BLIND ITEM: "NBA WIFE SWAPPING & SWINGING"

 
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  • 3/27/2008 7:46 PM Myra wrote:
    East Coast:



    The new trend among a few black players in the NBA is wife swapping.  A player from a East Coast team often swaps his wife with another player and vice versa on an irregular basis. 



    They are both trying to add spice to their marriage and they are best friends on the team.  Before this agreed up arrangement, one of the players was having an affair with his personal assistant.



    Sadly, the wives will do anything to hold on to their men, even if they're not comfortable with it.



    One defends the practice by saying, "Well, at least I know the woman my husband is having sex with and he knows the man I'm having sex with."



    West Coast:



    You don't have to be a sports fan to know who this NBA star is.  The open marriage he shares with his wife is slowly leaking out.  She found out about his numerous outside kids as well as his jump-off and wifey.



    She threatened to take him to the cleaners unless he agreed to an open marriage.  She got involved with another NBA player.  Rumor has it, our star had him traded.



    They recently attended a very affluent and discreet swingers event for celebrities.  He participated in a group orgy but became enraged when his wife engaged in sex with a celebrity at the party. 



    He grabbed her and made a scene, telling her, "you are the mother of my kids, I dare you!" despite the fact he participated in an orgy. When she brought this up, he said, "men have different needs than women, accept it."



    According to our source, after she dressed, he roughly grabbed her by the arm and they exited the party.
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  • 3/27/2008 7:48 PM Ione wrote:
    Good evening everyone. Mmmmm just taking a wild guess Colby?
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    1. 3/27/2008 7:50 PM Ione wrote:
      Oooooops I mean Kobe.
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      1. 3/27/2008 7:57 PM kelolo wrote:
        Oh,wait.Kobe does sound good for the west coast.......The player he had traded could be Shaq
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      2. 9/22/2008 12:12 PM Jacki wrote:
        Vanessa runs Kobe!
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    2. 3/27/2008 7:55 PM kelolo wrote:
      Who I'm thinking for the west coast.Kenyon Martin
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      1. 3/27/2008 7:57 PM LCF1ATL wrote:
        I have no guesses on this one. I am going to lurk this one out.
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      2. 3/27/2008 7:58 PM kelolo wrote:
        I take Kenyon back,it's Kobe.He's a dickhead..
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        1. 3/27/2008 8:19 PM smartarse wrote:
          This one "makes you wanna slap your momma!!!!!"..... I think Kobe is too much of a convenient answer to the west coast guy.

          I'm guessing Stephon Marbury for the east coast....it's a wild guess...but stephon is notorious for crazy dumb mess....his wife has to be just as crazy and stupid to marry him...so she could be capable of doing such things...
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        2. 3/27/2008 8:22 PM Peaches wrote:
          Kelolo, I can take you to any thread without you showing out! LOL! Nah, I don't know many b-ball players, but I would think of Kobe first since it says the wife threatened to take the husband to the cleaners and it is well known that Kobe & Vanessa don't have a prenup, so she really would take him to the cleaners.
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          1. 3/27/2008 8:43 PM kelolo wrote:
            Well, she did say that you don't have to be sports fan to know this dude.I,myself,not a sports fan.So to somebody who don't know shit about sports,it must be somebody that even somebody that hate sports knows.I have to jump in the car with Ione for Kobe for the second.Now the East Coast,I don't have a clue.
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    3. 3/28/2008 12:42 PM DADDYSGIRL wrote:
      kobe is TOO obvious. i think its shaq cuz i can c kobe with hoez but outside kids n jump offs? no. he doenst have a prenup so he's still hoein but on d slick. shaq has always been out there n i hear his wife was married 2 a dude who used 2 work for shaq. n then the rumors about her trickin off her personal trainer. its them with d open marriage, shaq n shaunie n the player he had traded was derek fisher who was a laker for the longest n was a key in helping them get all those rings. im a b-ball fanatic n anyone who would trade fisher is out of their minds. he's back with the lakers now b/c his kid needs medical treatment in LA...shaq is gone. n shaq CHOSE 2 leave b/c kobe is a b!tch who ratted him out 2 d media b/c he was in boiling water with the rape allegations. his character was questioned and he loss endorsements n was like "u guys act like im the first guy, shaq does it but pays his girls off". shoulda took notes assh*le. they say that practices were so tense after that.
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      1. 3/28/2008 1:33 PM RenaissanceMan wrote:
        Nooo..."Fish" was a Free Agent and Golden State stepped up to the plate & offered more than the Lakers.
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        1. 3/28/2008 8:19 PM DADDYSGIRL wrote:
          thanx 4 that info. oh well back 2 d drawing board. but i still think its shaq n shaunie tho.
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  • 3/27/2008 7:58 PM celebgossip wrote:
    Hmph! What I wouldn't give to be a fly on the wall in that orgy!!!! I have NO clue!! Sable? Where are you girl?
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    1. 3/27/2008 9:47 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
      Hey celeb, those hollywood orgies are becoming more frequent with bigger and bigger names but since PR has busted them out, they are trying to be more secretive I heard. They are really checking for cameras and devices because of what ends up on this board, same with the DL parties.
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      1. 3/28/2008 5:55 AM Anonymous wrote:
        Morning, I typically just lurk. However, Ms. Sable, I am humbly inquiring into what you know about
        Derek Jeter?
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      2. 3/28/2008 6:05 AM MochaMom wrote:
        They should know that if they do it outside of the four corners of their homes it is fair game for people to find out. Freaks!
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        1. 3/28/2008 11:20 AM eyeonu2 wrote:
          MochaMom this is the Panache Report. If it's entertainment it's fair game, regardless of where it occurs- LOL. Get on your game and keep it tight or you just may read about it.
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  • 3/27/2008 8:01 PM Jennifer wrote:
    I will say Allan Iverson.
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    1. 3/28/2008 9:11 AM Cali Lurker wrote:
      I agree. The west coast player is Allan Iverson. Myra wrote "According to our source, after she dressed, he roughly grabbed her by the arm and they exited the party." sounds like him all the way.
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      1. 3/28/2008 9:13 AM Paris wrote:
        It's not Allen Iverson. My only not for the day, see you guys later, me and ashley are working on a special report.
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  • 3/27/2008 8:05 PM Bingo wrote:
    This could be sooo many people. These folks should seriously develop some hobbies, if they are so damn bored. They are so lacking in imagination, all they can think of to do is engage in recreational sex, then when the shit hits the fan, it's a problem. *smh*
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    1. 3/27/2008 8:06 PM Deanna wrote:
      Exactly!
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    2. 3/27/2008 8:24 PM Nyllatoo wrote:
      Well said Bingo.
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  • 3/27/2008 8:06 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
    Lady Sable is now present. I am thinking Kobe, other player I heard was Bonzi Wells. East Coast, still working on that but Kobe is off the chain, how many women can one man have and that's not counting the stuff on here from the bodyguard book, darlings, one of those stories even included a porn star. This man is busy, if it is him, three households, and bay bay kids everywhere, lol. Vanessa is a fool and was always trying to step to black women about her over sexed cheating hubby. LOL.
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    1. 3/27/2008 8:09 PM BigWin wrote:
      Good evening Gorgeous One...

      I'm quietly lurking on this one... but I gotta ask; Bonzi???
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      1. 3/27/2008 8:14 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
        Yep, the whispers I am hearing in L.A., how have you been and where have u been darling?
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        1. 3/27/2008 8:26 PM smartarse wrote:
          While Bonzi may be low down, I don't think he's the answer to the blind.... He's not that popular of a player so people that don't follow basketball may not know who he is... and he doesn't have the clout to get someone traded....

          Maybe it's Allen Iverson....there was this guy trying to blackmail him....maybe this is the info that he had....
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          1. 3/27/2008 8:41 PM editorialgirl wrote:
            I can believe Kobe cheating, and I still think he committed the rape, but the extra kids? Does he have extra kids/
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            1. 3/27/2008 10:05 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
              Darling, even Michael Jordan had extra kids well hidden on Juanita.
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              1. 3/28/2008 7:12 AM anonymous1 wrote:
                I just fell off my CHAIR!

                Amazing what they can hide if they want to. This is why when they complain about the paps - I don't buy it.
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              2. 3/28/2008 7:23 AM eyeonu2 wrote:
                I don't know about well hidden from Juanita. They had a prenup and she still got mega paid. Perhaps she knew about those kids & a lot of other stuff he thought she didn't and that's why the mega payment that reportedly far exceeded the terms of the prenup (which was actually a post nup signed after they married).
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              3. 3/28/2008 10:09 AM PinkSilk wrote:
                Someone told me about Jordan's outside kids in 1998. She told me that they are in the Marlyand/D.C area. (seemed like all the Black folks I met back then who had money were from Maryland) Her family was upper-class and she told me: "Jordan isn't what a lot of people think he is." This was BEFORE his divorce, before that white trashy woman tried to get money from him,etc. Back then he had this perfect image, and I kinda didn't believe her.
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                1. 3/28/2008 12:45 PM SouthnDiva wrote:
                  Maybe that is why he invested in the Wizards!?
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                  1. 3/28/2008 1:13 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
                    Maybe bec both he & Juanita stated that he spent a lot of time there during that period because of his role with the team.I really think she was smart enough to get some digging done and if she didn't know about all of the dirt, she at least uncovered some bones. I have not seen her in the media lately but she always kept herself very well styled and is an attractive lady.
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                    1. 3/28/2008 1:18 PM SouthnDiva wrote:
                      Spent alot of time there going to see his kids!? I am sure that Juanita had ALL her duckies lined up when she jumped ship. I remember that first time she was going to leave him and they got back together, I think he should have let her go then. He should have known she was going to have her stuff straight when she left. Isn't she a lawyer?
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                      1. 3/28/2008 1:26 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
                        No not a laywer. If I recall correctly I think she had journalistic aspirations- I could be wrong but I don't think she's a lawyer. I don't know why they waited after the 1st go round, maybe it was for the kids, idk.
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                      2. 3/28/2008 3:21 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
                        Juanita is in real estate, she worked at a bank when they met. Last photo I saw of her, she is pushing 250 lbs, gained a lot of weight, I guess the stress of divorce. Both his sons date white and his daughter dates black guys, like most of Hollywod.
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                        1. 3/28/2008 4:04 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
                          That's a huge weight gain-wow. I haven't seen any recent pictures of her.
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                        2. 3/28/2008 5:24 PM SouthnDiva wrote:
                          Thanks GS for the info! Stress will do it to you and she may be an emotional eater.
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                        3. 3/29/2008 5:20 AM KKAve wrote:
                          Hey all. I'm generally a lurker but, I saw Juanita last year at my cousin's funeral. She is definitely not overweight. And, she did not have stress from the divorce, why would she? It was for her benefit. She's from all accounts smart, and very well put together.
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                          1. 3/29/2008 6:24 AM BlessedWoman wrote:
                            I think the last photos released of her showed her overweight, which was around the time of the divorce, but she may have lost weight since then.
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              4. 3/28/2008 9:46 PM Candid Canuck wrote:
                ..one of them is here in Toronto..
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                1. 3/30/2008 10:50 AM PinkSilk wrote:
                  oh really!!?! Air Jordan gets around. I've been hearing about the nightlife in Toronto...
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          2. 3/27/2008 9:30 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
            Bonzi didn't have Kobe traded, Kobe had bonzi traded, he is the one with the clout.
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            1. 3/27/2008 9:36 PM Deanna wrote:
              Bonzi Wells never played for the Lakers.

              I can't find anything that says he played for the Lakers.
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              1. 3/27/2008 9:38 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
                Whatever team Bonzi was on, I heard Kobe had something to do with his trade.
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                1. 3/27/2008 9:44 PM Deanna wrote:
                  Bonzi was traded this season from the Houston Rockets to the New Orleans Hornets.

                  Kobe had something to do with that? Maybe because of one of Kobe's concubine. Lots of players have "girls" here in Houston.
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                  1. 3/28/2008 8:15 PM S.Shot wrote:
                    Not even Kobe has the clout to get a man traded from a franchise that he himself doesn't even play for. So let's think teammates because it's obvious these guys must have played on the same team.
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              2. 3/27/2008 9:40 PM Anonymous wrote:
                I do not think the person the wife slept with was another ball player because the BI said celebrity (not teammate or player).
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                1. 3/27/2008 9:46 PM Deanna wrote:
                  Naw...the BI says player.

                  And I quote, "She got involved with another NBA player. Rumor has it, our star had him traded."

                  Now, it doesn't say "teammate" but it does say "player".
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                  1. 3/27/2008 9:56 PM Anonymous wrote:
                    Ok, there are 3 incidents in this BI.
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                    1. 3/27/2008 10:03 PM Deanna wrote:
                      3 Incidents:
                      (1) Two East Coast players wife-swapping

                      (2) West Coast well-known star with an open-marriage filled with double-standards.

                      (3) West Coast star had another West Coast player traded because his wife "got involved" with said player.

                      I think I got it.
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                      1. 3/27/2008 10:32 PM Trinity wrote:
                        #2 star had #3player traded
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                        1. 3/27/2008 10:47 PM BigWin wrote:
                          Bonzi was explosive off of the bench...

                          He knew Rick Adelman's system... VERY WELL

                          He was traded for a point guard which The Rockets already have a slew of...

                          Who's number two in Houston, although he feels he's number one?

                          Tracy McGrady
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                          1. 3/27/2008 10:52 PM Deanna wrote:
                            Exactly, Trinity! I knew I ready the BI correctly.

                            And BigWin, yes, Tracy McGrady does think he's the number 1 player on the team when he doesn't have the hear to finish.

                            Tracy wants to be the star but can't perform like a star under pressure. Thus the no-go past the 1st round of the playoffs.

                            As my guy says, he has the same problem that his cousin Vince Carter has: no heart.
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                            1. 3/27/2008 11:01 PM BigWin wrote:
                              Yep...
                              Invisible don't make invincible...
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                          2. 3/28/2008 6:44 AM GORGEOUS SABLE wrote:
                            BigWin and Deanna: Tracy McGrady is so egotistical, if I am not mistaken, he played with his relative (i think) Vince Carter in Canada I think, and he was pissed because Vince got all the headlines and pouted and demanded to be traded. Bonzi was rumored to mess with Vanessa and that's why no one understands why he was traded, now, we know why. Back in the day, Tracey Edmonds was linked with a basketball player, I didn't believe it at first but after the last sky villa segment, may be some truth to it.
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                            1. 3/28/2008 8:59 AM SouthnDiva wrote:
                              Wasn't it that Derrick Fisher? I remember Babyface came out in her defense and then seemed like not to long after that, they were getting divorced. Hmmmm?
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                            2. 3/28/2008 9:26 AM Trinity wrote:
                              Yes Sable, Tracy & Vince played together for Toronto but that was eons ago when Tracy 1st came into the league - when he was reallllll cock eyed
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                              1. 3/28/2008 9:29 AM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
                                Tracy's wedding video was beautiful but he always wanted to be the star, not a background guy and he and Vince are related.
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                                1. 3/28/2008 10:08 AM Deanna wrote:
                                  Yes, they are Cousins.

                                  And (IMO) Kobe OWNED Tracy when they played on 3/16 here in Houston. Tracy had 6 points and a majority of those were in the 4th quarter.

                                  After the game, he and Rafer Alston (corny) said that they "just played a better team" but said it in a way that led me to believe they knew they would lose. Perfect example of what I've been saying, NO HEART! If you're on a 22-game winning streak, why go into game 23 with a losing mentality? Soft.
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                                2. 3/28/2008 10:23 AM Trinity wrote:
                                  Very beautiful, if i still have link will post
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                            3. 3/28/2008 10:05 AM Deanna wrote:
                              Okay, it makes sense now. And like someone said below, it all depends on how valuable the player is to the NBA as a whole. As we can see, Kobe is extremely valuable to ticket sales for the Lakers. He did all that talk about being traded or getting help and they got that man some help. I keep hearing from a huge Laker fanatic that Kobe has a lot more pull with the Lakers than anyone knows, so he probably has pull league-wide.

                              And yes, I'm hear in Houston, and all the local sports commentators for ESPN were all puzzled as to why Bonzi was traded (or so they said).
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                  2. 3/27/2008 10:33 PM Nubian wrote:
                    "She got involved with another NBA player. Rumor has it, our star had him traded."

                    The only way kobe could have had a player traded is if they were on the same team.No player can dictate to another team who they could trade.
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                    1. 3/28/2008 7:15 AM anonymous1 wrote:
                      I am not saying Kobe has Jordan's status.

                      However, do you think if JORDAN wanted someone traded who was not on his team, he could have had it done?

