt road with her mom and sister, the only person that gave them shelter was a blind woman who couldn't see Eartha's complexion. Confessions Of A Sex Kitten is a must have, order it today. Reply to this
I have Confessions Of A Sex Kitten I bought it yrs ago. Good Book I recommend it highly
Ms. Eartha was treated like dirt, I don't want to give away to much of what's in the book but I remember about the blind lady letting taking them in and before that how they was from one place to the other, sleeping in barns and sheds. Yrs ago I saw a special on Eartha Kitt I think it was on PBS anyway she was with a camera crew they were in a car, she went back to where she grew up they stop by the house it may have been the blind lady house while there some man came to the car and when she told him she was Eartha Mae(I don't think he still knew who she was and I think he called her sister) but he was acting like he was all glad to see her hugging her Eartha was big about it she hugged him back and smiled.
And when they was leaving Ms. Earth said her goodbyes, as they drove away you could tell it was hurtful memories she looked so sad she had gotten quiet, then she said how phoney of a greeting that was that he's no more related to her then the man in the moon. I was sad because she looked like she was about to cry
Diana Ross has been spoiled by Barry for so long she may have been trying to rub it me Eartha's face and making like Ms. Eartha should feel grateful people think she looks like her(I don't see it) but Diana Ross always thought she looked like another legend enough like her to play her Ms. Josephine Baker. So she just think she looks like whomever she wants when the mood strikes her I guess. Diana Ross looks like Diana Ross
I know she must to have felt like she could use a big winter coat when Ms. Eartha made her icy exit
Wonder how Diana Ross would react if a up and coming young girl said to her that people think she looks and sings like her? Reply to this
5/16/2008 11:32 AM
poppy wrote:
I guess I could see a passing resemblance due to the fact that they both had those square jaws. One things for sure, Eartha's uncoventional, feminine style of singing paved the way for Diana's voice to grace pop radio in the 60s. Reply to this
5/16/2008 12:07 PM
Hidoll wrote:
Hi Poppy, how are you? paved the way is right.So if anything the first words out of Diana's mouth should have been how great is ws to meet her and a thanks for paving the way. Reply to this
5/16/2008 12:28 PM
poppy wrote:
Hey Hidoll, I'm good, thanks 4 asking. Well at least Diana said something to Eartha, I've heard she's so in awe of Barbra Streisand that she's scared to say anything in her presence, I'm like why? They're both alike if u ask me. Reply to this
5/16/2008 12:52 PM
Hidoll wrote:
Poppy, maybe it's a vibe you know how you can get a vibe from someone?
I have gotten plenty of vibes from people and I have mostly being right about the vibes
Poppy girl what are you doing this weekN? I plan on being lazy, then I'm clean the house, bake a Red Velvet Cake for my neigbor, then lazy again, then I'll plant some tomotoes. Then I might be lazy again
It's easy since I don't have kids if I'm not hanging out with my friends I'm being you know lazy. Reply to this
5/16/2008 7:16 PM
Hidoll wrote:
Poppy, you big slice is waiting for ya with a cream cheese icing and pecan topping Reply to this
5/15/2008 10:42 PM
i1da wrote:
You know, I read it another way. I read it as Eartha was being sarcastic because Diana was trying to steal some of her thunder. Reply to this
5/15/2008 9:18 PM
SouthnDiva wrote:
Loving the info on the front page! Great job Myra and Paris, you guys keep us in the "know!" Reply to this
5/15/2008 9:25 PM
BlessedWoman wrote:
I must admit, I agree with the info on the front page about Obama, if he wants to win, he will need Hillary and not Edwards, especially if McCain chooses Condi.
McCain and Condi on the same ticket would be a sure win if Obama doesnt swallow his pride and add Hillary to his ticket. Reply to this
5/15/2008 9:54 PM
Peaches wrote:
See I kinda see as would Hillary swallow HER pride and accept an offer to be VP. It's Hilary's pride that still has her in there now. I think they would be a dream ticket together, but will she humble herself to take second place. Reply to this
5/16/2008 10:44 AM
BlessedWoman wrote:
I really dont think she will be the problem. If you remember during the debate each was asked would they invite the other to run with them as vice, Hillary never got a chance to answer. She looked over at him and he had already started answering, he wont need her to add him because he will be president. At that point, she decided not to answer. So he will need to check himself and understand that he cant win it alone.
Hell, I'm not a Republican but might vote McCain/Condi just on his reaction and response to that question alone. Reply to this
5/15/2008 10:38 PM
i1da wrote:
I respectfully disagree, Hilary is too polarizing, especially outside of the democratic party. I don't see her accepting anyway. Hilary is what 60, basically if she does run for VP and there is a two term presidency her next shot at running for president will be in 8 years at 68 after running under someone she clearly underestimated as a threat to her candidacy. She would be better off if a Republican was in office for the next 4 years and she could run again at 64. I am sorry, but a 68 female president is a hard sell, look at how people are speaking of McCain's age.
I have always thought that John Edwards would be the perfect VP for him, he needs a southern white male on his ticket, plus, I really like John Edwards. I think that having Rice run for VP would be great for Obama, because then there would not be the wild card issue of race in the election. Reply to this
5/16/2008 5:51 AM
Strategist wrote:
Hey Ida, according to Washington insiders, if Obama really wants the White House, Hillary is the strongest candidate to help him win it right now! I heard also that Michelle Obama is holding him back from going with Hillary, pointing him in Edwards' direction which is understandable because of the personal attacks by Hillary but sometimes you have to let the personal stuff go, especially in politics if you want the white house and work together. John Edwards is not the perfect candidate in terms of votes for Obama, he will sink him. I realize you like Edwards but in this case he will hold Obama back and out of the White House. Bottom line. Reply to this
5/16/2008 6:02 AM
Lobbyist wrote:
Great points strat, and all this talk of polarizing is bull, who is she polarizing, blacks? Blacks only make up 12 percent of the population and fewer than half of that amount vote. Even if she does polarize, Obama can pick up those black votes she polarized. Reply to this
5/16/2008 10:00 AM
PinkSilk wrote:
Nice points Strategist and Lobbyist. If Obama wants to win, he will have to bring in Hillary. She can bring in the big states, he can't. Edwards will not bring in votes for Obama.
They have to be strategic and practical about this. Reply to this
5/16/2008 10:08 AM
Lobbyist wrote:
Exactly, posters like Poppy don't understand the dynamics of politics and make decisions with emotions like H-Bomb pointed out. I think Poppy even criticized blacks once before for supporting Hillary and asked how can Oprah still associate with Maya Angelou since she is supporting Hillary which is just stupid because everyone has a right to vote for who they want to. I guess all blacks are supposed to think and vote alike, put all their eggs in one basket, a one dimensional race when whites can vote republican and democrat and still be the best of friends and agree to disagree. Blacks are way too emotional over this and are not thinking from a strategic viewpoint. Hillary can bring in big states and the Latino vote which Obama lacks. If running with her can get him to the white house, why not. Should he just sit on the sidelines with his lips pouted out, mad at something she said and lose with Edwards, hell no! Think with your mind and not your emotions. Reply to this
5/16/2008 10:39 AM
PinkSilk wrote:
It really is about strategy, and planning to win versus getting caught up in emotions. I like some of the things Ron Paul says about the Federal Reserve System, and amazed at how the same things he is saying are the ideas that JFK was putting into place when he was killed. But at the end of the day, how practical and strategic would a vote for Ron Paul be right now? You have to vote with a plan.
Lobbyist, I was wondering if you could shed some light on the MI/Florida votes. Some say if they were included, Hillary would be the frontrunner? But Obama doesn't want them counted? Reply to this
5/16/2008 10:43 AM
i1da wrote:
Just popping in for a minute. Oh how I would love to live in the matrix that is Panache ... but duty calls.
As noted by the below sited 2006 Time Magazine article Hilary is polarizing not to blacks but those independents and republicans who would vote for Obama. Now, if it is as others have posted here than after all of the mud slinging that goes on in the champaign then everyone gets behind the democratic nomination then there really should be no problem with Obama and the democratic base, should there.
Also, Hilary is not as strong as she was previously with the Latino vote after firing her Latina campaign manager and disavowing Governor Richards for supporting Obama.
I won't get into who has been more emotional and pouting in this race between Hilary and Obama, but I will say that I believe that Obama is a very intellectual and intelligent person and if he is putting together a ticket he is looking at if purely from a logical standpoint.
... Most Americans agree that Hillary Clinton is intelligent (81%) and that she's politically moderate (67%). She's the Democratic nominee they'd support the most if she runs for President (leading the field with 46%, just ahead of Al Gore's 41). And a majority (53%) agree that she makes a generally favorable impression. They don't agree on much else.
As reported in this week's magazine, red and blue America have strongly divergent views on Hillary. (The complete TIME poll — which will be available on time.com on Monday — shows just how far apart these views are.) It's as though their television sets broadcast two entirely different versions of the evening news. In Blue America, they're watching a Lifetime movie about the country's first female President. In Red America, they're watching Godzilla. In one America, she's smart, committed, likable, with strong values and empathy for people like them, and in the other she's an ambitious, callous appeaser. Republicans also think she's a "divider and not a uniter" (52%). Just going by the numbers, the Republicans have a point.