                      It's not just how well they play, it is also what they MEAN to the NBA ($$$$$).
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                      1. 3/29/2008 9:33 PM lakergirl32 wrote:
                        no, even in jordan's prime he could not have had a player traded from a team other than his own. the other owners do not care about appeasing jordan--the league is and was bigger than him. rmember who has the real clout.
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                    2. 3/30/2008 10:19 AM inyoguts wrote:
                      I agree with you here nubian. Now kobe may have the clout to influence a trade to the lakers. If a team is considering making a trade with the lakers and kobe makes a call to solidify the deal then yeah, but to influence a franchise to get rid of 1 of their players just because??? I doubt it.
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            2. 3/28/2008 2:34 PM smartarse wrote:
              Thanks for the clarification, I definitely misread that one. But it is still hard to believe that the booty snatcher had enough pull to have a guy from another team traded.
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        2. 3/28/2008 5:56 AM Aquarius76 wrote:
          I had some friends who attended Ball State, who knew Bonzi very well and I attended Indiana University, and when their sororities gave parties, I would go down. Bonzi was an a**hole then, he only wanted to be seen with white women, but he would sleep with the black girls all day and not acknowledge them publicly. That did not stop the black girls from wanting to be with him, and he was not much to look at IMO. So, I would ask why do you all even bother they'd be like,"Girl, he's about to be drafted to the NBA", and I still couldn't understand why they'd subject themselves to being dissed by him. He tried to act like he was all that and a bag of chips, and he was treated like royalty.
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          1. 3/28/2008 7:02 AM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
            This would explain my Bonzi and Vanessa theory since she doesn't really like black women either, they have something in common and women are stupid, tolerate disrespect because he will get drafted, where is self esteem.
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            1. 3/28/2008 10:12 AM Deanna wrote:
              They have no self esteem. They get give away the goods real quick thinking that if they do it good enough, the the soon-to-be drafted player will either make them wife, wifey, or mistress (as stated in the BI) since all three get some amount of financial support in one way or another.

              And the soon-to-be-drafted players play into this and look for these women. It's like treatment they expect and take advantage of.

              If these girls really want to get on like that, they need to develop their mental game and get at them that way instead of dropping their panties real quick thinking that will get them an edge over the competition.

              But then again, there are some girls who just want bragging rights, so I can't call it.
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              1. 3/28/2008 11:48 AM chebella wrote:
                I've been courtside at some NBA games and the quality of the groupies it way off. There were so many badly dressed hoochie mamas there with young kids that most likely belonged to the players. I was really shocked because I thought the NBA would attract the model types to the game. I even saw TO there one night with his cute little boy and he kept checking me out.
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              2. 3/28/2008 1:11 PM onedrop wrote:
                No self esteem is necessary in this situation. Just sleep with the a pro athlete because you can brag about it later and perhaps luck up and get a child support check. It's good while the pro athlete is making money, you can get your $10,000+ in child support.

                I know of a someone who has babies by two pro athletes, one of them is Andre Rison. Isn't Andre Rison broke now? I don't believe she's collecting any kind of child support from him, he probably owes her money now. So now she has to make ends on one child support check when her only profession is babies mama.
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              3. 3/30/2008 9:39 AM cocoalatte wrote:
                Very good points ,but women should aspire to be more than a mistress or wifey to as man that already has a "wife" .
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          2. 3/28/2008 1:18 PM hunnyluv78 wrote:
            Hi. I know this may seem dumb, but what does "IMO" mean?
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            1. 3/28/2008 1:26 PM SouthnDiva wrote:
              Not dumb, IMO means "In My Opinion."
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            2. 3/28/2008 1:30 PM abw wrote:
              It is internet speak for "in my opinion".IMHO means "in my humble opinion." I did not always know what it meant either. I still do not know what all those abbreviations stand for now.
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              1. 3/28/2008 1:36 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
                If we use them on this board ask. PR peeps are quick to share knowledge.
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      2. 3/27/2008 8:16 PM Charles wrote:
        Wassup Bigwin?? How are you Man? Where have you been?
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        1. 3/27/2008 10:49 PM BigWin wrote:
          Whaddup Big Charles!!!

          Working brother... just working.
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  • 3/27/2008 8:12 PM Deanna wrote:
    Like someone said, these could be any number of NBA players, but it's hard for me to believe that every NBA Blind Item about a west coast player involves Kobe. I'm not defending Kobe; I'm just saying.

    Who are some other big names on the West Coast teams?
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  • 3/27/2008 8:18 PM Trebonique wrote:
    Damn what money and power can afford. I would have at least 3 and never get married. We could all have a spiritual union ceremony.
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    1. 3/27/2008 8:22 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
      Tre are your scales balanced tonight?LMAO
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      1. 3/27/2008 8:37 PM Trinity wrote:
        LOL!
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      2. 3/27/2008 8:38 PM Trebonique wrote:
        eyeonu2 LMAO No my scales are off tonight. I am so tired...
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        1. 3/27/2008 8:51 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
          As soon as you said spirtiual union- I thpught of Brandy-LOL. These guys only get away with what the women put up with.
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          1. 3/27/2008 8:55 PM Trebonique wrote:
            LOL funny... I was quoting Eddie and Tracey LOL..

            Well its been fun but I have to call it a night. I am sure by the AM you all will have the BI figured out. Goodnight PR family
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            1. 3/27/2008 9:01 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
              I forgot about them. Brandy should have put a patent on that when she used it. If she had she'd get paid everytime 1 of these Hollyweird celebs tried to use it.
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            2. 3/27/2008 9:51 PM H-Bomb wrote:
              Tracey has a lot too hide indirectly just like Eddie does.
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              1. 3/27/2008 11:04 PM Deanna wrote:
                I keep hearing this, and I, myself, am DYING to find out what she has to hide indirectly.
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                1. 3/28/2008 7:18 AM anonymous1 wrote:
                  She HAS to be gay. HAS TO BE! I think that's why she beards.

                  There was a blind about ROCCO (chef) in GREECE (?) having a homosexual tryst.
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                2. 3/28/2008 7:59 AM teeteedee wrote:
                  DEANNA, you are not alone... I'm waiting for SOMEONE, anyone, to put the whole Babyface/Tracey/Eddie story on blast.
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                  1. 3/28/2008 9:12 AM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
                    Deanna, are you hooked up with sky villa and part of the crew because like the other poster said, it is a lot more to this story with tracey. She's not gay or bi but it is some bombshell shit that went on that nobody but us sky villa readers know about. I live in L.A. and never knew this but after I read it, everything made sense and started to add up, like missing puzzle pieces.
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                    1. 3/28/2008 10:19 AM Deanna wrote:
                      Unfortunately I do not have Sky Villa privileges.

                      Email me at dmj650@gmail.com when you get a chance so we can talk offline.
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                      1. 3/28/2008 11:26 AM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
                        Now Miss Deanna, you know I will lose my sv privlige if I tell, PR seems to know everything. Miss Sable can't be naughty.
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                        1. 3/28/2008 2:31 PM Deanna wrote:
                          LMAO...I tried.

                          And you're right. They probably will know if you told. LOL!
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                    2. 3/28/2008 11:44 AM chebella wrote:
                      OK, GS at some point you and/or PR have to come out with the dirt on Tracey or do a blind item for all us Sky Villa deprived posters. No fair for you to keep dangling that tidbit for that past couple of months! I can't even imagine what it could be but whatever it is it must be off the chain.
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                    3. 3/28/2008 2:22 PM S Epatha Lurkerson wrote:
                      I think she's just plain scandalous. I know her reps always talk about her having been in real estate and having a degree before she met Face. But, she was still hunting for a major come up and was willing to do whatever to get it. That's why she was video "modeling". It's the same old story: Once you achieve a certain level of success, you get run through the "Hollywood Car Wash". That's where all your reps, fixers, flunkies and what have you work overtime to keep all your skeletons in the closet and re-invent you as Miss America. I don't buy it, though. Showbiz is rough and people get down and dirty to get theirs. Trust!
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  • 3/27/2008 8:21 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
    Kobe has other children than the 2 Blexicans daughters that the public has seen?
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    1. 3/27/2008 8:37 PM rebirth wrote:
      Is Kobe's wife Mexican?
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    2. 3/27/2008 8:45 PM rebirth wrote:
      Hello guys,
      Is Kobe's wife Mexican?
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      1. 3/27/2008 8:50 PM Anonymous wrote:
        Yes.
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        1. 3/28/2008 7:19 AM anonymous1 wrote:
          Puerto Rican..
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          1. 3/28/2008 10:06 AM Anonymous wrote:
            Vanessa is Mexican, not Puerto Rican.
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      2. 3/27/2008 8:54 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
        Yes, it takes Bingo to put Vanessa's hertiage/background into perspective. I am trying to finish my coke before others chime in so that I don't wreck my laptop.
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    3. 3/27/2008 9:50 PM chuckles wrote:
      I am probably alone with my opinion here, but I think Brandy's daughter looks a lot like Kobe. I'm just sayin'
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      1. 3/28/2008 2:39 AM celebgossip wrote:
        Girl please! That block head girl looks just like Robert. Now I understand why she didn't want MTV cameras in the delivery room or to release a picture after she was born. That's a head she has to grow into. *spanking my hand for talking about a baby*
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      2. 3/28/2008 7:00 AM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
        Chuckles, Kobe isn't going back in time to hook up with Brandy. He was on the come up then but not now and Brandy would not fit in his category. His black wifey is one of the most beautiful black women besides myself, that I have ever seen. Kobe isn't checking for Brandy anymore. Brandy had one baller who was sweet and she screwed that up. Brandy is done.
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        1. 3/28/2008 9:37 AM Trinity wrote:
          Ms Sable, I know you're not playing yourself for 2nd... I think I remember that fool parading her around that all star weekend - didn't Charles & crew clown him for that?
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  • 3/27/2008 8:25 PM pick up the pieces wrote:
    ...wow, talk about double standards... the arrogance of the player and the ignorance of the wife is something else...if it is Kobe, not surprised...
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    1. 3/27/2008 8:28 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
      You mean the part where HE participated in a Orgy & she had sex w/ 1 other person and he hit the roof? Why bring your wife to an orgy if you don't want her to get down with anyone else? I just hear the Ojays singing now...for the love of money...don't let money rule you.
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      1. 3/27/2008 9:02 PM pick up the pieces wrote:
        Yes! If everyone is on the same page about,(______________)fill in the blank, than so be it between the two parties, however, they obviously weren't on the same page! I wonder if she would put up w/this mess if he wasn't rich and/or famous?
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      2. 3/27/2008 9:41 PM Madison Rae wrote:
        Men kill me with that double standard bullshit. Diddy used to use this excuse with Kim, but it's not the same. And her dumb ass accepted it until he humiliated her in front of the world.
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        1. 3/27/2008 10:51 PM BigWin wrote:
          You mean Shiddy, don't you?

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          1. 3/28/2008 1:23 PM onedrop wrote:
            BigWin ROFLMAO! Shiddy!? I L-O-V-E it! It's so appropriate for him!
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      3. 3/28/2008 1:43 PM abw wrote:
        Exactly. These "Negro" males kill me with that ish too. He mad cause HIS wife slept with another man. Never mind he had an orgy!A man has needs! Apparently a woman-his wife-does too. She got needs he obviously was not fulfilling. It never ceases to amaze me how male sluts love to search for decent women-and get mad when they make one discretion!
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  • 3/27/2008 8:27 PM Myra's BFF wrote:
    Okay, this is that rare time I wish I kept up with the NBA.

    The first one, I'm not sure.

    I'll go out on a limb for the 2nd one, even though Kobe came to mind. It could be too obvious. Is Tim Duncan married? Could it be him? Although I'm not sure who he could have had traded.

    Now that I think about it, could Doug Christie and his wife be part of the answer for #1? She seems like she'll do anything to keep him "faithful".
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    1. 3/27/2008 8:31 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
      I think I'd need pictures b4 I believed it was Doug & his wife. I think she'd cut "it" off before she "let" him get down with anyone else. She's a real piece of work.
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    2. 3/27/2008 8:34 PM Bingo wrote:
      Doug is too whipped to shake another woman's hand, let alone touch any other body parts.
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      1. 3/27/2008 9:42 PM Madison Rae wrote:
        Doug's wife would commit murder, she is off the chain and has him under lock and key.
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        1. 3/28/2008 1:48 PM SouthnDiva wrote:
          That woman needs mental help! I don't even think Xanax or Paxil could help her!
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          1. 3/28/2008 1:53 PM SouthnDiva wrote:
            Meant to type Zanax! Whatever happened to their reality show?
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    3. 3/28/2008 7:22 AM anonymous1 wrote:
      NO! She'd kill him and the mistress. Her EYES say it all.

      I know he loves her, but I wonder if her lack of trust after all thees years bothers him.
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  • 3/27/2008 8:31 PM Peaches wrote:
    Not to bring up the Dawn R drama (cause that issue is officially dead in my book), but I just read that Whitney is headling the Tobago Jazz Festival in April and one of the groups performing is En Vogue. I thought they were still broken and just got together to sing w/Salt & Pepa that one time on VH1. Did I miss an announcement?
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    1. 3/27/2008 8:38 PM Lady J wrote:
      Hey Peaches! I think they just perform without her and I think even one of the other girls was replaced! So it's Cindy, Terry and some chick unless they came to their senses and rocked with Maxine. I'm gonna do some snooping...
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      1. 3/27/2008 8:44 PM Peaches wrote:
        Aaah, okay. Thanks Lady J!
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        1. 3/27/2008 8:53 PM Lady J wrote:
          I found a myspace page that says Cindy, Maxine, Rhona and Terry are En Vogue and touring heavily. They have some nice new music especially a remake of Guys Piece of My Love that they call I do love you. Research is required for my classes right now so I am constantly testing my skills! If anyone needs some info let me know. Practice makes perfect! http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=193079045
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    2. 3/27/2008 9:29 PM Paris wrote:
      The publicist for that even just send us the release a day ago, we were going to do a ticket giveaway. EnVogue still performs and was recently in Europe on tour.
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      1. 3/28/2008 4:11 AM Paris Hilton's Valtrex wrote:
        I have been waiting half my life for EnVogue to get back together!!! They really need to show these female groups (young & old) how its really done!
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        1. 3/28/2008 6:03 AM Peaches wrote:
          I agree, PH. Thanks Paris & Lady J!
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        2. 3/28/2008 6:54 AM H-Bomb wrote:
          I don't think Envogue will ever welcome Dawn back for obvious reasons. They hate her husband like everybody else and she obviously has emotional and self issues. Lucy Pearl will not be getting back together because of the same reasons. She's bad news but getting back with Dre makes you wonder if she will still be around that much longer, sad but true. What's even more funny, Dawn still thinks she's a star and her time passed seven years ago. Like a lot of busted celebrities, she will not get a regular job and would prefer to live on mattresses with rats and roaches because a job is below the great dawn robinson. She needs a reality check and will be 50 years old, trying to get put on.
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          1. 3/28/2008 7:09 AM Jennifer wrote:
            I predict that if her new management team has to be subjected to her husband, they are going to drop her. Dre has zero credibility. People in the music industry don't take him seriously. He doesn't have any business sense whatsoever(sp)and people don't trust him. I have heard way too many stories over the years about him conning and taking advantage of people who were trying to help him. He will never change. Everbody knows he is a con man and Dawn looks bad being associated with him because now people are not going to trust her. She knows what she got herself into and she will only have herself to blame in the end.
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            1. 3/28/2008 7:18 AM H-BOMB wrote:
              What is Dawn thinking??? Got a career with new management and will risk it for this loser who has a past that would make a porn star blush. It can't be sex because I heard he acts like he doesn't even want her to touch him. He is the leader of a 1 person cult, and she is his devotee. She is so stupid and can get another man but she likes the drama and he will hurt her bad or kill her. She is the only woman who cannot seem to break free of him and they don't have kids as far as I know, why does she keep coming back and you're right, she will have to make a choice, either new management or Dre and her dumb ass will pick Dre, watch. Didn't someone on here say Clive gave Whitney the same choice about Bobby, and she made the right choice.
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              1. 3/28/2008 11:51 AM chebella wrote:
                He's a sociopath and those types will do and say anything for you to fall into their trap. He doesn't care about her at all, only himself. She is really co-dependent and needs psychological help. I hope she reaches out for help in a sincere way before it's too late.
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                1. 3/29/2008 12:24 PM poppy wrote:
                  Damn's obviously got some strange hold on this crazy dude that we on this board just don't and probably won't ever understand. Ladies, until you learn how 2 love yourself, no man will they way he should.
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                  1. 3/30/2008 9:27 AM cocoalatte wrote:
                    Its Dawns marriage , so its Dawns choice.When she grows tired of being sick and tired perhaps she will then sever the ties for good.
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  • 3/27/2008 8:31 PM Anonymous wrote:
    i don't mean no harm but vanessa is a dead woman walking. if kobe tried to get rid of that chick in colorado, he sure as hell will not let vanessa walk away with half of his money when he truly gets tired of his marriage. or when she gets tired, but she will probably try to hang in due to the clout of being married to an athelete.

    a few years from now, vanessa will have an unfortunate accident.
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    1. 3/27/2008 8:33 PM Anonymous wrote:
      WOW!!!
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    2. 3/27/2008 8:53 PM Deanna wrote:
      Damn!
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    3. 3/27/2008 9:32 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
      Honey, if this is not evidence that Kobe is tired of the marriage already, I don't know what is. Like Dre Allen, he sleeps with everyone but his wife and he did not sign Vanessa to a prenup. Kobe has to be a viral man, a wife, wifey, jumpoff and mistress and porn girl. He don't want Vanessa.
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      1. 3/27/2008 11:02 PM Deanna wrote:
        So, Sable, you think there is some truth to this Kobe trying to off his wife business???

        Is this why he is seemingly the answer to almost every NBA BI that comes through here? Is PR trying to warn someone indirectly?????


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        1. 3/28/2008 6:34 AM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
          The Gorgeous one will type this little tidbit before she does her morning stretches, Deanna, just between me and you, whispering. I heard Kobe has 3 kids outside of his marriage with different women. Be back later darlings, this is getting good. May get some gourmet popcorn (the most expensive on the market I may add) when I come back to post.
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          1. 3/28/2008 9:20 AM Trinity wrote:
            Lawd this child do not believe in condoms...it will soon catch up to him if it hasn't already
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            1. 3/28/2008 9:23 AM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
              Denzel Washington is another one who hates condoms, outright refuses to wear them.
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            2. 3/28/2008 9:37 AM eyeonu2 wrote:
              Trinity get out of my head. I asked the same thing a couple of hours ago.
              Denzel too? With as many women as he is reported to have bed? That is disturbing on another level. It's one thing to be "sexually expressive" but to play Russian Roulette" with your health is just plain dumb.
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              1. 3/28/2008 10:24 AM Deanna wrote:
                Agreed!

                Just based on the law of averages, these 2 "sexually expressive" guys have something. Couldn't tell you what, but something.
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                1. 3/28/2008 10:53 AM eyeonu2 wrote:
                  Hey Deanna, based on the law of averages and don't forget reasoning and deduction- their wives and anyone their wives may have been in contact with would be included and like tht shampoo commercial from way back when...and so on and so on and so on. Rampant and pervasive ignorant decisions.
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                  1. 3/28/2008 11:05 AM Deanna wrote:
                    SMH...horrible. And a rubber would help prevent some of it (not all but some). Shame. Oh well.
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                    1. 3/28/2008 11:09 AM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
                      Denzel relies on women to take birth control and the blue room at the house of blues is where male stars do their dirt with groupies in the audience their rep scopes out when they are performing or watching a performance. Some big names have been through that room and Jack Nicholson is so filthy, after he is done, he always asks the women, are you going to brag to your friends that you have star cum in you. He is not as active anymore because he is so damn old but the blue pills kept him going for a minute.
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                      1. 3/28/2008 11:11 AM Deanna wrote:
                        That was a horrible visual you planted in my head about Jack Nicholson. Barf!
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                    2. 3/28/2008 11:12 AM Paris wrote:
                      Oh yeah, we forgot to mention on the front page, the PR newsletters were sent out today and a few of the pkgs have a bonus, complimentary books from Myra and Karen (Harlem Godfather) are enclosed.
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                      1. 3/28/2008 11:17 AM Deanna wrote:

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          2. 3/28/2008 10:53 AM Karamelbella wrote:
            Hello & Whoa GS...and everyone...I had to pick my face up when I read this...wow....
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        2. 3/28/2008 6:50 AM GORGEOUS SABLE wrote:
          Kobe is treacherous and look how his bodyguard went down and the excerpts from that book makes us see another side of Kobe and look how he tried to sell Shaq out. I heard Ray Allen hates him. He has issues and should not have married that girl but I think her family pushed for it. He is obviously not happily married. How much sex can one person have, how many kids and households can one man have? This man is very busy. I remember when he gave this one party and everyone black celebrity from ny to la was there and it was obvious, he has a communication problem. He just kind of sat at a distant and stared. Beverly Peele was there trying to get his attention, didn't work and all the Wayans were there and everybody else you can think of. He never gave another party after that as far as I know.
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          1. 3/28/2008 7:17 AM eyeonu2 wrote:
            Sending G.Sable a cyber gallon of Chicago Mix Garretts popcorn, ordering a mini mix for myself. Wow 3 kids by 3 different women plus the 2 from the wife. Wow- does anyone use protection???
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            1. 3/28/2008 11:34 AM SheKnows wrote:
              Hey Eyeonu2, Yes Garrett's is the bomb ! Chicago is definitely famous for it's pizza and popcorn... I live in Evergreen Park, but will not hesitste to drive down town when feening for that popcorn.
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              1. 3/28/2008 12:47 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
                Well you can't send G. Sable anything less could you? I had the one from NY that Oprah recommended and it was good but I preferred Garrets. I am very fortunate, my sister works downtown and we have a standing agreement. When I need my fix, she brings it to me and I reciprocate with a home made cake. Works real well bec parking around those locations is usually a real beast!!!But well worth the drive!I even send it as a corporate gift to out of towners. I just wish I could convince their marketing team to expand beyond downtown. They would clean up with a location in @ airport and some of the burbs.
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              2. 3/28/2008 1:05 PM RTMFQ wrote:
                Have you tried Let's Get Poppin on 117th & Western? They are good too.
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              3. 3/28/2008 1:11 PM SouthnDiva wrote:
                Okay, I LOVE popcorn! I have heard of Garrett's. I need to research and see if they have a website or could ship to other parts of the US!
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                1. 3/28/2008 1:23 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
                  Indeed I have tried them bec my loving moma told me they were just as good. I don't think so but I give them love because they are black owned and the location is easily accessible. Also they will work with you when doing fundraising.
                  Yes Garretts has a website. The cost of the popcorn isn't expensive it's the damn shipping. If you try it, get the quickest ship because you want it as fresh as possible. I always get carmel/cheese mixed and just so you know- it freezes perfectly. And no I am not affliated with them in any manner it's just a great product.
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                  1. 3/28/2008 1:29 PM SouthnDiva wrote:
                    Oooo THANKS! I will try them out! Glad to know it freezes also! I love caramel and chocolate...may sound too sweet but if it is the dark chocolate, it is the bomb!
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                    1. 3/28/2008 1:35 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
                      Let me know what you think. I don't recall chocolate on the menu but I have limited vison with them. I know that other popular place in NY has chocolate and lots of other different flavors. It was listed as one 1 of Harpo's favorites 1 year on her show...
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                2. 3/28/2008 6:31 PM V wrote:
                  I was born and raised in Chicago, but now live in the South. I order from their website whenever I need my fix. The web address is http://www.garrettpopcorn.com/
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                  1. 3/30/2008 9:48 AM cocoalatte wrote:
                    thanks for that link I will be checking out what they have. I have never heard of them(not from Chitown)but you all make it sound so good
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              4. 3/28/2008 9:18 PM BlessedWoman wrote:
                SheKnows it's getting hot up in here! but I cant find your post to respond to it, but all is well on my end.
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          2. 3/28/2008 7:27 AM Kay wrote:
            I don't think Kobe really cared to get married to Vanessa. I've read in a very, very, very old blind item that it was actually her family who pushed for the marriage. I read that her family threatened to have Kobe in jail if he didn't marry her, because she was a minor around the time they met. It seemed like a sort of Elvis Presley/Priscilla type of arrangement, because he was with her when she was 14, and she moved into his mansion, went to school, and he then married her when she was legal. SHot gun wedding.

            Plus he was up and coming, so the last thing he needed was scandal in his NBA career. He probably recents her now. Plus he took care of her family, and distance himself from his own. She knows what her situation is. That's why she's real insecure about black women. Karma is a bitch, ain't it Vanessa!
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          3. 3/28/2008 7:35 AM Nubian wrote:
            Kobe is a loner.Grew up in Italy where is old man was playing ball at the time.Eventually moved back to Lower Merion(philly suburb) for his teenage years.Playing playground ball you could tell he wasn't used to hangin' with the brothas during that time in his life.In other words he may of been playing with them but wasn't one of them.Hell,how many black teenagers in philly could speak fluent italian.
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          4. 3/28/2008 9:37 AM cia wrote:
            ive posted this in another thread but kobe sounds just like the main character in a book that came out last year(fiction) called 'M.V.P.'
            the main character was a basketball obsessed anti-social who was the #1 player on the #1 team in the nba. all he cared about was basketball and sex. his folks bought him up like that and isolated him from other kids so he had zero social skills. when around other people he couldnt communicate or seemed "off" but everyone covered for him because he was the man.
            in the end he ended up strangling a chick to death "accidently" while having sex with her. throughout the whole book i kept thinking kobe is that you??
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            1. 3/28/2008 9:40 AM cia wrote:
              its also funny that the main characters dad in this book was a former basketball player and like kobes dad never made it to the nba, mainly because of his attitude.
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              1. 3/28/2008 10:18 AM Bingo wrote:
                Actually Joe "Jellybean" Bryant played in the NBA from 1975-1983.
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              2. 3/28/2008 10:24 AM Nubian wrote:
                "like kobes dad never made it to the nba"

                Actually,Joe "Jellybean" Bryant played for my home town team..Sixers back in the mid seventies.Got traded in '79 to the San Diego Clippers.

                His Bio.....
                "Bryant was drafted in the first round by the Golden State Warriors in 1975. Before the season started, though, he was dealt to his hometown team, the Philadelphia 76ers, with whom he played for four seasons. Bryant headed back to the west coast when he was traded by the 76ers[2] to the San Diego Clippers, for whom he played from 1980-82.

                After a final NBA season with the Houston Rockets in 1983, Bryant headed to Europe, playing seven seasons in Italy's A1 and A2 clubs in Rieti (1984-86), Reggio Calabria (1986-87), Pistoia (1987-89) and Reggio Emilia (1989-91). He twice had 53-point games with Pistoia in the 1987-88 season."
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            2. 3/28/2008 10:34 AM Deanna wrote:
              Dang, sounds like this book was "loosely" based on Kobe's life, with certain aspects changed to deflect a tad.

              I have heard, quite often and for quite some time, I might add, the following words to describe him: loner, off, quiet, keeps to himself, distant, hard to get along with, etc.

              Hopefully Kobe's life doesn't play out like that, but it's not sounding good for him on this board.
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              1. 3/28/2008 11:48 AM Jennifer wrote:
                Kobe has similiar personality traits that serial killers have. That's pretty scary. Women should stay away from him but they won't.
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                1. 3/29/2008 9:17 AM kelolo wrote:
                  He just seems so damn weird to me.He reminds me of my little brother.
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          5. 3/28/2008 12:05 PM chebella wrote:
            Even though Kobe has millions he needs to watch out. He could end of losing it all if he keeps making babies. Also his endorsements dried up after the rape charge (which I think was true) so the money is not coming in like it used to. Kobe could end up bankrupt like Jason Caffey.

            Jason Caffey had a $35 million contract with the Bucks and is filing for bankruptcy - he has about 9 kids outside of this marriage. I know someone who was close to him and all the baby mamas were strippers looking to get paid. They all got a car and child support. I swear he had a standard contract drawn up. Just fill in the blanks for the name of the stipper and payment amounts and type of car. He was real dumb and so was his wife for staying with him. You would think after one or two kids you would figure it out. It would have been cheaper for him to get a vasectomy. Now he's broke.

            On the other end of the spectrum, I heard Ray Allen is extremely good with managing his money and doesn't rely on agents and managers who take a cut.

            I also heard about Michael Jordan's outside kids a few years ago. When Juanita filed for divorce the first time the tabloids had a field day and then all of the sudden they got clamped down. So his fixer must have taken care of it. He's still got his Hanes commercials so his image is still marketable but it's true his public image is far from how he is in real life. Alot of people would probably be disappointed.

            Myra - please reach into your files and do more sports BIs! This one was really juicy.
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            1. 3/28/2008 12:19 PM Deanna wrote:
              I hear that Kobe has certain clauses in his contract with the Lakers that give him control of certain aspects of his career. It has something to do with him deciding when and if he will be traded, among other things.

              I would tell you what they are but I honestly can't remember AND my source has gone fishing (literally). LOL!
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            2. 3/28/2008 12:44 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
              chebella, you are so right, it was a player on the 49ers, named Roger, anyway, women were in and out of headquarters demanding to be paid for the outside children they had by him and remember shawn kemp, 6 kids, 7 women, out of the NBA. And Calvin Murphy had like 11 or 12. And Kunta Kinte talking Shannon Sharp has kids by different women. I heard one of Jordan's outside kids was by a anchorwoman and another was by a white and I don't know who the third was by. Ray Allen and Grant Hill are big into stocks and have been featured in the Robb Report, they handle their business and don't believe in hanging out with deadweight friends and posse's. And they don't have kids all over the place. They say for every NBA player who does not have a kid, the next one has two. SMH.
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              1. 3/28/2008 12:49 PM SouthnDiva wrote:
                I always got good vibes about Grant Hill. That is good to know he is more into creating a better life for his family than "spraying" his sperm all throughtout America! Why make all these kids and you know you aren't going to be in there lives full time and most of these guys don't have the money for child support or if they do, they aren't trying to pay it!
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                1. 3/29/2008 7:48 AM SheKnows wrote:
                  SouthNDiva, Hey Girl ! Yeah, I agree Grant Hill seems like a nice guy that REALLY loves his wife (Tamia) and kids. I am so glad to hear a positive story on someone in the NBA. Actually, it's good to hear something positive every once in a while.
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                  1. 3/29/2008 8:25 PM SouthnDiva wrote:
                    SheKnows, Hey Lady! I know, I really like him and Tamia together.
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                  2. 3/30/2008 4:17 PM Gne wrote:
                    Grant Hill grew up in Reston, Va and attended public school. He played ball at South Lakes High School (played on the team with one of my relatives). His father, Calvin, attended Yale University, & was an All-Pro player for the Dallas Cowboys. The family moved to Washington, D.C. when Hill's father was traded to the Redskins. Janet, his mother is an attorney and Vice President of Alexander & Assoc, Inc., a corporate consulting firm in Washington, D.C. She provides corporate planning, advice and analyses to corporations in the areas of human resource planning, corporate responsibility, corporate communications and government consultation. She attended Wellesley College where she shared a suite of rooms with Hillary Rodham Clinton. Grant says he was never comfortable with his privileged position in life. "I've always just wanted to blend in and be like everybody else. I just wanted to be a down-to-earth guy and have my own identity." So Hill seldom mentioned that he was Calvin Hill's son. At home, Hill was under strict rules set out by his parents, including no phone calls until the weekend, and then only one a day.

                    Hill played soccer and basketball. His father refused to allow him to play football until high school, but by then, Hill was dedicated to basketball. His father hoped Hill would go to the University of North Carolina, and his mother was counting on nearby Georgetown University. Hill chose Duke University.
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              2. 3/28/2008 12:56 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
                Maybe that's a different angle that we as a group might enjoy also, BI's about good guys/ girls in entertainment also. That would definetely make me want to support their endeavors. Good gossip is still gossip.
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                1. 3/28/2008 2:37 PM Trebonique wrote:
                  eyeonu2 I agree.

                  But, I am guessing the bad stories are to shed light on people who perpetrate a fraud.

                  Back to lurk mode
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                  1. 3/28/2008 2:51 PM Sterling wrote:
                    Unfortunately, scandal outsells. Nice BI's would not be considered juicy enough and nice ones would be considered boring by the majority. People seem to like the juice, the scandal, the bombshell including myself. IMO.
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        3. 3/28/2008 11:40 AM chebella wrote:
          If her days are numbered I hope Vanessa doesn't fly commercial. I would get off the plane if I saw her on it - it may go down "accidentally" so Kobe won't get any blame. LOL
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      2. 3/28/2008 6:50 AM MochaMom wrote:
        And all of this while steady acting like he is so above the "common" NBA ballers.
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        1. 3/28/2008 6:57 AM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
          Hi Mocha Mom, waving, yes, reminds me of spitzer, so above everyone in politics and was one blue pill popping mack daddy. Another tranny looking hooker just came out and said, her escort agency also got a lot of money out of Spitzer. Like Kobe, sexing everyone but his wife.
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          1. 3/28/2008 7:30 AM anonymous1 wrote:
            I am not condoning Spitzer's behavior.
            He was effective against the businesses et cetera. That is exactly why we know about his "business". Too bad he didn't have the common sense to stay away from the ladies of the evening.
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          2. 3/28/2008 10:56 AM MochaMom wrote:
            Hi,GS. Ur kidding...another one? So, what do u think the problems are with these men? Why marry these women if they don't provide them with what they need? It's enough freaky women and freaky men out there for them to play and stay in their own playground.
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      3. 3/28/2008 7:27 AM anonymous1 wrote:
        Well, when they first broke his relationship with Vanessa. My thoughts were; GEEZ, she looks cheap.