5/16/2008 10:03 AM
H-Bomb wrote:
You can't trust anyone in politics. So trust should not be an issue, he can't even trust John Edwards. In Washington, there are only two kinds on Capitol Hill, allies and enemies. To win the White House, personal feelings are put aside, so what she slung mud, that's how politics are played. Obama will not be able to trust any running mate and can he be trusted since his voting record is spotty and his entire cabinet will more than likely be white. A lot of blacks seem to be voting on race and emotion when they are not researching facts, Obama cannot trust anyone and Edwards will do him in just as fast. Would you feel better if he put his trust in a white man like Edwards, lol. Reply to this
5/16/2008 10:09 AM
PinkSilk wrote:
"A lot of blacks seem to be voting on race and emotion when they are not researching facts"
- I agree H-Bomb. I can barely have conversations with the women in my family about Obama because they get so irate and emotional about him. Reply to this
5/16/2008 10:11 AM
Anonymous wrote:
i think people don't give blacks enough credit. most blacks who are voting for obama know that he will be the president of the USA and NOT the president of black america.
so what if the majority of his cabinet is white?
most people who are voting for obama, regardless of ethnicity, vote for him because they see the importance of a unified nation. no house can continue to stand divided. Reply to this
5/16/2008 10:35 AM
Lobbyist wrote:
I agree with Sandra Rose on one comment, Obama will not win the presidency over a white man, point blank, period, especially if Condi Rice is along for the ride with McCain because I heard George W. and Daddy Bush (a president and a former president) are pushing for her inclusion on the ticket. Obama's best chance to win, add Hillary to the ticket to make up slack with Latino's, on the fence whites and big states. I disagree, most blacks are voting for Obama because he is black and they admit as much. He can talk about change all day and night but he better back up his White House run with someone on his ticket who can help him. We recently did a Capitol survey about this and a very high percentage of blacks are voting because he is black. Reply to this
5/16/2008 10:50 AM
i1da wrote:
Hmmmm, I remember not so long ago how several people on this board were saying that Obama would not win the democratic nomination, how Hilary was going to blow him out of the water with all of her intelligence gathering and mud slinging, and how a black man would never win over a white woman period ... because of course he is still a black man. Reply to this
5/16/2008 11:10 AM
Lobbyist wrote:
I admit, good point. Hope the brotha goes all the way. We are just having a roundtable discussion that brings out different opinions. Tipping my hat. Reply to this
5/16/2008 3:57 PM
Anonymous wrote:
...and most whites who are voting for hillary vote for her because she is white.
see cullard folks ain't the one that do this... BUT we always have to validate any and all that we do. Reply to this
5/16/2008 11:28 AM
poppy wrote:
Yeah, I feel u H-bomb, slinging mud IS the game of politics, but Hilary not only slung mud she dragged the man through it. Michelle's got to have good reason for swaying himm away from her. Frankly, I think too much damage has been done for him just to fall back and invite her even in politcs, but who knows. Reply to this
5/16/2008 10:13 PM
Nubian wrote: "A lot of blacks seem to be voting on race and emotion when they are not researching facts, Obama cannot trust anyone and Edwards will do him in just as fast.
LOL,hell its not just blacks there are plenty of unsophisticated white folks voting with their emotions & fears as well.The rethuglicans are good at diverting the attention of legitimate issues and turning it into a fear campaign using coded buzz words like,"liberal","moral","welfare","patriotism","jeremiah wright",etc etc.Its all a pyschological game.Btw Billary has mastered this game as well.she claims she has "experience" to fix the economy but her hubby was all for NAFTA,which once again sold out the middle class.Puhleeze!!
Imma Holla cuz I hear you! having Hillary as VP would the biggest mistake Obama makes. Oh, too much shit has been said and done! Hillary is too divisive, her sense of entitlement is so overwhelming you can see her foaming at the mouth to win at any cost. I think she's more interested in winning for the sake of winning another ego boost that she's not really thinking of the job at hand and what this country need and the type of person needed to represent it. She keeps talking about this "experience" she has, when was she ever president? standing by her man and waving for the cameras makes her more president worthy? hell let's not forget Bush claimed experience too and is the son of former president. She's jeopardizing the democratic party with her and her husbands tactics. Having Hillary as VP to me is just for the sake of making history it won't be because its the best thing for the country.
And further more 'Blow Job' Bill will be there too if she was to be VP. Between Hillary and Bill bumping heads on how shit is to supposed to be done and Barack having to remind them both that HE'S president we'd be in the same damn mess we're in now. Besides Michelle Obama has already said 'HELL TO THE NAH' regarding Hillary riding VP. Let Hilary's shabby dressing ass research a decent stylist I say with them damn elmer fudd type pantsuits.....ewwww Reply to this
5/16/2008 8:55 AM
lioness wrote:
good morning everyone !!!!! ( sorry for any typos below)
hillary , will do him in . anyway it is his fate , i really feel he is a sacrifical lamb in this situation .... Any widesweeping change , needs control of the army or a private army ... privitization of the miltary forces is going on now , private contracters ..,.. I am sure myra knows this as see features contract killers / fixers on this site alot ...
Yes obama is a sacrificial lamb . If he is going to be in this position , he better not take john edwards , he needs a smart money man , not hillary who will might even try to create scandal during his term to push for impeachment . He needs a money man on the level of bloomberg , money talks and makes the rest shut up .
although obamas initial strategy for gaining money was smart ( even if taken from dean's playbook ) anyone can do it now , so power can easily switch with the technology herd , with a click of the mouse ...
I like michelle , but i hope she knows they are gunning for her tough ...
Rice , is impressive , her background is interesting , being that she had personal struggles and tragedies rooted in the civil rights era is formidable , in our struggle ... But the ? is who is she really , who are all these people really ???
actually none of them work for me if they keep pressuring china , i think none of them know how to deal in china , because they never went to live or spend time with the people to understand what really is the situation ... There are many faults in condis , trasformational diplomacy policy , starting with the privileged diplomats they really don't know what is going on in the countries they are in , they are seperate , driving their white suvs and living in private compoounds , this is not the way .....
also renouncing wright was not smart on Obamas part ... I for one belive in wright , and feel the black church is relevant as the catholic church , and i do not think he is a buffoon (even though we know what they really wanted to call him ) if he denounced wright , then why not go back to barry instead of barack Reply to this
5/16/2008 11:34 AM
litigating wrote:
Condoleeza was raised in the heart of the civil rights struggle but she has said repeatedly that it did not affect her. She nor her family participated in any protests . She even said that although she grew up down the street from Denise McNair she didn't know her that well. I went to college there and I am amazed that anyone could live in that city and not feel the pain that came from that struggle. There's being sheltered and then there's just plain living in denial.
Now I'm not knocking the sister, I appreciate all that she has accomplished but I've also noticed that successful Black people in this country who attempt to distance themselves from Black people in this country seem to fall hard. The very people they wanted to be identified with seem to be gunning for them... Can we say OJ and Barry Bonds just to name two.
If Condi makes that ticket look out. Besides McCain needs a more conservative running mate because the right wing are not singing his praises. Reply to this
it is stated on wiki ( ok maybe not so reliable, also can be updated ) 1) that her "friend " Denise was killed in the bombing of the 16th street baptist church , quote
"I remember the bombing of that Sunday School at 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham in 1963. I did not see it happen, but I heard it happen, and I felt it happen, just a few blocks away at my father’s church. It is a sound that I will never forget, that will forever reverberate in my ears. That bomb took the lives of four young girls, including my friend and playmate, Denise McNair. The crime was calculated to suck the hope out of young lives, bury their aspirations. But those fears were not propelled forward, those terrorists failed.[10]
– Condoleezza Rice, Commencement 2004, Vanderbilt University, May 13, 2004
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2) it is also said from a nieghbor that at a young age she questions current events and why blacks were treated different than whites . She also said that the republicans were the only ones that let her father vote , not the dems , hence her reason for being a repub .
3) i would vote condi over hillary , i think a lot of people would . Actually i never really cared for her , until i read some of her policies, also she performed with yoyou ma ( classy ) ... It is also a smart move on the repubs part ,.
I never really cared for condi , but if they put her against obama , it is going to get real interesting . Reply to this
5/17/2008 3:48 AM
lavender wrote:
lioness, gurl, you are like me because this whole election process is strange and very unusual to this political outsider. I like John Edwards as B.O.'s running mate, but I have read about this country's sordid and evil past to know something sinister still may occur in 2008. I wouldn't vote for Rice or Clinton on a "dog catcher" ticket. The devil holds all the cards in politics and that's why I am not moved by the process at all. Fortunately for me, I'm voting regardless of who the candidates are on the tickets. Although I have a weird/odd feeling about this election, something is still not right but I guess we just have to wait and see,huh? I really hope Obama is not being used to cause confusion and mayhem in our lives because that would be so deceitful for him to do this to a supportive community. Reply to this
5/15/2008 10:04 PM
Nia wrote:
Peaches: I do agree with you about Hillary humbling herself to second place. The question is will she?
I don't know about Hilary,she is too polarizing. I was thinking if it has to be a woman, what about the Senator from Missouri. Reply to this
5/16/2008 5:32 AM
Peaches wrote:
I don't know too much about the woman Senator from Missouri, but it will definitely be interesting to see who Obama taps for his #2. Reply to this
5/16/2008 5:59 AM
Strategist wrote:
Peaches, the woman Senator from Missouri can not capture the votes of a Hillary Clinton. You have to look at more than gender in political strategy. You just can't put someone on your ticket because they are female and call it a day, they have to have much more to offer and Hillary is the strongest person for VP on the democratic ticket right now. She can bring Obama the Latino vote because he has the black vote tied up and Hillary can also bring over a lot of white voters. Reply to this
5/15/2008 10:09 PM
SouthernGirl77 wrote:
so half dollar is going to make a deal with satan? hmm, may want to re-think that one.
is all this tupac and biggie talk a prelude for something? hmm... Reply to this
5/16/2008 5:31 AM
cat4everrr wrote:
got dayummm. at first i thought the talk of myra having an inside on the happenings of dc was bull but know i'm seriously starting to wonder if shes got a full scope lifestlye polygraph...wowzer Reply to this
5/16/2008 5:56 AM
Spy-Fi wrote:
In terms of this site and the owner, never underestimate, I think that has been proven. It's not unusual for media outlets to have insiders in D.C., this site happens to cover the entire spectrum from entertainment, sports, espionage and politics. Nothing should surprise you about this site and the accurate information they offer. If the information wasn't accurate, I doubt that Federal agencies would be on here compiling it to break cases. Reply to this
5/16/2008 10:54 AM
alikat wrote:
I have to admit this for perhaps the millionth time...I love this freakin' site, PR is no joke!!!
I tripped out when reading the Tupac story and Mayra actually giving the victims name.
Didn't know her personally, but was very close to someone that knew and hung out with her when Ayanna still lived in Brooklyn.
Disclaimer: NO ONE deserves to be assaulted, brutalized or raped.
with that being said... From what I was told, she was an interesting character to say the very least.
Giving someone (Tupac)oral sex in the middle of the dance floor, was probably not the smartest thing she could've done... Reply to this
5/16/2008 11:00 AM
PinkSilk wrote:
I see Antoin "Tony" Rezko made it to the front page. I have a feeling we will start hearing more and more about this guy and other skeletons. Reply to this
5/16/2008 12:55 PM
Hidoll wrote:
@ Hey Pinkslip, this man is going to mess with the wrong people and he himself may end up being skeletons Reply to this
5/18/2008 10:54 AM
PinkSilk wrote:
true, true. This guy seems like a character. I kept hearing about him, so I starting doing my own little homemade research on him.
1.He was facing some kind of charges in Chicago becuase he was a slumlord who turned off the heat of his residents who were poor African-Americans when he did the land deal with Obama, who says that he didn't know that Rezko was under investigation.
2. The city of Chicago has some sort of minority business program that helps Blacks own companies, so word is that Rezko would find Black people to say that they own the company, such as Jabir Herbert Muhammad of the Nation of Islam, but Rezko would actually run the company. The Black business owners are basically a front.
3. This Levine guy PR mentioned on the frontpage seems like a character as well. He claims that a lot of the Rezko deals were made at some place called the "Purple Hotel", complete with loads of cocaine and meth. Levine also says that the parties were all male. oh, and the Purple Hotel is supposed to be featured in the movie Casino
..I was thinking that Rezko will have to start ratting people out to save himself, on some Nino Brown type of thing, but then I read that his defense team is going to try and portray Levine as a delusional cokehead who can't remember anything. Reply to this
5/16/2008 11:28 AM
Shortness wrote:
Well, well, well MYRA you have truly outdone yourself this time. I do believe you are on to something. I knew there was something else to this story everything being said just didnt seem right about all the rumors going around about the Tupac murder. Damn girl you are good!!!!!!!! Reply to this
5/16/2008 11:40 AM
poppy wrote:
WOW, didn't know fixer Rezko was behind Harold Washington's campaign in Chicago. I don't care what anyone says, that man was assassinated Reply to this
5/16/2008 11:58 AM
Hidoll wrote:
RIO DE JANEIRO (Reuters) - Brazilian singing star Caetano Veloso defended disgraced footballer Ronaldo at a show in Rio de Janeiro, saying the AC Milan striker did not have to apologize to anyone over his embarrassing encounter with three transvestites in a Rio motel.
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At the concert in Rio on Thursday night, Veloso, one of Brazil's most renowned musicians and an influential figure in his home country, played a rarely-performed 1982 song "Three Transvestites." He then followed up by praising Ronaldo.
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"Ronaldo was right when he said he didn't want to pay because he was being threatened. This man is a star."
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5/16/2008 12:58 PM
Secret wrote:
Terrence Dean's book was such a waste of money and a great big disappointment. This book reads like a gay romance novel. This is not a tell all he never mentioned who was on the down low in hip hop. He continues, I see to hide in hip hop he said nothing that has not already been said. I mean if I knew it was going to be blind items from the 80's; I would not have bothered buying the book. While I have nothing against gay men. I hate these so call down low brothers acting like they are some type of victim. And what is the point of the down low label. down low=gay, gay=down low there is absolutely no difference Terrence mmmk. Homosexuality is the act of having sex with the same sex. It has nothing to do with being a coward, creeping around with men nor lying and fronting with women. Down low just means not admitting that you are gay Coining a new phrase does not make you any less gay. Terrence continues to protect a way of life that is detrimental to the black race. It is so sad and selfish what these gay men are doing. The Gay men that I know are true men they don't hide who they are they don't play games with women they live their lives accepting who they are. Being gay never stops a man from being a man. This book is not what it proclaims to be. Too bad I thought someone was about to the blow these GAY men out of the water. NOT Reply to this
5/16/2008 1:14 PM
secret wrote:
Wow what a bunch of defeatist on this page. Excuse me Lobbyist are you saying black people are dumb and don't know anything about politics? How insulting as if you are the only black person informed about Politics. I'm voting for Obama because he is the right man for the job. He's young, he's poised ,he's works well under pressure, willing to be diplomatic, and very intelligent. Its obvious you are thinking with your emotions because it is quite arrogant of you to think that you know whats on the minds of all black people. You need to get your mind right. Reply to this
5/16/2008 3:20 PM
Lobbyist wrote:
My mind is right, that's why I'm highly successful, intelligent and prominent. Where did I say black people are dumb? Please copy and paste. Stop taking my words out context and putting words in my mouth. I simply said that one poster didn't seem to understand the inner workings of politics and many races of people don't understand politics up close and personal. As for a defeatist attitude, people are entitled to their opinion and I still stand by mine: I will vote for Obama but White America will not vote for a black man to lead this country, they are resistant to change. I do not like John McCain and would never vote for him. Reply to this
5/16/2008 2:17 PMShark wrote:
I agree...because everyone knows that white people in general are afraid of an intelligent black man. These is the real reason that whites are not voting for him... Face facts, from the start all political know it alls believed that Hillary had won the election without casting the first vote... Face it, the lady in the pant suits is making her exit stage right... Reply to this
The fact that Obama is winning the primary in popular votes as well as in delegates is proof positive that Whites are voting for him. As someone mentioned above, Blacks make up about 12% of the population and only a portion vote. Therefore, if Whites were not voting for him he wouldn't be winning. Not to mention, Hillary has had a larger percentage of the Hispanic vote. So please explain to me who is voting for Obama, if Whites in general are scared of an intelligent Black man in the whitehouse? Reply to this
5/16/2008 2:52 PMShark wrote:
@ Severyn No need to get upset... I was referring to the lopsided vote in WV and soon to be KY... I agree with you... but there are some that will not vote for Barack.. For instances The Gov. of Penn, stated that some in his state are not ready to vote for a black man... That seem to be true in WV as well. Also I stated (in general) not all white people will not vote for Barack... And if white people were not afraid of intelligent black men then why are there not more Blacks CEO's? just saying Reply to this
5/16/2008 7:49 PM
Goddiva wrote:
Hey P.R fam *waving at everyone* after reading comments and posting some of my own regarding Nicariah (Nick/Mariah) something else dawned on me; Eminem put her out there as a psychotic needy bitch in one of his songs (not to mention other disses) and as I was driving today for some reason those lyrics from his song Superman came to mind:
Am I too nice? buy you ice, Bitch if you died, wouldn't buy you life, What you tryin to be, my new wife? What you Mariah? fly through twice, But I do know one thing though, Bitches they come, they go, Saturday through sunday monday, Monday through sunday yo, Maybe i'll love you one day, Maybe we'll someday grow, Till then just sit your drunk ass on that fuckin runway hoe... Am I too nice? buy you ice, Bitch if you died, wouldn't buy you life, What you tryin to be, my new wife? What you Mariah? fly through twice, But I do know one thing though, Bitches they come, they go, Saturday through sunday monday, Monday through sunday yo, Maybe i'll love you one day, Maybe we'll someday grow, Till then just sit your drunk ass on that fuckin runway hoe...