        Wasn't he threatened with exposures (statutory rape) if he didn't stay with her?

        I don't think he would have married her had he not been forced to.

        By the way, does ANYONE like KOBE?
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      4. 3/28/2008 9:23 PM Misha wrote:
        Gorgeous Sable, why is it then, that these 'viral men' do not want their wives? What is the point of having Vanessa there? Surely they must have sex now and then. I'm trying to understand the psyche of these ballers.
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  • 3/27/2008 8:33 PM Myra's BFF wrote:
    Eyeonyou2, not Blexican. That's new to me. Can I use this as my new catch phrase? Is this like the new version of Caliblansaisn? You're too much.
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    1. 3/27/2008 8:47 PM kelolo wrote:
      My father is a "blaxican".Not new to me,I hear it all the time.
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    2. 3/27/2008 8:49 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
      I didn't coin it but run with it. You have me cracking up in here too!
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  • 3/27/2008 8:34 PM dee wrote:
    stupid black stars including Nia long
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    1. 3/27/2008 8:58 PM Diamonds4Angels wrote:
      Wow!! Where did that come from & why?!
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      1. 3/27/2008 9:40 PM chuckles wrote:
        for real!! It's just outta the blue!
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        1. 3/28/2008 10:32 AM PinkSilk wrote:
          uhm yeah... what they said, lol. where did that comment come from???
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    2. 3/28/2008 4:14 AM CrazyTalk wrote:
      Nia, stop trying to get us to talk about you! We're talking about Kobe now. You're old news.............
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      1. 3/28/2008 8:08 AM GossipGirl wrote:
        That was too funny! I'm about to spit out my starbucks. lol Leave Nia alooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnneeee (in the voice of the crazy youtube Britney fan)
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  • 3/27/2008 8:36 PM ownlimee wrote:
    Um, whats the difference between a wife, wifey, and jumpoff? Can anybody answer that?
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    1. 3/27/2008 8:40 PM Anonymous wrote:
      Depends on who you ask. A wife is legal. A wifey is maybe someone close that a guy respects a little but not married to. A jumpoff is just for sex.
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    2. 3/27/2008 8:40 PM Anonymous wrote:
      jumpoff=a person who engages in casual sex

      wife and wifey are interchangable. wifey is just a slang term.
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      1. 3/28/2008 4:11 AM Monetallday wrote:
        A wifey is also a woman that a man looks at as more than a girlfriend but is not legally married to... they have more respect than jump-offs.
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    3. 3/28/2008 8:38 AM Peaches wrote:
      To put it into today's BI terms, here's an example using Kobe:
      wife - Vanessa
      legally married, so she has a legit financial claim to him
      wifey - the pretty black girl who's a doctor (I believe)
      His mistress that he cares for above any other, reaps more financial gifts and perks than any one besides the wife.
      Jumpoff - any woman in any city he can sleep with (esp. Dallas & Houston according to my fellow PR peeps!)
      She is nothing more than sex. PERIOD.
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      1. 3/28/2008 9:06 AM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
        Peaches, class break down, hilarious and on point, Gorgeous Sable throws her naturally wavy hair back and howls with laughter. His black wifey had all the NBA players getting whip lash checking her out at All Star, you are right, she is either a doctor or a top paid official, she makes bank and has masters or PHD. Why fool around with a married man when you have this much going for you? I don't care if it is Kobe Bryant.
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        1. 3/28/2008 11:01 AM Oya wrote:
          Good afternoon GS!! I always look forward to hearing your (and Madison Rae's) insight! Are there any links with pictures of Kobe's black wifey that you can direct me to?
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          1. 3/28/2008 11:21 AM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
            Thank you oya, love your screename
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  • 3/27/2008 8:39 PM Myra's BFF wrote:
    Anon 8:31.... Maybe when the time comes, Kobe can hook up with Eddie Murphy's fixer and they can discuss how to assist Vanessa to the nearest balcony in having the same "unfortunate accident" as that tranny. Just a thought.
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  • 3/27/2008 8:43 PM Myra's BFF wrote:
    Ownlimee, in regards to a baller having a wife, a wifey and a jumpoff, I think the difference in the three is dumb, dumber and dumbest.
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    1. 3/27/2008 9:03 PM Diamonds4Angels wrote:
      LMAO!!!! Man I just spit water all over my Fujitsu on that one!!!
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    2. 3/27/2008 9:39 PM Madison Rae wrote:
      These ballers are just nasty, remember the blind item about the NBA player who gave girls herpes and claymadia at the same time. But this doesn't stop stupid women from getting with them. Gold diggers and groupies don't care.
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      1. 3/28/2008 8:46 AM SouthnDiva wrote:
        Wasn't that Juwon (sp) Howard?
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        1. 3/28/2008 10:11 AM Trinity wrote:
          no, jason kidd
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          1. 3/28/2008 5:21 PM SouthnDiva wrote:
            Thanks Trinity!
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    3. 3/28/2008 4:16 AM CrazyTalk wrote:
      Amen!
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  • 3/27/2008 8:44 PM BlessedWoman wrote:
    The West Coast guy could be Kobe, but the East Coast folk are still a little fuzzy for now.
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  • 3/27/2008 8:52 PM SouthnDiva wrote:
    I will go with Kobe for the West Coast, East Coast, I have no clue! Good BI, I will be back in the morning on this one! Good night all!
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  • 3/27/2008 8:59 PM Presidential wrote:
    EAST COAST BALLERS: PAUL PIERECE AND ANTOINE WALKER
    (were teammates, Walker was traded to Miami, then Minnesota)
    2nd Guess: Two of the Detroit Pistons

    WEST COAST BALLERS: Im thinking that this swinging event was in LA or Vegas. According to this site, a lot of the celebrities that we think wouldnt be caught dead at an event like this apparently dont care. I guess thats the "in" thing. Its sounds like Kobe, but I dont think it is. Oh well.
    My guess for this one is: Kobe and Shaq
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    1. 3/27/2008 9:03 PM Anonymous wrote:
      At one time when Karl Malone played with the Lakers, Kobe accused him of flirting with Vanessa.
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      1. 3/27/2008 9:07 PM Presidential wrote:
        I remember that! But by then Karl was gonna call it quits and wasnt traded.
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      2. 3/27/2008 9:08 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
        I thgt I read from 1 or more insiders on this board that Vanessa made that up to make Kobe jealous?A lot of Kobe ish has been discussed her from various jumpoffs, to the female that play wifey that he paid to send to school, bought a benz and condo to the legal wife. No one talks about outside kids & kobe & that's what I am witing to find out before I throw my vote behnd him/
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        1. 3/27/2008 9:23 PM Presidential wrote:
          Its high school games like that, that will forever contribute to the mockery of their relationship
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      3. 3/27/2008 9:43 PM Madison Rae wrote:
        Karl Malone is low down and didn't accept his daughter until she became a star basketball player and Vanessa better stay away from him, she might get her ass beat. That mormon police force was a regular at his house.
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        1. 3/27/2008 9:56 PM kelolo wrote:
          I remember his daughter talking about that.Don't she have a twin? She know what's up.She ain't on it.
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          1. 3/28/2008 7:20 AM Jennifer wrote:
            I read an article about Karl Malone's older kids a few years ago so my recollection may not be correct but I think his high school girlfriend had a set of twins, a boy and a girl fathered by him. He hid that from the public for years and the story first came out in one of the tabloids. That is when he admitted he had other kids, before that, he never publicly acknowledged them at all. He was trying to protect his phony image.
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            1. 3/28/2008 7:22 AM Madison Rae wrote:
              I heard when he was informed that his gf was pregnant with twins, he turned around and walked away and never had anything to do with her again and wouldn't take her calls. What a shit hole of a man. Then when one makes something of herself, he all up in her grill.
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              1. 3/28/2008 7:42 AM kelolo wrote:
                She is a sraight up,no chaser kind person though.You could tell by the way she was talking about him,she really does'nt respect him.It was in her tone.She said that there where times when she would see and hear about his childrens' charities,and wonder how he pretending to care so much about kids,but he got kids of his own he ain't even acknowleging.She sees through the bullshit.
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          2. 3/28/2008 9:17 AM anolod wrote:
            Malone has twin girls that both played ball on the same high school team; both are very tall.
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            1. 3/28/2008 9:22 AM Jennifer wrote:
              I knew he had twins but I thought it was a boy and a girl. I read the article a while ago so I am probably wrong.
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              1. 3/29/2008 9:34 PM Yelogirl wrote:
                It is a boy and a girl
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              2. 3/29/2008 9:49 PM lakergirl wrote:
                no, you are correct..the twins are a girl and a boy.
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            2. 3/30/2008 4:18 PM anolod wrote:
              I STAND CORRECTED. THANK YOU GOOD PEOPLE. HAVE A BLESSED DAY.
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  • 3/27/2008 9:06 PM Presidential wrote:
    Sinus pressure is keeping me up, so I will do some investigating. PA ANNOUNCEMENT: All detectives report to NBA.COM to search player transactions over the last couple of years.
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  • 3/27/2008 9:34 PM cocoalatte wrote:
    I have to admit I'm not a huge sports fan! I dont know who the east coast guy is as of yet.I will say that my intial thought for west coast is Koby ,because he appears to be most popular westcoast baller(laker) and due to his endorsements,widely publicized indescretions(the rape accusation) he is known even by those of us who arent necessarily sports fanatic! I can see him cheating up a storm(which has been reported) ,though he trys to act lowkey,and having issue with his wife getting it own! Ill roll with Koby until notted.
    Guess Ill check back tommorow to see what other people think about this blind item and who they think it could be.
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  • 3/27/2008 9:35 PM cre357 wrote:
    Just guesses.......... East Coast wife swap goes to Wade and Shaq, to me niether is really with the wife anymore.
    West Coast i really don't know but the star that was traded maybe is jason kidd.
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    1. 3/27/2008 9:36 PM Madison Rae wrote:
      Wade is no longer with his wife and Shaq is no longer with Shaunie.
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      1. 3/28/2008 6:38 AM GORGEOUS SABLE wrote:
        Maddie, Shaq and Shaunie got together wrong, she was still married with kids. Situations like that never work. Shaq has got so many women, I can't even count. Heard he tried to hook back up with Daphne, the soap actress who plays Valerie on Passions but she wasn't having it and has moved on. I used to see her at the mansion, she was a playmate and a very pretty girl with sparkling eyes, like me, her eyes change color.
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    2. 3/27/2008 9:52 PM Deanna wrote:
      Jason Kidd's teams in the NBA:

      Dallas from 94 to 96
      Phoenix from 96 to 01
      New Jersey from 01 to 08
      Currently playing with Dallas again mid-way thru to 08 season

      It can't be him for the traded west coast player unless we're talking like 10 years ago.
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      1. 3/27/2008 10:02 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
        I don't think it's Jason because once his sores are on display, even orgy folks will go the other way.
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        1. 3/27/2008 10:08 PM kelolo wrote:
          Eww.I think I just threw up in my mouth.
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        2. 3/27/2008 10:10 PM Deanna wrote:
          Even swingers have standards, huh? LMAO!
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        3. 3/28/2008 9:57 AM SouthnDiva wrote:
          Jason Kidd has herpes and trying to participate in orgies?! Yikes!
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  • 3/27/2008 9:35 PM Madison Rae wrote:
    Hey Sable, you know a lot of girls won't get with Kobe because he likes anal over missionary. Some chicks are into that though, so he will never be without but anal is like regular sex to him. That adult girl Sable is talking about is around for that.
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  • 3/27/2008 9:42 PM Trinity wrote:
    East coast team New York(2nd worst record in NBA) player is Stephon Marbury & I believe his buddy is Quentin Richardson
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    1. 3/27/2008 9:45 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
      Not Quentin, he is such a sweetheart, Brandy really fucked up. Such a gentleman. This isn't his scene.
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      1. 3/27/2008 9:49 PM Madison Rae wrote:
        Sable, I heard Q wouldn't even sleep with Karrine and he couldn't deal with Brandy's tantrums and ghetto family and porn king wannabe brother. She always wanted a baller, had one in her grasp and like you said, fucked up big.
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        1. 3/27/2008 9:59 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
          Brandy is such a has been, and that disgusting Ray J tried to holla at me, I just laughed because it was a big time joke to me. I don't get with a man who is shorter than me and gaudy, he is so unattractive and such a wanna be banger, player, pimp daddy. He is such a joke and he thought his car would impress me. Miss Sable kept steppin in her Jimmy's and didn't look back.
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          1. 3/27/2008 10:59 PM BigWin wrote:
            Now, what in the blue cornbread hell could scrawny ass Ray Jackoff do for a real woman like you?

            They don't sell Prada or Jimmy Choo's at Walmart!

            On the serious side... Ray gonna run up the wrong flagpole and get beat down.

            Not everybody in Cali has a sense of humor...
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          2. 3/28/2008 9:04 AM SouthnDiva wrote:
            U go girl! Cuz he is NOT it! LOL!
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        2. 3/28/2008 6:35 AM Peaches wrote:
          Wow, it's cool to hear about a nice ball player (esp. on today's board). Brandy lost, oh well, I hope finds a nice girl.
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        3. 3/28/2008 1:58 PM madd cool bruh in the A from the D! wrote:
          Sable and Madison,

          Longtime lurker, a brotha who read the comments err day, here in atl, wassup wit the Q comments I thought wendy said he was houw u doing wit the trannies? also I think Kobe isnt the BI based on what we know bout the player traded and the fact know one really likes KOBE at all in NBA cus of his attitude.. holla.. oh yea ladies i crack up wit the comments on here and I'm a masc gay dude read this sh**..lolololol
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          1. 3/28/2008 2:44 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
            Hi madd cool bro, welcome, come out of lurking more often. Q is a good cool guy, WW seems like she has a difference of opinion. I have only known Q to be with women but you never know. Thanks for the love darling, blowing you a kiss.
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            1. 3/28/2008 3:53 PM madd cool bruh in the A from the D! wrote:
              Hey Sable,
              yyou know a brotha got madd love for ya, I out the closet on this piece wit ya'll.. Hey its a trip u flowin wit the long beautiful hair and real nails u need to come to ATL and teach these chicks how to do it..lol Hey Sable I got some bombs that are real I can blow up on here u would shocked via my profession and folk i associate wit I had to she first the vibe on here what was really good u got a brotha feeling its cool u and the other ladies on the site!!!!!!! Again thanks for the shout out!
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              1. 3/28/2008 4:26 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
                Hugging madd brotha, darling, now you know Miss Sable loves bombs, anchors aweigh!! LOL, drop it like it's hot, we hold nothing back up in here. Do share darling. Thanks for all the love from the ATL.
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                1. 3/28/2008 4:40 PM madd cool bruh in the A from the D! wrote:
                  Hey Sable,

                  Check it we do that here in ATL but we always puttin it down if from the D..lol Hey Sable, on this topic I dont think its Kobe like i said but I got some info on a few kats ya'll you may know bout professional NBA and other like Chrles Oakley I hope Myra and them dont take me off cus of this dude is off the hook the outside may appear hard this kat be wildin out if u know what i mean, takin and giving! Sable, check this on mary bout to do some work wit that tour and will drop some on that too been readin what they been postin its been hot in herrr..!! lol
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                  1. 3/28/2008 5:57 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
                    Darling, PR has never banned anyone from dishing dirt on the boards, that I know of, fire away, Miss Sable will get you lifetime immunity, wink. We love bombshells around here, fire away!
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                    1. 3/28/2008 6:40 PM madd cool bruh in the A from the D! wrote:
                      iight wink back..
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                  2. 3/28/2008 6:27 PM BlessedWoman wrote:
                    From one southerner to another,

                    Welcome to PR,Brotha go ahead and make yourself at home and dish the dirt.