Hmm, makes MiMi sound rather desperate/clingy doesn't it? Apparently for all the whining about her marriage to Tommy Motola she's been trying to get back down that aisle for a while. Seems like for all of her attractiveness dudes don't wanna make that permanent. Hell Latin singer Luis Miguel shook her ass like a dirty rug to get away........Nick save yo' self, run nigga run Reply to this
5/17/2008 4:40 AM
fiziwhoa wrote:
Their is a lot of talk about Haitian Jack, one must always remember what happened to the "Original 50 Cent". History has a tendency of repeating itself! Rumors persisting of him being an informant will do him no justice in the not so distance future.
You can't be a gangsta and a snitch at the same time. It's a bit like Frank Lucas "American Gangsta", claiming to be the ultimate gangsta and then being the worlds most notorious informant that has ever lived.
After giving lengthy sentences to everyone associated with him, and now living under the witness protection programme, writing a book, attracting fame and attention he fails to realise that real gangsta's don't live under the Witness Protection Programme and look for celebrity status at the same time!
I could think of 10 gangsta's in America who would've deserved that title of American Gangsta, Frank Lucas and Nicky Barnes wouldn't have made it in top 100. However, if it was to be re-titled American Snitch, they would've made it into the top 5!
N.B To be born a gangsta, is to die a gangsta, not a F#@k!ng snitch!
If you can't do the time, don't do the crime! Reply to this
5/17/2008 2:05 PM
Hidoll wrote:
Is Soul Train in the house? if so (hi) and where's Ray Parker Jr is he as arrogant as they say he is? Reply to this
5/17/2008 4:52 PM
Soul Train wrote:
I will never forget, remember SOUL newspaper back in the day, they had an article with a black woman who said Ray struck her because she told him he was attractive and he responded by saying, he wasn't in to women at the time, they argued and she said she got hit. The story disappeared. He would marry a white woman and is the father of 4 sons. He passed on producing and writing songs for Whitney's debut album because he didn't think she would make it, he is now kicking himself in the head, the songwriters on that album made a mint. He definitely could not be a talent scout. Heard he didn't like anyone in his radio band to get more attention than him or they would get replaced. Was a millionaire at 18, drove a benz his senior year in high school because of guitar session work. Was set for life financially through an investment guru at 21. Reply to this
5/17/2008 2:28 PM
penn wrote:
Nick got a Maserati, nice car. _ I can see Rihanna acting. _Charles Barkley and friends have serious gambling addictions. Murdoch is a mogul. _Everybody is going down b/c of Spitzer. I don't think Flo's side/story will ever be told. _I am so tired of seeing Jackie in those bedazzled jeans. Reply to this
5/18/2008 11:41 AM
Black Elite wrote:
Strategist and Lobbyist shout out. I understand exactly what you mean. Blacks can't work together because of bullshit or there would be black mergers to create a super power in business. White men don't have to like each other but they will come together to make money. Blacks can't seem to do that. If team Obama hooks up with Hillary, the bullshit will have to be put aside by Obama to create a successful ticket that can challenge McCain and Condeleeza. Black posters on another board are saying, if he teams up with Hillary they will no longer support him. Stupid, put the bs aside to get Obama in the White House, if that's what it takes, that's what it takes or would you rather see McCain win because you pulled your support. Stupid. I read an article with Brandy who wished she would have put the pettiness aside when she worked with Monica on that record the boy is mine. Because she didn't she missed out on making a lot of money from touring off that hit record, she said she lost out on big money because she couldn't put the bullshit aside. This is the real reason we don't have one black business merger in the U.S, because blacks can't put bullshit and bickering aside and work together to create a successful conglomerate. Reply to this
5/18/2008 12:21 PM
Black Elite wrote:
Thank you, like another poster said, Blacks take everything too personal, now if someone calls you a racist term, you are supposed to get mad but this is politics, the gloves come off. They act like, Hillary dogged Obama, we want support him if she gets on the ticket, conservatives must be laughing so hard at these black fools, their stomachs are aching. To win, you have to put bullshit aside, even if you don't like each other, if teaming up is going to get you in the white house, go for it! I can't even discuss politics with Blacks, they get so damned emotional over Obama and don't really understand the back end of politics which is also evident from a few posters in here. SMH. Big ups to sheknows, lobbyist and strategist, you understand. Reply to this
5/18/2008 12:42 PM
secret wrote:
Yea whatever, you bow down Negro's continue to think we need the Clinton's, the Clinton's let black people know just how she/they feel about black people. Obama didn't need Hillary's help up until this point and at what point does Hillary concede that her race is over and bow out graciously oh too late. She's has no problem trying to destroy Obama. I don't see Hillary trying to work together. He has other options besides Hillary for a running mate. Hillary should be trying to bring the party together until she makes that kind of move, Obama shouldn't have to do anything. He's the winner here people, he's the one who ran a hell of a campaign why in the hell should he HAVE to choose Hillary, he doesn't need Hillary. Reply to this
5/18/2008 2:24 PM
Black Elite wrote:
bow down, why are we bowing down, perfect example of Blacks not being familiar with how campaigns and politics are run. See how emotional you are over this. I'm voting for Obama but he will not make it easier for Blacks because he is Black, if he wins. The establishment will not let him. Reply to this
5/18/2008 4:03 PMtrublu wrote:
There are plenty of so-called feminist white women who truly believe that Obama took their chance of having the first woman president. They also claim that they will vote for McCain or worse, not vote at all if Obama get the nomination ( just go to any feminist blogs). So, blacks are not the only ones talking nonsense.In their twisted view of things, the women's right to ascend to the White House takes preference over a black man's struggle to do the same. Reply to this
5/18/2008 4:24 PMtrublu wrote:
If Obama is looking to get the Hispanic vote then he will go with Bill Richardson. For the white votes then maybe Jim Webb. Whoever he picks, I doubt very much it will be Hillary. Just my opinion. Reply to this
5/18/2008 4:40 PM
Guy wrote:
Maybe you should check out PR's updated front page, the Washington Post confirmed what PR reported Friday. Obama/Clinton camps are in talks. Reply to this
5/18/2008 5:04 PMtrublu wrote:
The article has to do with fund raising. Both Hillary and Obama agreed that they want their party to have more money for November no matter who becomes the nominee. The newly created Democratic White House Victory Fund will benefit whoever wins the nomination. This just announced last Wednesday. Reply to this
The Jacksons merit their own chapter in the annals of dysfunction.
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It's funny how once upon a time people thought of The Jackson like they were the royal family. Now 30+yrs later they're the most dysfunction family around.
I still say 80% of it is Joe's fault for having a abusive way of raising them and Ms. Kathrine is 20% to blame for standing by allowing it to happen. The reason I say 20% for her is because she comes from a time when women had to let the husband rule the roost and have the upper hand. Not to mention she looked the other way all while he was out creeping
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Hidoll, girl, I agree with you and don't forget Ms. Kate, she let him act a dang fool because she was so trying to be the perfect wife. I would have put a skillet upside that head for acting a fool with me and beating my children like that but I will say this, he did recognize their talent and pushed them to be a dynamic singing group! He did do that right!
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Happy Friday SouthnDiva
Yeah I would have gone upside his abusive cheating head azz 2.
And if he even thought about trying to hit me back I'd have him arrested
The ONLY upside about Joe Jackson is that he pushed them to be a dynamic singing group. And even though they each have their share of issues everyone loved and admired The Jackson 5 And a few of the others had a little somethin somethin going for a minute and I do mean a minute. Jermaine(Let's Get Serious) Rebbie I can't remember that trainwreck song she made,LaToya( she's just a trainwreck,but she can't help it) and of course baby sister Ms. Janet is a DIVA
The only two talented Jackson who's loved by all is Micheal & Janet
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Rebbie's trainwreck was Centipede! You are too much HiDoll! LOL!
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Hold up now..that was my jam !
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Right on point, Hidoll.
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Good 2 c u
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Trying to keep my head up and do right.Always makes me happy to hear you.
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I haven't figured out yet who "Edwin" is.. I have a list of the others from Dean's book.
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Please..... share, because this dude is driving me crazy with the undercover names.
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I'm not buying the book... I'm not into what dude is banging which other dude, but I'll say this; if your facts are real, then why not just blast those names out on front street?
Say what you want to about Superhead, but she at least came out with the info and still has yet to be sued over her books... Don't count Tigger, that mess started on the radio, and who knows where that crap is at right now, but the others in the books, nobody has said a word...
The guessing game is B.I.'s not "tell alls"
Just my two cents
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Tupac rapped briefly about Haitian Jack on one of them songs from his "Makavelli" album. I used to be a big rap head...Haitian Jack was reportedly Bad News in the Hip Hop community. Folks were saying that he had set Tupac up.I remember when their was a lot of Buzz about Haitian Jack, when Tupac was killed.Shortly after Tupac was murdered the rumors began to fly that he wasn't really dead,that he was in the Bahamas,and that he was part of a government program called MK-Ultra??? It was also rumors that he Tupac was working with the feds. There was some really strange things surrounding his death...
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Project MK-Ultra was an secret mind control program sponsered by the CIA.They used various experiments,some with the drug LCD.Alot of this came during the much slept on Church Commitee hearings in 1975,which brought to light the intelligence communties covert activities.Some key people who had knowledge of various covert,"black op" activities mysteriously "died" of during this key time.Example: Sam Giancana
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correct ,also mk ultra aka monarch program , which disney was supposedly apart of .... monarch usually have butterfly tattoos ... some people who are supposedly mk ultra slaves were....
marilyn monroe
anna nicole
britney
maddonna
there are even books written by former mk ultra slaves , one who said she was dick cheney's slave ( u can google this ) ... supposedly dick hunted his slaves ...
now nubian , have u heard of gang stalking , a famous black writer claims this happened to her , read her account here : Gloria Naylor. “1996″.. she wrote brewster place ,,, this will blow your mind
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Hey Lioness, You are on it. Don't forget " The King" Elvis. The biggest stars are mostly parts of it. They say Mariah however most of the web pages about her have disappeared?
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I think you'll find this link very interesting.....
http://www.illuminatiarchives.org/mind-control/interview-with-cia-mk-ultra-slave/
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"now nubian,have u heard of gang stalking"
Actually I haven't heard of it.But I've dig this tidbit up....
http://www.gangstalkingworld.com/United/index.php/Main/GS101
Btw thanks for the tip!!
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Hey Nubian, You too are on it. I knew about Mk-Ultra for about 3 years or so... It's something else isn't it. Oh I don't want to get to deep. But, I could go on...
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Check out these links...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MK_ULTRA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Committee
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Good info cuz. Though I can't see Pac in MK-Ultra with Panther running through his veins, I CAN see Haitian Jack as being a plant and government informant designed to divide and conquer, you know, "we'll let you slang that shit if you just get us pac". Here's a test for you Nubian: I see Haitian Jack as the hip hop John Ali.
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"I see Haitian Jack as the hip hop John Ali"
Ahh yes "The Judas Factor" hip hop style.The thirty pieces of silver technique is still effective,especially in the black community,sigh.
The day Tupac was born his name was on the FBI file.With Pac's black panther background combined with his growing mass appeal from his rap & movie roles there is no doubt the FEDS had him under surveillance. Like Cokely said about the intelligence community determining who could be a threat....
"intentions + capability=threat"
Keep in mind rap music was probably the last vehicle of uncensored free speech for the conscious blackman & woman that the Gov't didn't control.
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No doubt. I've measured people up with that equation for at least the last 5 years - never let me down yet. On the proactive side, that equation gives you two highy effective means to REDUCE the threat of an opposing force (person, institution, whatever): reduce their capability or CHANGE their intentions...
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I'm a big Tupac fan, but I'd never heard the backstory behind that rape situation. That was all the way messed up. Especially considering he was warned twice. SMH. I wish I could take Nikki Giovanni's class on his writings.
PR has got me so addicted to fixer culture! It's hard to believe somebody's crochety grandpa was a master fixer. He's clearly more dangerous than today's fixers in that he accomplished all that he did without the computers or high tech gadgets of today. Fascinating!
Loved how Eartha Kitt handled Miss Ross. Miss Ross would have prob cursed her out if it were the other way around, but Kitty Kat Eartha handled that with class.
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Peaches, rent the film Munich, papa and his son are throughout the film, he was fascinating, you will be transfixed when he's on screen.
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He had a son in that life, too? Wow. Okay, Munich & Cover are on my to-find list this weekend. (Ya know, it's bad enough I'm on this site all the time, but now when I'm not, I'm watching a movie or reading book recommended by this site!
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hi paris
i never wanted to see that movie , but i watched it late last year , and that blew my mind ... that fixer was no joke . erics character , was very lucky in the end .
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I agree Peaches, maybe she was trying to teach them something.
I thnk Eartha might not feel like she's beautiful because of the things she went through when she was growing up.
She was always mistreated by both race the whites didnt like her because she was too black and the blacks didn't accept her because she was too light. She said her mother's boyfriend called her "That Yella Gal" when Ms. Eartha was growing up it was hard for her,her mom and her baby sister. She said when they found a place to stay(because they were always moving around) she said that the black family they stayed with didn't want her in the house because she was too light and they thought it might cause problems. So they told her mother they didn't want that yella gal in the house she had to sleep on the porch while her mother and sister slept in the house. So maybe when Diana Ross said what she said to her the painful memories of being called ugly names came back and she felt like that yella gal and thats why she said I'm not half as beautiful as you walking out icy and cold. As to say if only you ladies knew
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Eartha Kitt is so beautiful to me. Especially in that time period, she had that pin-up glam look. But you're right, you never know what's going on behind the smile. My pastor used to say, You see my glory, but you don't know my story.
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Happy Friday Peaches & !1da
I have always thought Eartha Kitt was beautiful too in the 70's she, Freida Payne and someone else who's name I can't think of were the 3 most beautiful women back then. And Ms. Eartha Mae Kitt has always had a body on her, she's damn near 80 and she still has a body that can put some of these skinny azz models to shame with or without panties MARCUS.
!1da my second thought was the same as yours Ms.Diana "ALL ATTENTION ON ME" Ross just had to say something and then what she said would have ticked me off too.
I know she though she meant well but somethings you have to think before you speak,you might think your saying something nice but it comes out rude or offensive.
Oh and for the record Diana Ross looks nothing like Eartha Kitt so whomever told her did lied.
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Hidoll, happy Friday fam, I agree with everything, Ross was trying to take the spotlight with her stupid question. Miss Eartha still ain't no joke and because of that white guy who founded Revlon, he gave her great investment tips and she owns some of his company stock. Read her book, PR did excerpts, her mother abandonded her and a sibling for a man. The last sight she saw of he mom was walking off in the sunset with her back turned with this man, never saw her since. The man refused to take Eartha because she was to light and he refused the other kid to. Eartha went through hell, relatives refused them shelter when they she was traveling on a dirt road with her mom and sister, the only person that gave them shelter was a blind woman who couldn't see Eartha's complexion. Confessions Of A Sex Kitten is a must have, order it today.
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Happy Friday Soul Train
I have Confessions Of A Sex Kitten I bought it yrs ago. Good Book I recommend it highly
Ms. Eartha was treated like dirt, I don't want to give away to much of what's in the book but I remember about the blind lady letting taking them in and before that how they was from one place to the other, sleeping in barns and sheds. Yrs ago I saw a special on Eartha Kitt I think it was on PBS anyway she was with a camera crew they were in a car, she went back to where she grew up they stop by the house it may have been the blind lady house while there some man came to the car and when she told him she was Eartha Mae(I don't think he still knew who she was and I think he called her sister) but he was acting like he was all glad to see her hugging her Eartha was big about it she hugged him back and smiled.
And when they was leaving Ms. Earth said her goodbyes, as they drove away you could tell it was hurtful memories she looked so sad she had gotten quiet, then she said how phoney of a greeting that was that he's no more related to her then the man in the moon. I was sad because she looked like she was about to cry
Diana Ross has been spoiled by Barry for so long she may have been trying to rub it me Eartha's face and making like Ms. Eartha should feel grateful people think she looks like her(I don't see it) but Diana Ross always thought she looked like another legend enough like her to play her Ms. Josephine Baker. So she just think she looks like whomever she wants when the mood strikes her I guess. Diana Ross looks like Diana Ross
I know she must to have felt like she could use a big winter coat when Ms. Eartha made her icy exit
Wonder how Diana Ross would react if a up and coming young girl said to her that people think she looks and sings like her?
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I guess I could see a passing resemblance due to the fact that they both had those square jaws. One things for sure, Eartha's uncoventional, feminine style of singing paved the way for Diana's voice to grace pop radio in the 60s.
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Hi Poppy,
how are you? paved the way is right.So if anything the first words out of Diana's mouth should have been how great is ws to meet her and a thanks for paving the way.
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Hey Hidoll, I'm good, thanks 4 asking. Well at least Diana said something to Eartha, I've heard she's so in awe of Barbra Streisand that she's scared to say anything in her presence, I'm like why? They're both alike if u ask me.
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Poppy, maybe it's a vibe you know how you can get a vibe from someone?
I have gotten plenty of vibes from people and I have mostly being right about the vibes
Poppy girl what are you doing this weekN?
It's easy since I don't have kids if I'm not hanging out with my friends I'm being you know lazy.
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Red velvet cake is my favorite! U betta save me a slice!
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Poppy, you big slice is waiting for ya with a cream cheese icing and pecan topping
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You know, I read it another way. I read it as Eartha was being sarcastic because Diana was trying to steal some of her thunder.
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Loving the info on the front page! Great job Myra and Paris, you guys keep us in the "know!"
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I must admit, I agree with the info on the front page about Obama, if he wants to win, he will need Hillary and not Edwards, especially if McCain chooses Condi.
McCain and Condi on the same ticket would be a sure win if Obama doesnt swallow his pride and add Hillary to his ticket.
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See I kinda see as would Hillary swallow HER pride and accept an offer to be VP. It's Hilary's pride that still has her in there now. I think they would be a dream ticket together, but will she humble herself to take second place.