                    This is what happens when I take a nap, I wake up to company. Lurking is okay, but participation makes it that much better.
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                    1. 3/28/2008 7:01 PM madd cool bruh in the A from the D! wrote:
                      thanks baby!!!!!
                      I see where my slang was too much and folk couldnt understand sorry bout that,was just talkin to ya'll like i speak a brotha here is educated just didnt feel like i had to profile that when we all gettin greasy as WW says..lol Thanks fo the love from u and the beautiful my gurl in my head Sable..lol
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                      1. 3/28/2008 7:28 PM Madison Rae wrote:
                        Not much slang here because most of us are respectful and a lot of us are educated and speak correct english, no knock on you but like Sable said, where is the dirt?
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                        1. 3/28/2008 7:37 PM madd cool bruh in the A from the D! wrote:
                          Madison...
                          Read below i lower, and will make sure a brotha speaks the kings english for ya'll on here my badd..
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              2. 3/29/2008 8:49 AM khaliah wrote:
                What?!!!!!! Splane, Lucy.
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      2. 3/27/2008 9:58 PM Trinity wrote:
        ok, still working on stephon's partner in crime
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  • 3/27/2008 9:48 PM Teina wrote:
    I believe Kobe may have outside kids. PR did a front page story excerpted from Kobe's former bodygaurd's book that alleged (and I'm paraphrasing) that Kobe sent the bodygaurd to some woman's house to give her money and instructed the woman that Kobe didn't want to hear from her again. To me, the implication was that the money was abortion money. However, just b/c you send a woman abortion money, that doesn't mean she actually has the abortion. If Kobe thinks that is how it works, then he does have a messianic complex, and I have a bridge to sale him too.
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    1. 3/27/2008 9:50 PM secrets wrote:
      I will say this and scram, Kobe has a son, and we know vanessa had to girls. Bye, I'm out of here, and I know this for a fact.
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      1. 3/27/2008 9:53 PM Anonymous wrote:
        Alright then. Feel free to give us a little more info if you can.
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      2. 3/27/2008 10:37 PM Anonymous wrote:
        secrets you are right. I did a little research and found out that Kobe has a son name Kobe jr.
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        1. 3/27/2008 10:39 PM Anonymous wrote:
          May not be valid but two posters repeated that he has a son.
          http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060806090343AA0UtsB
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  • 3/27/2008 9:53 PM H-Bomb wrote:
    Kobe is rumored to have a gf in Indiana and his wifey is in Minneapolis, the one he paraded around during all star break, two seasons ago, he was holding her hand out in the open, didn't have a care in the world.
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    1. 3/27/2008 9:54 PM Madison Rae wrote:
      Damn, and this doesn't include the women we know about in L.A.
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      1. 3/27/2008 9:58 PM Deanna wrote:
        I'm willing to bet that he's got a jump-off in Houston, too. If Vince Carter can have a girl here (with his soft self...IMO), Kobe definitely can have one.

        Seems like this city is like their playground. Bobby Jackson seems to stay in the mall, Shaq had a house here at one point (not sure if he still does), and some of the girls here seem very willing and eager to do whatever just so they can have bragging rights.
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        1. 3/27/2008 10:01 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
          Vince Carter from what I hear is way too much for some girls. I heard he will put a hurting on you doing sex because he is no joke and you will be sore for not days, but weeks afterward. He is fine to me, hated to hear he broke up with that black lady doctor.
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          1. 3/27/2008 10:06 PM Deanna wrote:
            Never heard about him sexually.

            I was speaking about his lack of heart on the basketball court.
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          2. 3/27/2008 11:51 PM kelolo wrote:
            Is he the dungeon master on that one BI? It said something about the subject having talent,being a good ball player is a talent,right?
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        2. 3/27/2008 10:05 PM kelolo wrote:
          Deanna,did you see what I said I was told about Texas folks in the last thread?
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          1. 3/27/2008 10:07 PM Deanna wrote:
            Naw, I didn't see it. What did you say?
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            1. 3/27/2008 10:21 PM kelolo wrote:
              Ah,man.I have a friend from Texas.He said there's a saying down there "In Texas,anything goes".There is this mother who has sex with her daughters.Licking each others' chochas and everything.She has group sex with them and their boyfriends.And she don't think there's anything wrong with it.She don't make it no secret.People down there are BANANAS.This is one of many stories he told me about Texans.The woman down there,bruh.I'm a open minded person,and even I'm like, DAMN!
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              1. 3/27/2008 10:25 PM Deanna wrote:
                I can see why that saying is in place from what I've seen and heard about these girls. Craziness.

                And this story about the mother...is she in jail? She's breaking so many different laws! That's insane.
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                1. 3/28/2008 8:19 AM GossipGirl wrote:
                  Deanna I see what you mean about the adundance of jumpoffs. I don't get it... I've heard so many girls brag about doing this player and that player but can't even get a dinner out... They should be embarrased and not bragging! Not everyone in Texas is crazy though...
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                2. 3/28/2008 8:19 AM GossipGirl wrote:
                  Deanna I see what you mean about the adundance of jumpoffs. I don't get it... I've heard so many girls brag about doing this player and that player but can't even get a dinner out... They should be embarrased and not bragging! Not everyone in Texas is crazy though...
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                  1. 3/28/2008 8:33 AM SouthnDiva wrote:
                    Dayum, they don't even get a "Happy Meal!?" Their game is WEAK! LOL!
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              2. 3/28/2008 8:41 AM SouthnDiva wrote:
                Kelolo, you got my mouth hitting the floor! That is CRAZY and just DISGUSTING! She takes being open-minded to a new level!
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              3. 3/28/2008 9:08 AM Nita wrote:
                Kelolo, I believe that woman was of non-color. I was born and raised in Dallas, TX and was raised old school southern belle by my dad who didn't play that.. That is some sick ish but it's definitely not anythg goes in TX. that woman needs a beat down and is seems like some people are just determined to go to hell in a hand-basket... Wasn't it Tracy Chapman that sang the whole world is broke and it can't be fixed.

                Anywho... just had to chime in about the Texas comment.. Texans are very proud.
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                1. 3/28/2008 9:15 AM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
                  So right, I love Texas, this sick shit goes on all over the world, not just in texas and my big win is from texas.
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                2. 3/28/2008 9:22 AM kelolo wrote:
                  I was just stating what the Texan said about the Texans.Don't shoot me.And homegirl was BLACK,I asked him the same question.There is some deranged black folks, too.Please believe that."Crazy" don't have a preference.
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      2. 3/27/2008 10:03 PM kelolo wrote:
        How does he have all this time?He is off the chain!I suprised his dick have'nt fell off.He is really nasty.
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        1. 3/27/2008 10:06 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
          Because NBA players have more free time on their hands than other players.
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          1. 3/27/2008 10:08 PM Deanna wrote:
            That they do. They seem to have a LOT of downtime.
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          2. 3/28/2008 6:26 AM Anonymous wrote:
            What about baseball players like Deter
            Jeter? MS. Sable, spill the beans on him woulda you?
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            1. 3/28/2008 9:30 AM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
              All the Gorgeous One will say is Derek Jeter has another life in Las Vegas.
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              1. 3/28/2008 10:03 AM LinaB wrote:
                Hi All,
                I told u MONTHS AGO that both Jeter and TO have been with and prefer Men!!!!!! I told you that it was well KNOWN before Jeter was promoted as the golden boy of baseball that he would need to quickly gain a playboy image and lots of dates were arranged between him and up and coming actresses which makes the perfect photo opportunity. Lots of people gave examples to the contrary but again it is all smoke and mirrors. Both of these men like women, will hang out with them but the desire is really for a man and not even a tranny will do, they want a manly man.
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                1. 3/28/2008 11:03 AM Sadie wrote:
                  Jeter also has herpes which he gave to Jessica Alba. He occasionally dates Tyson Beckford, and has been seen around NY cozying up to this former male supermodel.
                  He has also been seen around town with Timbaland, who is also rumored to be gay.
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                  1. 3/28/2008 11:06 AM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
                    You know what, Timbaland has always been suspect to me, I figured, Missy was into chicks and he was into guys. A woman just had Tim's baby, perfect cover and I heard about Jeter and Tyson. Mariah is all about publicity stunts, so it makes sense. I also think Tyson was the BI about gay pride. I heard Jeter goes to Las Vegas to do his man dirt, real secret and discreet, after he's done, back to NY.
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                    1. 3/28/2008 11:25 AM eyeonu2 wrote:
                      I read on another site the same thing. Every few months, he flies into Vegas and hooks up with a guy, does his thing and flies out- discreetly. not necessarily the same guy, just a guy because he likes to be with men.
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                    2. 3/28/2008 11:34 AM Deanna wrote:
                      Yeah, Timbaland just seems VERY suspect to me.
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                    3. 3/28/2008 12:27 PM chebella wrote:
                      What about AROD he's suspect too
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                      1. 3/28/2008 12:58 PM Trinity wrote:
                        a-rod has developed a love of trannies
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                        1. 3/28/2008 2:38 PM Deanna wrote:
                          WOW!
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                        2. 3/28/2008 3:40 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
                          Trinity, you better stop playing ghost and come back and spill on A-ROD but if you look at his gangsta wive, she look like a tranny but I hear he cheats on her like crazy.
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                          1. 3/28/2008 7:25 PM Trinity wrote:
                            This was a rumor that broke last year. Since moving to NY he developed a taste for lets say other things - it's suppose to be the reason his wife filed for divorse last yr - I'll see if i can dig that info up again
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                    4. 3/28/2008 12:27 PM SheKnows wrote:
                      Hey Gorgeous One, It was posted some years ago on another board that Timberland get down hard with the fellas and that he's a bottom ??? I wasn't shocked to read that because he always sent my Gayday a-buzzing.
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                  2. 3/28/2008 11:27 AM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
                    Wow Sadie, every other person seems to have herpes in Hollywood. Cash is such a lap dog for Jessica, he tolerates a lot.
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                    1. 3/28/2008 12:26 PM Peaches wrote:
                      See I always thought it was the other way around. I thought he was cheating on her left and right. Interesting...
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                      1. 3/28/2008 1:16 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
                        I read that on other boards as well inc'g that he sometimes sells inside dirt to the tabs about her friends. But I heard she gives him an allowance
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                        1. 3/28/2008 1:21 PM SouthnDiva wrote:
                          WTH!? She gives him an allowance! Now that he is "whipped" and "sad!"
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                          1. 3/28/2008 1:31 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
                            I read it is a common practice that when these ladies make so much more than their producer/director/manager boyfriends/husbands they give them an allowance. Now you know most of the ladies on this board aren't trying to come out of our pockets to pay for a man so you don't have to say anything about that-lol. Any insider hear of this practice?
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                            1. 3/28/2008 1:45 PM SouthnDiva wrote:
                              U just told me something!
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                            2. 3/28/2008 2:40 PM Deanna wrote:
                              I'm not an insider, but I have heard of women who make more money then their men giving them an allowance.

                              But it's no different than men who make more money giving their women an allowance, IMO.
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                              1. 3/28/2008 2:47 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
                                Jessica is real conceited and I see latino girls from east l.a. who look better. That black director bille woodruff kisses her ass and cast her as a black woman in Honey. What a foolish idiot. Bille looks like Tevin and is gay like Tevin.
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                                1. 3/28/2008 2:56 PM Deanna wrote:
                                  I was so not happy about her being cast in Honey. It was a good concept and plot but not with her.
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                                2. 3/28/2008 3:23 PM BlessedWoman wrote:
                                  When I saw the making of Honey, I thought that really was Tevin Campbell. RFLMAO. Damn they look almost like identical twins. WOW!
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                                  1. 3/28/2008 3:38 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
                                    De and Blessed, he is an uncle tom ass kisser. Someone told him to cast Mya, a natural dancer and he refused because he did not want a black woman in the lead, even though the script was written for a black woman since both her parents are black in the movie. The crossover shit failed because it was not authentic. Boyz N The Hood had a all black cast and was a hit and authentic. They showed Bille and Jessica on ET promoting the movie, and that fool kept thanking her, bowing down like a tom. I was like, damn, a gay black woman hating tom. SMH.
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                                    1. 3/28/2008 4:24 PM Maya wrote:
                                      I read that the original lead for "Honey" was supposed to be Aaliyah, but she passed away before filming started...=(
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                                      1. 3/28/2008 4:29 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
                                        It was written for Aaliyah but Bille would not have cast her if she lived (rip) he was determined to cast a non-black woman for the role. The screenwriter wrote it with Aalyiah in mind but Bille the director had another sell out plan. Wouldn't it have been logical, like Nona Gaye replaced Aaliyah in Matrix (and tacky JLO inquired about replacing Aaliyah in the Matrix around the time she died) Bille should have had a black actress for that role.
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                                        1. 3/28/2008 5:19 PM madd cool bruh in the A from the D! wrote:
                                          Hey Sable,

                                          billie is a lady fo real and if I told u bout his uncle tom-ism you trip he is the worst kinda TOM a GAY TOM...lol and this kat fuck alot of dudes in them videos he did.. u would surprised the kats or other hand sable u wouldnt and madison wouldnt....lol
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                                        2. 3/28/2008 6:33 PM BlessedWoman wrote:
                                          I think everyone looking at Honey tried to look at the parents and see Jessica Alba, but couldnt. It wasnt believable. Damn shame that so many people in positions, directors, etc. dont see the need to give AA an opportunity to shine.
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                                      2. 3/28/2008 4:33 PM Deanna wrote:
                                        Aww... Aaliyah would have been perfect.
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                                        1. 3/28/2008 4:53 PM Maya wrote:
                                          Thanks Ms. Gorgeous Sable, I had no idea about Billie and his Uncle Tom ways. I didn't even watch "Honey", it was garbage with Jessica Alba as the lead. And J-Lo should've thought twice before she asked to replace my girl Liyah in Matrix. Are you serious? Nona did a good job though, and I heard she even asked Aaliyah's parents if it was okay if she took the role when it was offered to her. Deanna, you're right, she would've been perfect. I absolutely loved that girl...=(
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                      2. 3/28/2008 1:36 PM Yelogirl wrote:
                        I thought it was the other way around too. I read that she kept nagging Cash to get her an engagement ring. Guess it will be a shotgun wedding
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                    2. 3/28/2008 8:17 PM Sadie wrote:
                      Yes, Gorgeous Sable, many people in Hollywierd do have herpes. I was shocked to find this out, but I really shouldn't be, because with the orgies and sharing partners, it is bound to spread quickly.
                      My problem is why didn't any one tell Jessica, as almost everyone, in the know in NY, knew about Jeter.
                      I guess she doesn't have too many true friends out there. Poor Chick!
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                    3. 3/28/2008 10:21 PM Sadie wrote:
                      Don't sleep on Cash either, He was seen a couple of weeks ago in "HeLL A", with his tongue down Mischa Barton's throat.
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                    4. 3/28/2008 11:50 PM Sadie wrote:
                      Hey, Gorgeous One, I posted a comment below, you may want to check out.
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                  3. 3/28/2008 2:22 PM Yelogirl wrote:
                    Wasn't Jeter using Jessica Biel as a beard a while back. Everyone knows she is a lezzy.
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                    1. 3/28/2008 11:43 PM Sadie wrote:
                      Yes, any woman Jeter dates is his Beard.
                      Jessica Biel didn't catch herpes because she is in "The Life" aka Gay.
                      It is suffice to say, they didn't touch, or should I say, they touched only for the cameras. She was forewarned, unlike Jessica A.
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  • 3/27/2008 10:32 PM lye wrote:
    I'm sick of this stupid double standard. Men can do it, but women can't? I'm not saying two wrongs make a right. But men geez, get over yourself
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  • 3/27/2008 10:45 PM Teina wrote:
    Maybe the trading situation refers to Kobe and Shaq, with Shaq being traded to Orlando. Maybe Vanessa started cheating w/ Shaq for revenge. I vaguely remember the never-ending beef that Kobe and Shaq were having for awhile, and Coach Jackson was trying to mediate to no avail. But I never heard a definitive reason as to why those 2 didn't get along. And then when Kobe's rape allegations arose (I believe Shaq was w/ Orlando by then), something came up about Kobe mistreating a woman at Shaq's house party. Shaq was upset that his name was implicated in that mess, and Shaq hinted that Kobe didn't want Shaq to spill the real deal on Kobe. I'm vaguely remembering something along these lines; maybe somebody else has a more vivid memory or knows the facts.
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    1. 3/27/2008 10:59 PM Deanna wrote:
      I heard the following:

      Shaq & Kobe's problems were due to the fact that Kobe does have an ego and Shaq didn't like having to share the limelight with Kobe. Kobe's rape case came up in '03 and Shaq was traded to Miami for the '03-'04 season. Shaq didn't like that his business was put in the street by Kobe because basically Kobe said that he had agreed-upon sex with the hotel girl and he should have paid her to keep quiet like Shaq does. He said this during a taped interview with the police while he was being questioned. The police, of course, asked him what he meant and he said that Shaq pays girls 6-figures to keep quiet so his affairs don't get out. I don't remember hearing about any mistreatment of a woman at Shaq's house party. They didn't get along; they just played together. So why would Kobe be at Shaq's house party?
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      1. 3/28/2008 7:41 AM anonymous1 wrote:
        You forgot about the "The Slap heard 'round theWorld".