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I really dont think she will be the problem. If you remember during the debate each was asked would they invite the other to run with them as vice, Hillary never got a chance to answer. She looked over at him and he had already started answering, he wont need her to add him because he will be president. At that point, she decided not to answer. So he will need to check himself and understand that he cant win it alone.
Hell, I'm not a Republican but might vote McCain/Condi just on his reaction and response to that question alone.
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I respectfully disagree, Hilary is too polarizing, especially outside of the democratic party. I don't see her accepting anyway. Hilary is what 60, basically if she does run for VP and there is a two term presidency her next shot at running for president will be in 8 years at 68 after running under someone she clearly underestimated as a threat to her candidacy. She would be better off if a Republican was in office for the next 4 years and she could run again at 64. I am sorry, but a 68 female president is a hard sell, look at how people are speaking of McCain's age.
I have always thought that John Edwards would be the perfect VP for him, he needs a southern white male on his ticket, plus, I really like John Edwards. I think that having Rice run for VP would be great for Obama, because then there would not be the wild card issue of race in the election.
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Hey Ida, according to Washington insiders, if Obama really wants the White House, Hillary is the strongest candidate to help him win it right now! I heard also that Michelle Obama is holding him back from going with Hillary, pointing him in Edwards' direction which is understandable because of the personal attacks by Hillary but sometimes you have to let the personal stuff go, especially in politics if you want the white house and work together. John Edwards is not the perfect candidate in terms of votes for Obama, he will sink him. I realize you like Edwards but in this case he will hold Obama back and out of the White House. Bottom line.
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Great points strat, and all this talk of polarizing is bull, who is she polarizing, blacks? Blacks only make up 12 percent of the population and fewer than half of that amount vote. Even if she does polarize, Obama can pick up those black votes she polarized.
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Nice points Strategist and Lobbyist. If Obama wants to win, he will have to bring in Hillary. She can bring in the big states, he can't. Edwards will not bring in votes for Obama.
They have to be strategic and practical about this.
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Exactly, posters like Poppy don't understand the dynamics of politics and make decisions with emotions like H-Bomb pointed out. I think Poppy even criticized blacks once before for supporting Hillary and asked how can Oprah still associate with Maya Angelou since she is supporting Hillary which is just stupid because everyone has a right to vote for who they want to. I guess all blacks are supposed to think and vote alike, put all their eggs in one basket, a one dimensional race when whites can vote republican and democrat and still be the best of friends and agree to disagree. Blacks are way too emotional over this and are not thinking from a strategic viewpoint. Hillary can bring in big states and the Latino vote which Obama lacks. If running with her can get him to the white house, why not. Should he just sit on the sidelines with his lips pouted out, mad at something she said and lose with Edwards, hell no! Think with your mind and not your emotions.
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It really is about strategy, and planning to win versus getting caught up in emotions. I like some of the things Ron Paul says about the Federal Reserve System, and amazed at how the same things he is saying are the ideas that JFK was putting into place when he was killed. But at the end of the day, how practical and strategic would a vote for Ron Paul be right now? You have to vote with a plan.
Lobbyist, I was wondering if you could shed some light on the MI/Florida votes. Some say if they were included, Hillary would be the frontrunner? But Obama doesn't want them counted?
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Just popping in for a minute. Oh how I would love to live in the matrix that is Panache ... but duty calls.
As noted by the below sited 2006 Time Magazine article Hilary is polarizing not to blacks but those independents and republicans who would vote for Obama. Now, if it is as others have posted here than after all of the mud slinging that goes on in the champaign then everyone gets behind the democratic nomination then there really should be no problem with Obama and the democratic base, should there.
Also, Hilary is not as strong as she was previously with the Latino vote after firing her Latina campaign manager and disavowing Governor Richards for supporting Obama.
I won't get into who has been more emotional and pouting in this race between Hilary and Obama, but I will say that I believe that Obama is a very intellectual and intelligent person and if he is putting together a ticket he is looking at if purely from a logical standpoint.
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Most Americans agree that Hillary Clinton is intelligent (81%) and that she's politically moderate (67%). She's the Democratic nominee they'd support the most if she runs for President (leading the field with 46%, just ahead of Al Gore's 41). And a majority (53%) agree that she makes a generally favorable impression. They don't agree on much else.
As reported in this week's magazine, red and blue America have strongly divergent views on Hillary. (The complete TIME poll — which will be available on time.com on Monday — shows just how far apart these views are.) It's as though their television sets broadcast two entirely different versions of the evening news. In Blue America, they're watching a Lifetime movie about the country's first female President. In Red America, they're watching Godzilla. In one America, she's smart, committed, likable, with strong values and empathy for people like them, and in the other she's an ambitious, callous appeaser. Republicans also think she's a "divider and not a uniter" (52%). Just going by the numbers, the Republicans have a point.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1229053,00.html
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Kudos to Michelle, don't do it Obama, don't trust her!
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You can't trust anyone in politics. So trust should not be an issue, he can't even trust John Edwards. In Washington, there are only two kinds on Capitol Hill, allies and enemies. To win the White House, personal feelings are put aside, so what she slung mud, that's how politics are played. Obama will not be able to trust any running mate and can he be trusted since his voting record is spotty and his entire cabinet will more than likely be white. A lot of blacks seem to be voting on race and emotion when they are not researching facts, Obama cannot trust anyone and Edwards will do him in just as fast. Would you feel better if he put his trust in a white man like Edwards, lol.
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"A lot of blacks seem to be voting on race and emotion when they are not researching facts"
- I agree H-Bomb. I can barely have conversations with the women in my family about Obama because they get so irate and emotional about him.
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i think people don't give blacks enough credit. most blacks who are voting for obama know that he will be the president of the USA and NOT the president of black america.
so what if the majority of his cabinet is white?
most people who are voting for obama, regardless of ethnicity, vote for him because they see the importance of a unified nation. no house can continue to stand divided.
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I agree with Sandra Rose on one comment, Obama will not win the presidency over a white man, point blank, period, especially if Condi Rice is along for the ride with McCain because I heard George W. and Daddy Bush (a president and a former president) are pushing for her inclusion on the ticket. Obama's best chance to win, add Hillary to the ticket to make up slack with Latino's, on the fence whites and big states. I disagree, most blacks are voting for Obama because he is black and they admit as much. He can talk about change all day and night but he better back up his White House run with someone on his ticket who can help him. We recently did a Capitol survey about this and a very high percentage of blacks are voting because he is black.
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Hmmmm, I remember not so long ago how several people on this board were saying that Obama would not win the democratic nomination, how Hilary was going to blow him out of the water with all of her intelligence gathering and mud slinging, and how a black man would never win over a white woman period ... because of course he is still a black man.
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I admit, good point. Hope the brotha goes all the way. We are just having a roundtable discussion that brings out different opinions. Tipping my hat.
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...and most whites who are voting for hillary vote for her because she is white.
see cullard folks ain't the one that do this...
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Yeah, I feel u H-bomb, slinging mud IS the game of politics, but Hilary not only slung mud she dragged the man through it. Michelle's got to have good reason for swaying himm away from her. Frankly, I think too much damage has been done for him just to fall back and invite her even in politcs, but who knows.
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"A lot of blacks seem to be voting on race and emotion when they are not researching facts, Obama cannot trust anyone and Edwards will do him in just as fast.
LOL,hell its not just blacks there are plenty of unsophisticated white folks voting with their emotions & fears as well.The rethuglicans are good at diverting the attention of legitimate issues and turning it into a fear campaign using coded buzz words like,"liberal","moral","welfare","patriotism","jeremiah wright",etc etc.Its all a pyschological game.Btw Billary has mastered this game as well.she claims she has "experience" to fix the economy but her hubby was all for NAFTA,which once again sold out the middle class.Puhleeze!!
Listen to these West Va. hicks talk about Obama....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-q4MDQ0cDI
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That video is amazing. That's what I've been saying, there is a lot of racism and sexism throughout this campaign.
Listen to these sexist hecklers telling Hillary to "iron my shirt"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjS8_WWhjao
Check out these sexist "bros before hoes" t-shirts that are being sold:
http://www.choiceshirts.com/item/PL-90371A/
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@i1da:
Imma Holla cuz I hear you! having Hillary as VP would the biggest mistake Obama makes. Oh, too much shit has been said and done! Hillary is too divisive, her sense of entitlement is so overwhelming you can see her foaming at the mouth to win at any cost. I think she's more interested in winning for the sake of winning another ego boost that she's not really thinking of the job at hand and what this country need and the type of person needed to represent it. She keeps talking about this "experience" she has, when was she ever president? standing by her man and waving for the cameras makes her more president worthy? hell let's not forget Bush claimed experience too and is the son of former president. She's jeopardizing the democratic party with her and her husbands tactics. Having Hillary as VP to me is just for the sake of making history it won't be because its the best thing for the country.
And further more 'Blow Job' Bill will be there too if she was to be VP. Between Hillary and Bill bumping heads on how shit is to supposed to be done and Barack having to remind them both that HE'S president we'd be in the same damn mess we're in now. Besides Michelle Obama has already said 'HELL TO THE NAH' regarding Hillary riding VP. Let Hilary's shabby dressing ass research a decent stylist I say with them damn elmer fudd type pantsuits.....ewwww
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good morning everyone !!!!!
( sorry for any typos below)
hillary , will do him in . anyway it is his fate , i really feel he is a sacrifical lamb in this situation .... Any widesweeping change , needs control of the army or a private army ... privitization of the miltary forces is going on now , private contracters ..,.. I am sure myra knows this as see features contract killers / fixers on this site alot ...
Yes obama is a sacrificial lamb . If he is going to be in this position , he better not take john edwards , he needs a smart money man , not hillary who will might even try to create scandal during his term to push for impeachment . He needs a money man on the level of bloomberg , money talks and makes the rest shut up .
although obamas initial strategy for gaining money was smart ( even if taken from dean's playbook ) anyone can do it now , so power can easily switch with the technology herd , with a click of the mouse ...
I like michelle , but i hope she knows they are gunning for her tough ...
Rice , is impressive , her background is interesting , being that she had personal struggles and tragedies rooted in the civil rights era is formidable , in our struggle ... But the ? is who is she really , who are all these people really ???
actually none of them work for me if they keep pressuring china , i think none of them know how to deal in china , because they never went to live or spend time with the people to understand what really is the situation ... There are many faults in condis , trasformational diplomacy policy , starting with the privileged diplomats they really don't know what is going on in the countries they are in , they are seperate , driving their white suvs and living in private compoounds , this is not the way .....
also renouncing wright was not smart on Obamas part ... I for one belive in wright , and feel the black church is relevant as the catholic church , and i do not think he is a buffoon (even though we know what they really wanted to call him ) if he denounced wright , then why not go back to barry instead of barack
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Condoleeza was raised in the heart of the civil rights struggle but she has said repeatedly that it did not affect her. She nor her family participated in any protests . She even said that although she grew up down the street from Denise McNair she didn't know her that well. I went to college there and I am amazed that anyone could live in that city and not feel the pain that came from that struggle. There's being sheltered and then there's just plain living in denial.
Now I'm not knocking the sister, I appreciate all that she has accomplished but I've also noticed that successful Black people in this country who attempt to distance themselves from Black people in this country seem to fall hard. The very people they wanted to be identified with seem to be gunning for them... Can we say OJ and Barry Bonds just to name two.
If Condi makes that ticket look out. Besides McCain needs a more conservative running mate because the right wing are not singing his praises.
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hi liigating ,
it is stated on wiki ( ok maybe not so reliable, also can be updated )
1) that her "friend " Denise was killed in the bombing of the 16th street baptist church , quote
"I remember the bombing of that Sunday School at 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham in 1963. I did not see it happen, but I heard it happen, and I felt it happen, just a few blocks away at my father’s church. It is a sound that I will never forget, that will forever reverberate in my ears. That bomb took the lives of four young girls, including my friend and playmate, Denise McNair. The crime was calculated to suck the hope out of young lives, bury their aspirations. But those fears were not propelled forward, those terrorists failed.[10]
– Condoleezza Rice, Commencement 2004, Vanderbilt University, May 13, 2004
unquote
2) it is also said from a nieghbor that at a young age she questions current events and why blacks were treated different than whites . She also said that the republicans were the only ones that let her father vote , not the dems , hence her reason for being a repub .
3) i would vote condi over hillary , i think a lot of people would . Actually i never really cared for her , until i read some of her policies, also she performed with yoyou ma ( classy ) ... It is also a smart move on the repubs part ,.
I never really cared for condi , but if they put her against obama , it is going to get real interesting .
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lioness, gurl, you are like me because this whole election process is strange and very unusual to this political outsider. I like John Edwards as B.O.'s running mate, but I have read about this country's sordid and evil past to know something sinister still may occur in 2008. I wouldn't vote for Rice or Clinton on a "dog catcher" ticket. The devil holds all the cards in politics and that's why I am not moved by the process at all. Fortunately for me, I'm voting regardless of who the candidates are on the tickets. Although I have a weird/odd feeling about this election, something is still not right but I guess we just have to wait and see,huh? I really hope Obama is not being used to cause confusion and mayhem in our lives because that would be so deceitful for him to do this to a supportive community.
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i need to get this book
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Peaches: I do agree with you about Hillary humbling herself to second place. The question is will she?
I don't know about Hilary,she is too polarizing. I was thinking if it has to be a woman, what about the Senator from Missouri.
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I don't know too much about the woman Senator from Missouri, but it will definitely be interesting to see who Obama taps for his #2.
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Peaches, the woman Senator from Missouri can not capture the votes of a Hillary Clinton. You have to look at more than gender in political strategy. You just can't put someone on your ticket because they are female and call it a day, they have to have much more to offer and Hillary is the strongest person for VP on the democratic ticket right now. She can bring Obama the Latino vote because he has the black vote tied up and Hillary can also bring over a lot of white voters.
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so half dollar is going to make a deal with satan? hmm, may want to re-think that one.
is all this tupac and biggie talk a prelude for something? hmm...
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got dayummm. at first i thought the talk of myra having an inside on the happenings of dc was bull but know i'm seriously starting to wonder if shes got a full scope lifestlye polygraph...wowzer
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In terms of this site and the owner, never underestimate, I think that has been proven. It's not unusual for media outlets to have insiders in D.C., this site happens to cover the entire spectrum from entertainment, sports, espionage and politics. Nothing should surprise you about this site and the accurate information they offer. If the information wasn't accurate, I doubt that Federal agencies would be on here compiling it to break cases.
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I have to admit this for perhaps the millionth time...I love this freakin' site, PR is no joke!!!
I tripped out when reading the Tupac story and Mayra actually giving the victims name.
Didn't know her personally, but was very close to someone that knew and hung out with her when Ayanna still lived in Brooklyn.
Disclaimer: NO ONE deserves to be assaulted, brutalized or raped.
with that being said...
From what I was told, she was an interesting character to say the very least.
Giving someone (Tupac)oral sex in the middle of the dance floor, was probably not the smartest thing she could've done...
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I see Antoin "Tony" Rezko made it to the front page. I have a feeling we will start hearing more and more about this guy and other skeletons.
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Yeah, I think Pellicano's verdict is promting a lot of these fixer stories.
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@ Hey
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true, true.
This guy seems like a character. I kept hearing about him, so I starting doing my own little homemade research on him.
1.He was facing some kind of charges in Chicago becuase he was a slumlord who turned off the heat of his residents who were poor African-Americans when he did the land deal with Obama, who says that he didn't know that Rezko was under investigation.
2. The city of Chicago has some sort of minority business program that helps Blacks own companies, so word is that Rezko would find Black people to say that they own the company, such as Jabir Herbert Muhammad of the Nation of Islam, but Rezko would actually run the company. The Black business owners are basically a front.
3. This Levine guy PR mentioned on the frontpage seems like a character as well. He claims that a lot of the Rezko deals were made at some place called the "Purple Hotel", complete with loads of cocaine and meth. Levine also says that the parties were all male. oh, and the Purple Hotel is supposed to be featured in the movie Casino
..I was thinking that Rezko will have to start ratting people out to save himself, on some Nino Brown type of thing, but then I read that his defense team is going to try and portray Levine as a delusional cokehead who can't remember anything.
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Well, well, well MYRA you have truly outdone yourself this time. I do believe you are on to something. I knew there was something else to this story everything being said just didnt seem right about all the rumors going around about the Tupac murder. Damn girl you are good!!!!!!!!
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WOW, didn't know fixer Rezko was behind Harold Washington's campaign in Chicago. I don't care what anyone says, that man was assassinated
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RIO DE JANEIRO (Reuters) - Brazilian singing star Caetano Veloso defended disgraced footballer Ronaldo at a show in Rio de Janeiro, saying the AC Milan striker did not have to apologize to anyone over his embarrassing encounter with three transvestites in a Rio motel.
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The three-times former world player of the year has since given TV interviews to profess his shame but has also been mocked mercilessly on variety shows and in the media.
At the concert in Rio on Thursday night, Veloso, one of Brazil's most renowned musicians and an influential figure in his home country, played a rarely-performed 1982 song "Three Transvestites." He then followed up by praising Ronaldo.
"Ronaldo does not have to ask forgiveness. The intimate part is no one's business. Ronaldo's football is poetry and poetry must be respected," he told the audience.
"Ronaldo was right when he said he didn't want to pay because he was being threatened. This man is a star."
Ronaldo said after the run-in that the transvestites had tried to blackmail him. He said he had done something "really stupid" and feared his reputation has been ruined forever.
The 31-year-old, who scored both goals when Brazil beat Germany 2-0 in the 2002 World Cup final, is recovering from a knee injury that is expected to keep him out of football action for another seven months.