        Two points: SHAQ
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    2. 3/28/2008 7:40 AM anonymous1 wrote:
      Shaq is worth more than Kobe. Players have more respect for him. He is also well liked.

      I am sure he is not perfect, but have never read anything negative about his personality.
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  • 3/27/2008 11:04 PM Anonymous wrote:
    What Does This Mean?
    Garnett trying to get Pierce to watch Swingers with him

    http://www.serioussportsnewsnetwork.com/2008/01/garnett-trying-to-get-pierce-to-watch-swingers-with-him.html
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    1. 3/27/2008 11:15 PM Deanna wrote:
      Swingers is a movie from 1996 starring Vince Vaughn and Jon Favreau.

      http://imdb.com/title/tt0117802/

      Vince Vaughn plays a character named Trent and Jon Favreau plays a character named Mike/Mikey.

      And there is a scene where Trent drives Mike to Vegas from LA to help Mike get over the fact that his girlfriend broke up with him 6 months prior.

      It's actually a really good movie, simple plot, but good. Really a classic in some people eyes.

      And I read that article in the link you provided and it sounds harmless to me. Kinda like dry humor or sarcasm. No big deal.


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  • 3/27/2008 11:09 PM Nubian wrote:
    West Coast...
    1)Kobe...His wife might of slept with Caron Butler.Can't believe she would of slept with Shaq.

    East Coast...
    Stephon Marbury & Jamal Crawford

    Crawford's wife(she has that stripper vibe)...
    http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/5969/65fq.jpg

    Stephon's wife...
    www.filmmagic.com/ItemListing.aspx?cgl=52388...
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    1. 3/27/2008 11:13 PM Deanna wrote:
      Umm, damn, I would say that's more than a vibe, dawg.
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      1. 3/27/2008 11:26 PM kelolo wrote:
        This is actually a good guess.What gentlemens club did he find her?
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    2. 3/27/2008 11:33 PM Trinity wrote:
      Good guesses, what about Penny as Stephon buddy?

      I'm with you on Kobe & Caron Butler
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      1. 3/27/2008 11:46 PM Nubian wrote:
        Not sure how "close" they were when Penny was with the knicks.Keep in mind he's with the miami heat now.

        Only reason I made the connection with Steph & Jamal was because of the funeral coverage of Steph's dad in the NY Times.The article stated that Jamal was his "closest" friend on the team.
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        1. 3/28/2008 12:00 AM Trinity wrote:
          execellent detective work, forgot Penny had gotten traded again....poor penny 'what becomes of a broken hearted'
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          1. 3/28/2008 11:11 AM shortness wrote:
            I use to be sooooooooooo in love with Penny
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            1. 3/28/2008 11:29 AM eyeonu2 wrote:
              Is this my baby sister? My sister's usbany looks like Penny- we were like damn you really tried. She just told me that he has a couple of kids & couple of baby mama and the drama that goes along with. She found out from someone close to the situation that he isn't the man that she dreamed of.
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  • 3/27/2008 11:12 PM Deanna wrote:
    Swingers is a movie from 1996 starring Vince Vaughn and Jon Favreau.

    http://imdb.com/title/tt0117802/

    Vince Vaughn plays a character named Trent and Jon Favreau plays a character named Mike/Mikey.

    And there is a scene where Trent drives Mike to Vegas from LA to help Mike get over the fact that his girlfriend broke up with him 6 months prior.

    It's actually a really good movie, simple plot, but good. Really a classic in some people eyes.

    And I read that article in the link you provided and it sounds harmless to me. Kinda like dry humor or sarcasm. No big deal.


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    1. 3/28/2008 4:10 AM workingactor wrote:
      I love swingers..I moved out here about 2 years before it came out, that was pretty much my life, in that movie..total classic. I was just at the derby 2 weeks ago..
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  • 3/27/2008 11:16 PM lawchick wrote:
    Still on Vacation and catching up during my insomnia. Referring to a thread from a previous blind item. Who ever is judging Heather Hunter, stop it right now!!!! First, Americans are so hung up on sex. If Heather expressed regret about her past, then I might say that I am glad she has moved on, yada yada yada. But, HH hasn't, to my knowledge, expressed regret. So, stop saying, "She's a good person, DESPITE her past." She is a good person PERIOD END OF STORY. I am a lawyer whose firm (and therefore I) specializes in representing the Adult Entertainment industry, First Amendment Constitutional Rights, etc. Everyone has had sex at some point or another under dishonorable circumstances or for dishonorable reasons so all of us are good people DESPITE our pasts. What we need to worry about is people who are exploited, not those who manage and control their own efforts and have no regrets. I guess I am a good person DESPITE the fact that I proudly represent dancers, dominatrixes (damn, spelling issues can really mess up a good rant) and other Adult entertainment professionals. It is amazing to me how many people condemn the profession but you can find them in the adult theater or throwing money on a stage. Sorry. I am just tired of judgmental practices regarding sexual behavior. Let's condemn the people who deserve it, fathers who don't support their children, mothers who run off to Nigeria and leave their kids alone in the house with no food and anyone who hurts a child or an animal (yeah, I am a dog lover too.) Peace
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    1. 3/28/2008 5:55 AM 212121 wrote:
      "Everyone has had sex at some point or another under dishonorable circumstances or for dishonorable reasons so all of us are good people DESPITE our pasts"

      It kills me how you assume everyone has had sex under dishonable reasons. Speak for yourself. Everybody is not makeing porn or selling themselves. Sounds like you have been representing Adult entertainers a little long. Get a grip on reality.
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    2. 3/28/2008 9:10 AM SouthnDiva wrote:
      Lawchick, well stated! Enjoy your vacation!
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    3. 3/28/2008 9:16 AM facepainter wrote:
      @lawchick

      Firstly, I have no problem or issue with Heather Hunter.I don't know her personally so I wouldn't comment on her character.

      "What we need to worry about is people who are exploited, not those who manage and control their own efforts and have no regrets."
      I"m not sure if I believe that people in that business are not exploited.I don't have any friends in the business but from the many documentaries that I have seen I have never heard one of these ladies say that this was a profession they have always dreamed about getting into to. Most stories exposed naive women who had hopes of getting into Hollywood. Or Strippers that were looking for more money etc. Many said they live isolated lives and usually only associate with people within that industry.One porn actress even said how disturbed she was by the fact that she never gets a hug or regular affection. The only touching she experiences usually leads to sex on camera.
      I can't imagine someone working in that industry and not having ANY regrets.But maybe I am the naive one.
      But I totally understand that because of your job you have a different perspective on the industry and its workers.
      I am curious by nature and love different cultures, cities and people. I don't want to judge only try to understand and learn. I think you have so much passion because you have lots of knowledge in this particular field and want others to understand that they are human beings. Thus they should be respected as such.
      Have a good vacation.
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      1. 3/28/2008 9:28 AM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
        HH is a sweetie but I heard of a white girl who came to Hollywood to act, started hanging out with the wrong crowd and was naive, this guy who she thought was her bf, set her up. Spiked her drink and 7 men came and had sex with her and went. He filmed it and sold it to a porn producer. Some kind of way, she heard about the dvd and saw it and committed suicide because she didn't want to shame her family. I agree, we should worry about people who are victims of the sex trade and people being forced to strip and prostitute because HH doesn't seem to have a problem with her career and doesn't make apologies. Other people seem to have more of a problem than her.
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  • 3/28/2008 12:21 AM Trinity wrote:
    Thanks to our nite time detective crew who put in OT on this & we want our time & a half

    East Coast:
    Stephon Marbury & Jamal Crawford

    West Coast:
    freaky ass perverted Kobey & Caron Butler

    see if Paris nots anyone in the AM
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  • 3/28/2008 2:55 AM celebgossip wrote:
    Well damn! I can say this is another great BI! This better than a movie. * Grabbing popcorn and a glass or merlot*
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    1. 3/28/2008 6:09 AM Bullrida wrote:
      ***scooting Celebgossip over*****excuse me, hey I'm bringing the jumbo box of Raisinete's (sp)
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  • 3/28/2008 5:20 AM Hardware36 wrote:
    Yeah for the West coast I'm going with everybody else, hands down to Kid Kobe Bryant. I'm starting to think he has Dr. J and Micheal Jordan's disease he just can't give the extra punany no matter what. Plus he has the spotlight now of being called the best player in the NBA too. Plus I really think his parents messed him up by isolating him and not showing him the real world.
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  • 3/28/2008 6:01 AM foxybrown1972 wrote:
    Good morning everyone:

    Is it just me or are most NBA players disgusting?...sorry.. cant stand all the sleeping around, STDs (which most of them have), etc... and that's why I couldn't deal with them (yes, they have tried to holla)... MY HEALTH IS WORTH MORE THAN ANY MONEY THEY MAKE...

    Anyway:

    East Coast:
    1) Sounds like STEPHON MARBURY (KNICKS) but I dont know who the other may be.. I was going to say STEVE FRANCIS but he is with Houston Rockets again...but I heard that STEPHON was messing with a personal assistant, and it came out when that sexual harrassment fiasco re: ISIAH THOMAS came out.. so stank!.. but STEPHON'S WIFE STILL HUNG AROUND THOUGH.. HMMMM!

    Oh.. Honorable Mention: VINCE CARTER (NETS) and maybe JASON KIDD before he was traded to Dallas Mav.. or it could be VINCE CARTER and RICHARD JEFFERSON (the 'humanitarian') swapping wives.. and again i say HMMMM?

    3) This could also be about DWYANE WADE (MIAMI).. but who did he wife swap with?.. SHAQ (traded to PHOENIX SUNS a couple of months ago).. or JAMES POSEY (traded to BOSTON CELTICS this year/also caught up in some rape scandal in Miami with UDONIS HASLEM that was swept under the rug!)..

    Like I said... STANK!

    WEST COAST:

    1) Sounds like Kobe Bryant/wife with open marriage.. .bcause SHAQ was traded to the HEAT abruptly.. BUT DOES IT SEEM TOO OBVIOUS?!!!.. besides how many kids does KOBE BRYANT have outside of marriage?

    2)This could also be about CHRIS WEBBER (GOLDEN STATE (retired), this could be about ALLEN IVERSON (DENVER).. this could be about many NBA players...

    MY BOTTOM LINE IS: I DONT KNOW .. THIS COULD BE ANY PLAYER.. just throwing angles out there.. Discuss!
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    1. 3/30/2008 10:54 AM inyoguts wrote:
      Hey there foxy. As I said earlier I don't see Kobe having the clout. To get Shaq traded behind some wife swapping??? Can you imagine Shaq and Kobe swapping wives??? They barely tolerated playing with 1 another. However if you want to stick with the Kobe theory the lakers did trade Kwame brown a few months ago. Truth be told Kwame wasnt living up to his expectations, and the trade turned out to be very beneficial to the lakers, so even there it seems like it was more of a business decision and less of a Kobe decision.
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  • 3/28/2008 6:02 AM LinaB wrote:
    Hi All,
    No guesses that differ from all of the ones already here, but I can attest to the fact that lots of the wifeys and jumpoffs are living large in Dallas, Houston and Atlanta. It is so obvious when the players are out and about, the wifey is there ahead of time and chills with his boys. The jumpoff show up a little later and brings her girls. The groupies just crowd around. The Player doesn't mind being seen associating with the Wifey. She is sported publicy, not the jumpoff or groupie. The legal wives are discouraged from traveling alot w/the husband for these reasons. SAD, Women who marry these men are in for alot of Drama.
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    1. 3/28/2008 8:37 AM SouthnDiva wrote:
      Girl you just broke it down! Drama is not all that they are in for, sounds like STD's also! All for what?! To have the title that I am the legal Mrs. Whatever! Not worth it to me!
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      1. 3/28/2008 10:53 AM PinkSilk wrote:
        Didn't she?? She pretty much summed up the whole situation.
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    2. 3/28/2008 11:07 AM Deanna wrote:
      Yes, that was a perfect summary, I must say.

      And that's exactly how it goes down.
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    3. 3/30/2008 9:33 AM cocoalatte wrote:
      Most wifeys to married NBA players are just past or present groupies trying to get on or exgirlfriends who didnt land "the ring" but still stick around for the perrks($$$$) of being with a baller.
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  • 3/28/2008 6:13 AM Bullrida wrote:
    Goodmorning everybody and happy TGIF, not to sure about this BI at all(is that any different than normal)LOL, but the Kobe mess on the west coast sounds good to me. I think that if this is him he should be ashamed even more for himself. What's good for the goose is always even better for the gander. Why are you allowed to cheat or participate in a big orgy and she's left to twiddle her thumbs. NOT FAIR. If it was me, I would have been swinging from the chandelier when he came in the room talking about you can't participate. Boy please!
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  • 3/28/2008 6:45 AM Anonymous wrote:
    is my boy tim duncan true to character?
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    1. 3/28/2008 9:29 AM Trinity wrote:
      that cry baby...how can he swing, he would have to take that pacifier out his mough 1st
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      1. 3/28/2008 10:47 AM Deanna wrote:
        Plus, I could be wrong, but I suspect that "Timmy" plays for his teammates in private just like he does on the court.