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Terrence Dean's book was such a waste of money and a great big disappointment. This book reads like a gay romance novel. This is not a tell all he never mentioned who was on the down low in hip hop. He continues, I see to hide in hip hop he said nothing that has not already been said. I mean if I knew it was going to be blind items from the 80's; I would not have bothered buying the book. While I have nothing against gay men. I hate these so call down low brothers acting like they are some type of victim. And what is the point of the down low label. down low=gay, gay=down low there is absolutely no difference Terrence mmmk. Homosexuality is the act of having sex with the same sex. It has nothing to do with being a coward, creeping around with men nor lying and fronting with women. Down low just means not admitting that you are gay Coining a new phrase does not make you any less gay. Terrence continues to protect a way of life that is detrimental to the black race. It is so sad and selfish what these gay men are doing. The Gay men that I know are true men they don't hide who they are they don't play games with women they live their lives accepting who they are. Being gay never stops a man from being a man. This book is not what it proclaims to be. Too bad I thought someone was about to the blow these GAY men out of the water. NOT
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Co-signed. What a waste of time and money.
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Wow what a bunch of defeatist on this page. Excuse me Lobbyist are you saying black people are dumb and don't know anything about politics? How insulting as if you are the only black person informed about Politics. I'm voting for Obama because he is the right man for the job. He's young, he's poised ,he's works well under pressure, willing to be diplomatic, and very intelligent. Its obvious you are thinking with your emotions because it is quite arrogant of you to think that you know whats on the minds of all black people. You need to get your mind right.
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My mind is right, that's why I'm highly successful, intelligent and prominent. Where did I say black people are dumb? Please copy and paste. Stop taking my words out context and putting words in my mouth. I simply said that one poster didn't seem to understand the inner workings of politics and many races of people don't understand politics up close and personal. As for a defeatist attitude, people are entitled to their opinion and I still stand by mine: I will vote for Obama but White America will not vote for a black man to lead this country, they are resistant to change. I do not like John McCain and would never vote for him.
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I agree...because everyone knows that white people in general are afraid of an intelligent black man. These is the real reason that whites are not voting for him... Face facts, from the start all political know it alls believed that Hillary had won the election without casting the first vote... Face it, the lady in the pant suits is making her exit stage right...
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@ Shark
The fact that Obama is winning the primary in popular votes as well as in delegates is proof positive that Whites are voting for him. As someone mentioned above, Blacks make up about 12% of the population and only a portion vote. Therefore, if Whites were not voting for him he wouldn't be winning. Not to mention, Hillary has had a larger percentage of the Hispanic vote. So please explain to me who is voting for Obama, if Whites in general are scared of an intelligent Black man in the whitehouse?
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@ Severyn
No need to get upset... I was referring to the lopsided vote in WV and soon to be KY... I agree with you... but there are some that will not vote for Barack.. For instances The Gov. of Penn, stated that some in his state are not ready to vote for a black man... That seem to be true in WV as well. Also I stated (in general) not all white people will not vote for Barack... And if white people were not afraid of intelligent black men then why are there not more Blacks CEO's? just saying
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Hey P.R fam *waving at everyone* after reading comments and posting some of my own regarding Nicariah (Nick/Mariah) something else dawned on me; Eminem put her out there as a psychotic needy bitch in one of his songs (not to mention other disses) and as I was driving today for some reason those lyrics from his song Superman came to mind:
Am I too nice? buy you ice,
Bitch if you died, wouldn't buy you life,
What you tryin to be, my new wife?
What you Mariah? fly through twice,
But I do know one thing though,
Bitches they come, they go,
Saturday through sunday monday,
Monday through sunday yo,
Maybe i'll love you one day,
Maybe we'll someday grow,
Till then just sit your drunk ass on that fuckin runway hoe... Am I too nice? buy you ice,
Bitch if you died, wouldn't buy you life,
What you tryin to be, my new wife?
What you Mariah? fly through twice,
But I do know one thing though,
Bitches they come, they go,
Saturday through sunday monday,
Monday through sunday yo,
Maybe i'll love you one day,
Maybe we'll someday grow,
Till then just sit your drunk ass on that fuckin runway hoe...
Hmm, makes MiMi sound rather desperate/clingy doesn't it? Apparently for all the whining about her marriage to Tommy Motola she's been trying to get back down that aisle for a while. Seems like for all of her attractiveness dudes don't wanna make that permanent. Hell Latin singer Luis Miguel shook her ass like a dirty rug to get away........Nick save yo' self, run nigga run
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Their is a lot of talk about Haitian Jack, one must always remember what happened to the "Original 50 Cent". History has a tendency of repeating itself! Rumors persisting of him being an informant will do him no justice in the not so distance future.
You can't be a gangsta and a snitch at the same time. It's a bit like Frank Lucas "American Gangsta", claiming to be the ultimate gangsta and then being the worlds most notorious informant that has ever lived.
After giving lengthy sentences to everyone associated with him, and now living under the witness protection programme, writing a book, attracting fame and attention he fails to realise that real gangsta's don't live under the Witness Protection Programme and look for celebrity status at the same time!
I could think of 10 gangsta's in America who would've deserved that title of American Gangsta, Frank Lucas and Nicky Barnes wouldn't have made it in top 100. However, if it was to be re-titled American Snitch, they would've made it into the top 5!
N.B To be born a gangsta, is to die a gangsta, not a F#@k!ng snitch!
If you can't do the time, don't do the crime!
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Is Soul Train in the house? if so (hi)
is he as arrogant as they say he is?
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I will never forget, remember SOUL newspaper back in the day, they had an article with a black woman who said Ray struck her because she told him he was attractive and he responded by saying, he wasn't in to women at the time, they argued and she said she got hit. The story disappeared. He would marry a white woman and is the father of 4 sons. He passed on producing and writing songs for Whitney's debut album because he didn't think she would make it, he is now kicking himself in the head, the songwriters on that album made a mint. He definitely could not be a talent scout. Heard he didn't like anyone in his radio band to get more attention than him or they would get replaced. Was a millionaire at 18, drove a benz his senior year in high school because of guitar session work. Was set for life financially through an investment guru at 21.
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Nick got a Maserati, nice car.
_ I can see Rihanna acting.
_Charles Barkley and friends have serious gambling addictions.
Murdoch is a mogul.
_Everybody is going down b/c of Spitzer.
I don't think Flo's side/story will ever be told.
_I am so tired of seeing Jackie in those bedazzled jeans.
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Strategist and Lobbyist shout out. I understand exactly what you mean. Blacks can't work together because of bullshit or there would be black mergers to create a super power in business. White men don't have to like each other but they will come together to make money. Blacks can't seem to do that. If team Obama hooks up with Hillary, the bullshit will have to be put aside by Obama to create a successful ticket that can challenge McCain and Condeleeza. Black posters on another board are saying, if he teams up with Hillary they will no longer support him. Stupid, put the bs aside to get Obama in the White House, if that's what it takes, that's what it takes or would you rather see McCain win because you pulled your support. Stupid. I read an article with Brandy who wished she would have put the pettiness aside when she worked with Monica on that record the boy is mine. Because she didn't she missed out on making a lot of money from touring off that hit record, she said she lost out on big money because she couldn't put the bullshit aside. This is the real reason we don't have one black business merger in the U.S, because blacks can't put bullshit and bickering aside and work together to create a successful conglomerate.
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Black Elite, Well said I could not have said it better...
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Thank you, like another poster said, Blacks take everything too personal, now if someone calls you a racist term, you are supposed to get mad but this is politics, the gloves come off. They act like, Hillary dogged Obama, we want support him if she gets on the ticket, conservatives must be laughing so hard at these black fools, their stomachs are aching. To win, you have to put bullshit aside, even if you don't like each other, if teaming up is going to get you in the white house, go for it! I can't even discuss politics with Blacks, they get so damned emotional over Obama and don't really understand the back end of politics which is also evident from a few posters in here. SMH. Big ups to sheknows, lobbyist and strategist, you understand.
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Yea whatever, you bow down Negro's continue to think we need the Clinton's, the Clinton's let black people know just how she/they feel about black people. Obama didn't need Hillary's help up until this point and at what point does Hillary concede that her race is over and bow out graciously oh too late. She's has no problem trying to destroy Obama. I don't see Hillary trying to work together. He has other options besides Hillary for a running mate. Hillary should be trying to bring the party together until she makes that kind of move, Obama shouldn't have to do anything. He's the winner here people, he's the one who ran a hell of a campaign why in the hell should he HAVE to choose Hillary, he doesn't need Hillary.
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bow down, why are we bowing down, perfect example of Blacks not being familiar with how campaigns and politics are run. See how emotional you are over this. I'm voting for Obama but he will not make it easier for Blacks because he is Black, if he wins. The establishment will not let him.
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There are plenty of so-called feminist white women who truly believe that Obama took their chance of having the first woman president. They also claim that they will vote for McCain or worse, not vote at all if Obama get the nomination ( just go to any feminist blogs). So, blacks are not the only ones talking nonsense.In their twisted view of things, the women's right to ascend to the White House takes preference over a black man's struggle to do the same.
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If Obama is looking to get the Hispanic vote then he will go with Bill Richardson. For the white votes then maybe Jim Webb. Whoever he picks, I doubt very much it will be Hillary. Just my opinion.
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Maybe you should check out PR's updated front page, the Washington Post confirmed what PR reported Friday. Obama/Clinton camps are in talks.
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The article has to do with fund raising. Both Hillary and Obama agreed that they want their party to have more money for November no matter who becomes the nominee.
The newly created Democratic White House Victory Fund will benefit whoever wins the nomination. This just announced last Wednesday.
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