        No solid evidence there whatsoever...just a hunch.
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        1. 3/28/2008 12:32 PM Trinity wrote:
          hmmmmm...never got that vibe from him but u never know
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          1. 3/28/2008 2:23 PM Deanna wrote:
            Hey, some times my gage is off.
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  • 3/28/2008 6:45 AM CCBeauty wrote:
    I work in sports and I know for fact that NBA Players from other areas state that Dallas, Houston, are there favorite cities because of the access to beautiful women, who will get with you no matter if you a little name or no name, long as if it is in sports. This is the locker room talk is by several teams that you are guarateed to get laid in Texas on a road trip.
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    1. 3/28/2008 7:08 AM Nubian wrote:
      Hell,Michael Irvin is gonna give Pacman Jones the state tour once he's traded to the Cowboys.
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      1. 3/28/2008 7:24 AM CCBeauty wrote:
        From what I have heard Michael Irvin already has. Pacman was still in DFW last I heard.
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        1. 3/28/2008 7:27 AM H-Bomb wrote:
          I wonder will Irvin take Pacman to the brothel all the dallas cowboys patronize. This black madam runs it and she has the most beautiful girls. Oh yeah, I'm sure Irvin will give him the tour. When Irvin and Deion were playing, they were regulars and practically lived at this brothel. Before they found religion.
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          1. 3/28/2008 7:44 AM LinaB wrote:
            Don't kill the messenger on this one but finding religion did not stop the visitations at all. It stopped the boldness of being out and about as much in certain environments.
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            1. 3/28/2008 7:49 AM H-Bomb wrote:
              I believe you. I was through with Emmett and Deion when they tried to protect and support that minister under T.D. Jakes who was raping and assaulting female churchgoers. T.D. even asked the women to think over the charges before filing a police report and stupid ass Emmett went on TV defending him just because he counseled him and Pat before they married. It was so much evidence against that man, he got convicted for raping and assaulting more than a few members and I heard the women got no support and were oustericzed by the church. SMH. I know Deion's second wife is up to 2-3 kids and the first wife left because of infidelity and it was rumored he got a groupie pregnant. I know they are up to their old tricks and Irvin's wife has been tolerating shit during his playing days and after his playing days. Remember when he went to court on a drug charge and this fool got out of a limo at the courthouse in a full length fur with ice on.
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              1. 3/28/2008 8:04 AM LinaB wrote:
                H-Bomb, not to get too deep but my new position requires me to network across politics, sports and big business in the DFW/Houston area and I have seen first hand how the black pastors are brought and managed with MONEY. The pastors then turnaround and influence their church members to support these politicians who endorse the teams/athletes because they bring big money to Texas.
                My Husband and Father feared for my "safety" when dealing with these types. A lot of stuff I see and hear about I no longer share with them.
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                1. 3/28/2008 8:30 AM SouthnDiva wrote:
                  LinaB, not just with Megachurches either! Our family church is going through a bitter battle because our pastor is trying to sway the congregation to vote for a certain candidate. Some of my family members have stopped attending and stated they won't go back unless he steps down! It is getting crazy!
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                  1. 3/28/2008 10:14 AM LinaB wrote:
                    I tell you it is treacherous, isn't it how Money can easily corrupt weak minded people!
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              2. 3/29/2008 4:33 AM lavender wrote:
                Honestly, I was surprised by the way T.D. Jakes and the gang coddled the meth smoking Horbuckle.This guy was completely off the chain.And when Deion, Emmit, and others supported him openly, I can't really say that I was surprised by their behavior because it's so very typical for them to support the sicko and denounce the lady in need. Bishop Hornbuckle used the date rape drug to subdue female members of his church!I wonder how he is adjusting to prison life, what are his days like in the pen? These pastors are something else!smdh
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          2. 3/28/2008 7:47 AM CCBeauty wrote:
            I am pretty sure Irvin will show him some Southern Hospitality. The DFW stippers better take some self defense classes right now .
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  • 3/28/2008 6:46 AM H-Bomb wrote:
    OT: Someone just told me that Judge Mathis declined to join the Detroit mayor's defense team as a legal consultant because he thinks he should resign so Detroit can heal and Mathis said he believes in due process. Kwame needs to get off his homeboy ego and step down.
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    1. 3/28/2008 8:03 AM Peaches wrote:
      Good for Judge Mathis! There is no defense to lying to an entire city. He was in great position as a young black man to revitalize Detroit and boost his political stock. I don't know what strides he has made for Detroit during his time of office, but at his age, he had time ahead of him to go far. Wasted opportunity.
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    2. 3/28/2008 8:50 AM SouthnDiva wrote:
      Judge Mathis is someone that I believe can't be bought or TOLD what to do! He is right, Detroit needs to heal and Kwame has done alot of crap that hasn't brought Detroit into a good light. I can't say that I blame him. I believe in due process also but he needs to sit down somewhere and learn from his mistakes. I think he believes he is above the law!
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  • 3/28/2008 7:05 AM H-Bomb wrote:
    That guy who tried to blackmail A.I. was one of his homeboys, lol. He must have witnessed some lowdown shit and wanted to out it. What a dummy. When will these ballers stop traveling in packs with these Negro's who pretend to be friends but are jealous as hell, just ask Vick about it.
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  • 3/28/2008 7:08 AM anonymous1 wrote:
    West coast: KOBE!
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  • 3/28/2008 7:18 AM Miss D wrote:
    To anonymous above who asked about Tim Duncan. I believe he is true to character. During the All Star weekend, while most of the players stayed at the Sheraton, he chose to stay at Loews', to avoid all the "extra" stuff that comes when there is a star studded event.
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    1. 3/28/2008 7:21 AM H-Bomb wrote:
      I know someone who knows Duncan and said he was determined to marry a white woman when he made it in the NBA, a big desire. My friend said, it was like a programmed mission for him.
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      1. 3/28/2008 7:47 AM Nubian wrote:
        Seems to be the typical attitude from these west indies brothas(David Ortiz,Sammy Sosa).BTW,Tim is from Christiansted, St. Croix, United States Virgin Islands
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        1. 3/28/2008 8:28 AM Trinidad, Bermuda, St Croix, Suriname, and I could Contiue..... wrote:
          No it is not the typical West Indian attitude. Lots of Caribbean men love African American woman. This is only typical for self hating black men and that includes just as many American Blacks as Caribbean! Charles Barkley and so many others...............
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          1. 3/28/2008 8:54 AM Nubian wrote:
            Well said!!
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          2. 3/28/2008 3:04 PM GOLDEN wrote:
            DITTO!
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          3. 3/28/2008 3:17 PM GORGEOUS SABLE wrote:
            Charles Barkley is such a minstrel, his mother and grandmother raised him, where was daddy but you have so much hatred for black women. I will date someone like Angelica racist schemer Bridges and let downtown julie brown act as your pimp and set you up with more white women. I have no words for none of these people.
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            1. 3/28/2008 3:19 PM GORGEOUS SABLE wrote:
              TYPO, MEANT TO SAY, HE WILL DATE SOMEONE LIKE NOT I WILL DATE SOMEONE LIKE.
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            2. 3/28/2008 8:30 PM BlessedWoman wrote:
              Sable,
              You mention Downtown Julie Brown and I remember seeing her on the Ananda show when it was on, she had to judge a fine men's contest or something like that. I just remember there being one black guy that was built like The Rock, all others were white, but she kept turning her nose up at the black guy in a disgusting way. I felt it was unprofessional of her to make that look, so many times, on television, but then I don't know what she's doing now anyways.
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              1. 3/29/2008 7:26 AM SheKnows wrote:
                Blessed Woman,I heard that she's another poster child for self-hatred. And her name Downtown Julie Brown fits her just fine... I heard she likes to go downtown (get my drift).
                I heard she was not bisexual but try-sexual will try anything (LOL). She likes the ladies and gets down hard too.
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              2. 3/29/2008 9:04 AM kelolo wrote:
                And speaking of Ananda,did you see what she was wearing on the Keyshia Cole reunion show? UGH.My niece was like "Why is she wearing that?" Her breast was hanging out of her shirt.Not a good look.She looked stank.There is something really gutterbutt about her.
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                1. 4/1/2008 11:16 AM BlessedWoman wrote:
                  Kelolo,
                  I was thinking the same thing about those clothes, but then again, I was thinking, her breasts were so small that it really didnt matter. LMAO
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            3. 3/28/2008 8:51 PM lavender wrote:
              Yeah, Sable!If he dated that Neo Nazi, skinhead, "racist schemer" trick, he needs to be ashamed of himself. That horrible scutbucket had an innocent woman attacked and maimed for life. And, any loser that will support a demented psycho like the schemer , needs psychological evaluation also. A disgrace! Most of the time, those women have jealousy issues against black women anyway.
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            4. 3/30/2008 9:58 AM cocoalatte wrote:
              I could never stand Barkley! He is too damn arrogant for me.
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      2. 3/28/2008 12:48 PM shortness wrote:
        Sounds like the answer to another BI.
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        1. 3/28/2008 7:06 PM shortness wrote:
          Damn. Sometimes we hone in on one person and think we have solved a BI and we are so wrong (I think we guessed someone else)!!! Thanks Madi and Sable!
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  • 3/28/2008 7:27 AM Miss D wrote:
    H-Bomb: I heard the same thing. From what "they" say, he has never had time for black women.
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    1. 3/28/2008 7:52 AM LinaB wrote:
      Well, I can say that there have been a few black women in his past but I will say that they are the biracial/mixed type. In my circle several people say his wife is actually Domnican, not Caucasian???
      I have also heard that Tim is really laid back and not the party animal/groupie type.
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  • 3/28/2008 7:37 AM Paris wrote:
    Off topic: Yesterday's book giveaway of Harlem Godfather netted over hundreds of requests. Therefore, the publisher is going to send over additional copies for another giveaway and I still have your requests via email. Check back on the front page when the next giveaway will take place. Also, more than likely we will have a concert ticket giveaway for the Stone Soul Picnic on Memorial Day in the bay area, featuring: Chaka Khan, Frankie Beverly & Maze, The Whispers & Ledesi. We will keep you posted on this as well.
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    1. 3/28/2008 8:31 AM The Mayor Of Panache Report wrote:
      Good Morning Paris,
      How are you??
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      1. 3/28/2008 11:17 AM Paris wrote:
        Good morning Charles or afternoon.
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    2. 3/30/2008 1:15 PM Stam Bag Fan wrote:
      I can't wait! That sounds like a great concert. Every time I hear Maze it makes me start craving BBQ
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  • 3/28/2008 8:33 AM eyeonu2 wrote:
    O/T barack is on the view putting it down with eloquence.
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    1. 3/28/2008 10:31 AM Bingo wrote:
      As usual.
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  • 3/28/2008 8:44 AM eyeonu2 wrote:
    O/T barack is on the view putting it down with eloquence.
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    1. 3/28/2008 9:41 AM Anonymous wrote:
      Am, I the only one that can see George Dubya in front of his plasma screen with his My First Dictionary on lap trying to decipher Obama's big words LOL
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      1. 3/28/2008 10:27 AM Bingo wrote:
        Dubya owns a dictionary?
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        1. 3/28/2008 10:41 AM Anonymous wrote:
          LOL Bingo,
          I meant PICTIONARY...he has CONDI on speed dial for the alphabet sequence LOL
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  • 3/28/2008 9:06 AM lioness wrote:
    I know about about a few ballers, not by choice . Iverson is one , although sweet nice guy , his wife is one silly cookie. How does she stay in the house all day while hubby does who knows what . If i was her , i would be going on vacation , taking my kids with me , because they would be homeschooled. Imagine , you have one main teacher who travels , and what ever country / city you are in you bring in other teachers which specialize in that locale to teach the history of that particular place.
    someone said above these people need new hobbies , and i agree. In and out flip it up down and sideways with this one and that one , doesn't one start to feel violated with all these different energies. Not good for the soul .

    In other news

    So new wendy rumor has it that she is going to be suspended from wbls ?? It makes sense if Nicole truly filed this complaint with the E.E.O.C. This is not a good look , and I doubt it was done for publicity . Deffinitly , no talk means they are trying to spin it . I doubt Nicole is full out lying , and someone here put the link to the court transcript , I read it ... If they felt nicole was too ambitious , why didn't they just get rid of her i/o trying to break her . I am sorry , i know power , and i know what it does to you , it can make you a very ugly person . It also would make sense that he beat her , perhaps her giving advice to other abusers " run as fast as you can " was a cry for help ? Perhaps she was to vested in the relationship ? the way she talks about others it helps to have a rough mean husband to keep ambitious people who might try to take a swipe in check .... While i litterally cannot stand to listen to her foolishness , i truly feel bad if she is being abused , and wish her luck in dealing with her personal demons
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    1. 3/29/2008 7:03 PM lawchick wrote:
      I always thought Big Kev had a sadistic side. I think he did exactly what Nicole says he did but I hope Wendy gets help. Even women with strong personalities in public can suffer abuse. WW is the industry by which BIG Kev survives and prospers and we all know abuse is about control.
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  • 3/28/2008 9:08 AM lioness wrote:
    I know about about a few ballers, not by choice . although sweet nice guy , his wife is one silly cookie. How does she stay in the house all day while hubby does who knows what . If i was her , i would be going on vacation , taking my kids with me , because they would be homeschooled. Imagine , you have one main teacher who travels , and what ever country / city you are in you bring in other teachers which specialize in that locale to teach the history of that particular place.
    someone said above these people need new hobbies , and i agree. In and out flip it up down and sideways with this one and that one , doesn't one start to feel violated with all these different energies. Not good for the soul .

    In other news

    So new wendy rumor has it that she is going to be suspended from wbls ?? It makes sense if Nicole truly filed this complaint with the E.E.O.C. This is not a good look , and I doubt it was done for publicity . Deffinitly , no talk means they are trying to spin it . I doubt Nicole is full out lying , and someone here put the link to the court transcript , I read it ... If they felt nicole was too ambitious , why didn't they just get rid of her i/o trying to break her . I am sorry , i know power , and i know what it does to you , it can make you a very ugly person . It also would make sense that he beat her , perhaps her giving advice to other abusers " run as fast as you can " was a cry for help ? Perhaps she was to vested in the relationship ? the way she talks about others it helps to have a rough mean husband to keep ambitious people who might try to take a swipe in check .... While i litterally cannot stand to listen to her foolishness , i truly feel bad if she is being abused , and wish her luck in dealing with her personal demons
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    1. 3/28/2008 11:38 AM SheKnows wrote:
      Hey Lioness, How are you doing ? About Wendy, what happened over there ? I see a couple of people posted but nothing really telling what happened ? I don't know what's what ? I will do some digging though...
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      1. 3/28/2008 11:49 AM Bingo wrote:
        A friend just told me, the last few days, the tone of her show has changed. It's become as dry as toast, basically. She's also been getting these overly sugary calls of support from supposed listeners that sound to my friend to be orchestrated. Another interesting tidbit: Vinny Brown the GM and Program Manager vanished about two weeks ago. Nothing has been said about his sudden disappearance. The mystery deepens. The plot thickens. *cue spooky music* LOL
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        1. 3/28/2008 12:22 PM SheKnows wrote:
          Hey Bingo, Yeah the plot does thicken... If the allegations I have read are true concerning Wendy's husband this will really make HER look bad.Because she LOVES to put others on Full-Blast about their infidelities and some times will say their names... Also, when I read her book she said that Kevin had actually cheated on her before... Yes, the plot thickens... However, I don't wish anyone to be publicly humiliated and for anyone to be hurt...
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          1. 3/28/2008 3:42 PM N.Y. wrote:
            Sheknows, I heard big kev his a big ho and is always looking to hookup for sex and he spends wendy's money on other women, ugliest kept man i ever saw. He is a rough neck thug. Don't know if he beats her but I think that girl may be telling the truth with Kev's rep.
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    2. 3/28/2008 11:52 AM SheKnows wrote:
      Hey Lioness, Disregard that post. I am putting the pieces together (I think)...
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      1. 3/28/2008 1:22 PM lioness wrote:
        What's up she knows and bingo!!!!!

        Karma is a b.....!!! but wendy is smart , she can spin this easily , just get a fixer to fix her husband problem , then announce on air and on the tv show the truth ," I got into something i could not get out of , it happens to the best of us , so when callers were telling me about the abuse , if i could help them i would , because i myself was a victim " and yada yada... I listened to the end of her show the other day and you are right Bingo ( love that name ) she was dry and miserable .
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        1. 3/28/2008 1:32 PM Bingo wrote:
          She's going to have to spin like a top to get past this mess. WBLS has take a lot of responsibilty for this because they should have nipped this in the bud long ago. Big Kev is banned from the building now. This is like closing the barn door after the horses have run off. Because Wendy is a big money maker, they sat on their hands. Will people ever learn? These hostile workplace situations will always come back to bite you in the butt. I was surprised that Nicole still works there. I'd assumed she'd gotten a new job. The fact she's still there speaks volumes to her credibility as far as I'm concerned. It indicates that the situation became hellish for her.
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          1. 3/28/2008 1:40 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
            Also shows strength. She obviously wasn't intimidated which also lends credence to her claims. I pray that thug does not try to physically harm her. An abuser is an abuser.
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          2. 3/28/2008 1:52 PM M wrote:
            My only question is: why didn't she approach WW about her husband first before filing a complaint and taking legal action. She was close with Wendy.

            P.S. I had first hand experience with Big Kev. A total sleaze. And not surprised with the allegations.
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            1. 3/29/2008 8:49 AM ms coleman wrote:
              M-Maybe she did tell Wendy. Maybe that's why she got the initial cold shoulder from Wendy before she had to take it to the bosses over there at WBLS. Just a thought.....
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          3. 3/28/2008 2:32 PM lioness wrote:
            i agree with you bingo ! Nicole took a big chance to come out , usually this is career suicide . A few years ago a client stiffed us for a lot of money ( to me ) , but in nyc , with a 500 dollar an hour lawyer , and that fact that most of the six figure settlement would go to the lawyer , it did not make sense to sue , also because of the third party clients involved ( large brand names ) , there is not a day that goes by that i do not miss that money . It is amazing how true the saying is that " life is not fair ."
            To M , you need to read the transcript , apparently wendy wanted her to sleep with the husband , she knew this was going on ?!
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            1. 3/28/2008 4:37 PM SheKnows(myship) wrote:
              Hey Lioness, you have just dropped a major bomb ??? Wendy wanted her to sleep with him. It's getting real ugly. Wendy is smart, and knows what to say for damage control. I think it will still bite her in the butt, her many haters will call in and have a field day. But, I can't wait to see how she swims out of this sewer...
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  • 3/28/2008 9:21 AM cat4everrr wrote:
    good grief we got a hot one today...lol
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  • 3/28/2008 9:33 AM mark wrote:
    people this is dwanye wade and shaq
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  • 3/28/2008 9:34 AM mark wrote:
    people this is dwanye wade and shaq
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  • 3/28/2008 9:59 AM Golden Girl wrote:
    Happy everyone, Happy Friday! Just lurking on this one, I have no clue.
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    1. 3/28/2008 2:25 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
      Hey Golden Girl- I don't know who this is either but the other conversations are so lively I couldn't stay away-LOL
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  • 3/28/2008 10:07 AM Ms.I Had No Idea wrote:
    Could Kevin Garnett and his wife be one of the couples in the blind items swapping mates?
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  • 3/28/2008 10:22 AM ms coleman wrote:
    Hello All! In serious lurk mode today. Too may fires at work to put out plus my allergies are killing me today. Everyone have a great weekend!!!
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    1. 3/28/2008 10:26 AM Charles wrote:
      Hope you feel better Ms Coleman. Have a great weekend!
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    2. 3/28/2008 1:02 PM MochaMom wrote:
      You too, Ms. Coleman. I keep having this dream that I am doing morning stretches in Juicy Couture jogging suit, then I come back drink a mimosa(of course with none other than the best champagne available in the US), then I get dressed, throw on my Jimmy Choo's and I'm off to the Ivy for lunch. Then someone comes by and brings me more work and I realize my mimosa is a cup of Taster's Choice, my Juicy Couture jogging suit is really from a Express and The Ivy is more like Applebees. Oh and the big one..my name is MochaMom and not Gorgeous Sable. LOL! I see you GS. LOL!
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  • 3/28/2008 10:55 AM EllaElle wrote:
    SouthnDiva wrote:
    LinaB, not just with Megachurches either! Our family church is going through a bitter battle because our pastor is trying to sway the congregation to vote for a certain candidate. Some of my family members have stopped attending and stated they won't go back unless he steps down! It is getting crazy!

    Not BWCAR is it?? Just curious...
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    1. 3/28/2008 12:42 PM SouthnDiva wrote:
      Elle, girl it is Clinton! He even brought some of her paraphanelia into church trying to get them to take them home! LOL! Some of the trustees are stating that because of our denomination we could get in trouble with the association. I am NOT involved in any of it because it doesn't matter what the pastor says, I will vote for whomever I please! But my family is into politics/ensuring folks vote and they ain't feeling him right now!
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      1. 3/28/2008 2:42 PM EllaElle wrote:
        Whoa... I didn't know that! I knew he was her campaign manager for SC and although some don't like the fact of mixing politics with religion... I respected him for, what I thought, was not trying to mix the two. I just started going there so I'm not as involved or know what's going on. Him stepping down isn't something I'm gonna hold my breath on...
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  • 3/28/2008 11:42 AM Bingo wrote:
    @eyeonu2- Did you see Joy try hard to stifle a laugh when Obama asked the idiot child, what if somebody took the 5 stupidest things you ever said and put them on a DVD? You know she was thinking to herself, how could they whittle it down to five.
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    1. 3/28/2008 12:53 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
      I like Joy & Whoppee most on that show. Did you hear how she said she wasn't offended by Rev. Wright's comments about Italians? How Ms.E. stays on is a testament to the times. They have to keep one blonde for the rest of America. Half of the time I don't believe SHE believes the ish that comes out of her mouth.
      Did you see how he lavished praise on his wife. I like the image we see from him.
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      1. 3/28/2008 3:15 PM Anonymous wrote:
        elizabeth lives in a vacuum. she lucked up most her life, and i don't believe for one minute that she knows what hard work is. 'survivor' doesn't count.

        she better pray to the 'Most High' that her husband stays away from scandal because he is a pro athlete. although he's not much of a player.

        i'm almost certain she is a "miss plantation anne" who cry and lie at the same time.
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        1. 3/28/2008 10:44 PM S Epatha Lurkerson wrote:
          You are so right! I can't stand people who haven't been through anything in life pontificating about this, that and the other. Let life hang its large foot in your @ss and your opinions won't be quite so harsh and judgmental. And I know she hates that her hubby's brother is the real star athlete in the family.
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      2. 3/28/2008 4:58 PM Bingo wrote:
        Even if it's a bottle blond, huh? *winks*
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        1. 3/28/2008 5:11 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
          Bought boobs, bottled blondes and botox- un huh
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  • 3/28/2008 12:30 PM Miss D wrote:
    If the second part of the B.I. isn't Kobe (and I know that it won't be confirmed if it is; only notted if it isn't), could the West Coast player have gotten the player traded when he (the subject of the B.I.) was a player on the East Coast?
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  • 3/28/2008 12:41 PM Nubian wrote:
    OT: Richard Jefferson,Cutino Mobley & Steve Francis....

    Anybody(insiders especially)else heard if these three are on the DL? BTW...the word was Francis & Mobley might of been more than just "friends".Steve acted like he lost his girlfriend when Cuttino got traded from Orlando to Sacramento in '05.
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    1. 3/28/2008 12:48 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
      Heard of a DL tape cover up with trannys, I also heard Reggie Theus got traded and blackballed after he was caught banging a owner's daughter. Theus has always been broke. Be back after lunch darlings.
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      1. 3/28/2008 1:09 PM Nubian wrote:
        One of them(RJ,SF,CM) had DL tape? LOL!


        "I also heard Reggie Theus got traded and blackballed after he was caught banging a owner's daughter"...

        LOL,I wonder was it Ted Turner's daughter back when he played with the Atlanta Hawks.
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      2. 3/28/2008 2:15 PM Deanna wrote:
        I am SO not surprised about the DL tape with trannys!
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      3. 3/29/2008 1:11 AM Jenkies wrote:
        Hey Gorgeous Sable, do you have any real dirt re: Reggie Theus?
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        1. 3/29/2008 1:20 AM Jenkies wrote:
          I'm turning in but I'll check in 2 morrow. Maybe with some Theus info too. Nite all!
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    2. 3/28/2008 1:20 PM Bingo wrote:
      Chiiiile how Stevie carried on! He got all Scarlett O'Hara and shit. LOL He took on a permanent pout. I'm sorry but Cuttino wasn't that good a player. The Rockets were more than capable of getting by without him.
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      1. 3/28/2008 2:12 PM Deanna wrote:
        I've been clowning Stevie ever since he had that public outburst. So classically hilarious!

        And someone mentioned Cuttino being pictured with toe nail polish on. Well, I swear I saw him on BET maybe 6 months after their split/trade and he was wearing glitter lip gloss. I'll put money on that! His lips were glistening like fresh morning dew.
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        1. 3/28/2008 3:00 PM Bingo wrote:
          LMAO!!! "like fresh morning dew"
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        2. 3/29/2008 9:30 PM Yelogirl wrote:
          There is definately a pic of him wearing some kind of lip gloss that was on mediatakeout. I googled cuttino mobley and gay and it was the first link that popped up.
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    3. 3/28/2008 1:56 PM GossipGirl wrote:
      I always got the 'how you doin' vibe from Cuttino when he was here. He was also photographed wearing toenail polish...

      As far as Steve I don't know. I know several girls/ groupies that have been with him but we all know that means nothing. Now what I have heard is that he is quite 'rough' in the sack...
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    4. 3/28/2008 2:10 PM Deanna wrote:
      I haven't heard about Richard Jefferson, but I HAVE heard about Stevie Franchis and Cutino Mobley multiple times. Plus the vibe I get the few times I've seen them out and about was not the type of vibe that would attract girls.

      I'm just saying...if your instincts are trying to tell you something, 9 times out of 10 your instincts are right. And my instincts said they were a couple before Stevie had his public outburst in the media when him and his man-friend Mobley were split due to the trade and, frankly, anyone can look at Steve and his performance in the NBA and see that he hasn't been right since the split.

      I mean, he was borderline before the split, but he has been all types of not-right since the break.
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      1. 3/28/2008 3:05 PM Bingo wrote:
        I've heard about Richard Jefferson. How you doin', Richie! He and Derek Jeter are good friends. I'm not saying...I'm just saying. Supposedly, Richard came out to his family a year or so ago.
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  • 3/28/2008 12:43 PM flyy girl wrote:
    tracey mc grady had derrick anderson traded from houston to miami, tracey is a known cheater and derrick told his wife about his road trips..... derrick and wifey had been messing around a minute, tracey found out because his wife knew details on the road only a teammate would know, he went to van gundy and derrick anderson was gone the next week..... out of now where. i know this because my friend was a cheerleader for the rockets, was also sleeping with derrick anderson at the time..
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    1. 3/28/2008 10:44 PM Deanna wrote:
      I so believe this!!!!
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  • 3/28/2008 1:01 PM OrangeKat wrote:
    Hi there!!I was in serious lurk mode and this is one time where i wished i kept up with the NBA.i used to be a "true"fan back in the day.
    ESPN recently ran an excellent documentary "Black Magic"...regarding the early days of b-ball and the racism many of our legends encountered.Must see TV.
    My BI guess: Kobe B for the West Coast.Those loser Knicks:Stephon Marbury and Jamel Crawford
    Sidebar: Wendy Williams-the previous poster is right...the show is tedious and dry.Yesterday they interviewed another "sloppy" baller...4kids and 4baby-mommas...i had to cheat and listen to Michael B for a minute.To clarify: Vinnie Brown,GM-WBLS...known to WW since 4ever abruptly resigned at the beginning of the year.According to mainstream media,WW renewed her contract.Her producers are still not happy campers due to sub-standard equipment and crappy work environment.
    Yes Bingo...the plot thickens and are we the only ones on the case?Waiting for the other shoe to drop!I'm still convinced that there's an element of truth in Nicole's allegations and WW words will come back to haunt her...karma is a B@#ch!
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  • 3/28/2008 1:11 PM Hidoll wrote:
    My goodness if theirs any truth to Sammy Davis Jr having any lust for that gross,nasty ass Linda Lovelace I have lost some respect for him. Not just because of bad taste but to force Ms. Altovis to be in the company of a woman with a lifestyle just to satisfy his sexual lust says he had no respect for his wife or marriage.

    But Altovis is no angel in this either she could and should have put a foot down with a lot more force in not allowing him to disrespect her like that.
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    1. 3/28/2008 1:15 PM SouthnDiva wrote:
      I am convinced that Altovise thought she was getting something! He left her debt and she is still paying for all his unwise financial endeavors. I really don't think that alot of black women were checking for SDJ anyway!
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      1. 3/28/2008 1:19 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
        LMAO- true so true. I believe just what you said as well. She enjoyed being the MRS. & thought she was going to inherit millions instead she just inherited the debt. It would seem like she should be able to get something off his image, her bio etc to get some cash flow.
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        1. 3/28/2008 1:24 PM SouthnDiva wrote:
          She is getting taken there also! I heard some folks were trying to go around her to get his biopic put out there without her approval, permission, etc. Have you noticed, you don't hear much about her nowadays? When SDJ first passed, she was everywhere speaking about him and his legacy and then his debt.
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          1. 3/28/2008 1:37 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
            Well I hope someone is helping her along. He had issues, doesn't everyone, but he still left a legency of entertainment.
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            1. 3/28/2008 2:01 PM SouthnDiva wrote:
              That he did! Won't take ANYTHING away from the talent he had...
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              1. 3/28/2008 2:14 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
                Celebs are quick to say the blogs are awful but in all honesty, a lot of good info is posted on various threads that could help save a lot of them from a lot of pitfalls.
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      2. 3/28/2008 1:25 PM Bingo wrote:
        Sammy was a drug-addled, drunken freak. He had a lot of issues, most of them color related. I think Sinatra, if I'm not mistaken, took care of Altovise's debt problems. I wonder what ever happened to her.
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        1. 3/28/2008 2:33 PM SOUL TRAIN wrote:
          Last I heard she went back to her hometown and was working as a waitress for a time. Sammy was so in debt to the IRS when he died, she accumulated that debt since they filed together, after his death.
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    2. 3/28/2008 2:36 PM Reppin The Bay wrote:
      It's true, not only that, Rev. Cecil Williams and his wife were rumored to hook up with Sammy when he came to the bay for swinger type parties. This Linda Lovelace stuff is true, he was sprung on her, even back then, black media reported it but him and Big Al worked everything out.
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  • 3/28/2008 1:29 PM hunnyluv78 wrote:
    Sorry if i repeat things already said above (i'm at work and just had to get on!) but i was watching a tyra show episode, where the christie's were on there, and there was a wife of a bball star saying that her husband tells her about who he deals with and she doesn't mind. i wish i could remember who it was.
    !!!!oh i wish i was a sky villa insider!!!
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  • 3/28/2008 1:37 PM Bullrida wrote:
    Have a great weekend everybody!!!!
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    1. 3/28/2008 1:41 PM SouthnDiva wrote:
      Same to u Bullrida!
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  • 3/28/2008 1:56 PM Smoking Aces wrote:
    East Coast: I'm guessing Richard Jefferson, but not sure who the other player is.

    West Coast: First let me say that the Kobe "bodyguard" book is nothing but fiction. Patrick Graber was never Kobe's bodyguard, he's the guy who tried to get money to kill her. Kobe's camp turned him in to the police. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/2003-09-18-brant-threat_x.htm

    The Colorado court that tried the Kobe pre-trial, publishes court documents on their website. So some of us who followed the trial saw most of the docs, even the ones that were accidently published by the county clerk. To sum things up, Kobe was clearly innocent based on the evidence. The pre-trial judge himself put the DA on blast and told him he had no case. The DA, like the Duke attoney, was up for re-election and that's why he pushed this case in lily white Eagle County. The DNA test on Faber's underwear showed THREE different people(she spent more time in mental hospitals than Britney & Lohan combined, because she was so out of control). One was Kobe, the other two were the bellboy and her BF, both of whom were the only witnesses she had. Her boss at the hotel said she looked fine when she clocked out, and the room where Kobe supposedly raped her, had TWO doors, so she could have easily left(she claimed Kobe blocked the hallway door). No neighbors to the room heard anything, and Faber admitted that she "mis-remebered" some of her scenario when they didn't match the evidence, in other words...she lied.

    Frankly I could go on and on about the stuff I read in those court documents, or the fact that Faber accused her Father of rape(a false claim), and how rape shield laws prevented Kobe's lawyers from exposing this. Just hope and pray your brother or son never gets accused by a White women, because it cost Kobe millions just to get off a bogus case that Stevie Wonder could see was made up.

    As for the West player who got someone traded.....Steve Nash fits the blind. He's known outside of basketball, Shawn Marion got traded mid-season and there was alot of bad blood between the two that nobody ever understood. The Shaq trade didn't really makes alot of sense.
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    1. 3/28/2008 2:39 PM Yelogirl wrote:
      No one ever said he was the bodyguard. It was implied that he was Kobe's fixer. So the public wouldn't have known he was empolyed by Kobe. In fact, in the book, he referred to himself as a "discreet bodyguard". Secondly, Kobe's camp turned on him and he became the fall guy after he seemingly tried to blackmail Kobe for millions; hence Garber's arrest
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      1. 3/28/2008 2:49 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
        That bodyguard guy also said he believed Kobe raped that girl because of his sexual tastes, read it on another site. Even if she slept with 10 men, no one deserves to be raped, including HH in the back of her limo. Kobe is a piece of work.
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        1. 3/28/2008 2:56 PM Trebonique wrote:
          Sable, Dropping hints huh
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          1. 3/28/2008 3:13 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
            Hi Tre, hints? The guy in back of HH's limo was a singer, not a athlete. Hollywood is so off the chain, scandal every week.
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            1. 3/28/2008 3:27 PM Trebonique wrote:
              Okay... I was reading between the wrong lines.

              I am waiting many names in here are informative so I keep my eyes and ears open at all times.
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        2. 3/28/2008 4:04 PM Smoking Aces wrote:
          I agree with you on this. No woman deserves to be rape, and any guy who does it deserves to get the John Bobbitt treatment.

          That said though, no guy should be falsely accused either. Faber had pulled this before on multiple people(even in her family), which is why there was a huge fuss over rape shield laws during the trial. She left Kobe's room, clocked out, and looked fine to everyone, didn't say a thing to anybody. She even slept with her BF that night AFTER the supposed rape. That's why the DA wanted the rape kit throw out of evidence(Never heard of a DA not wanting the rape kit included in a trial, LOL). The people at her job said she went out of her way to show Kobe his room, even though it wasn't during her work hours. Keep in mind, I think the whole thing was tragic. Faber was in and out of mental hospitals. She was clearly unstable, and had told friends that she wanted a big payday. If she were Black and pulled this on a White star, the case would have been laughed out of court.

          As for Graber, dude's a clown. He told more ducktales than Disney, from being in the Russian Mafia, to a champion body builder, lol. Trust, dude is not Jason Bourne.
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          1. 3/28/2008 4:27 PM Anonymous wrote:
            then why is he not being sued by kobe?
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            1. 3/28/2008 5:35 PM Smoking Aces wrote:
              He's not being sued because Kobe wants this whole thing to be over with. The court case cost him millions, so why sue Graber(who's broke) for pennies, when it will only give this guy the attention he seeks.
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              1. 3/28/2008 5:44 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
                Regardless, if anyone is slandering my name, they will good sued. Weak excuse. Lies about orgies, adult stars, infidelity, I would sue them in a hot minute and anyone else with any sense. These type of lies would affect his endorsement which is part of his livilihood, slam dunk for slander if it is false so it must be true.
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                1. 3/28/2008 6:02 PM Smoking Aces wrote:
                  Sable, I lurk here, and love your insights. But on this one, you're wrong. Kobe's been trying rebuild his image ever since the allegations. The LAST thing he should do is sue. By sueing, he would put a national spotlight on this clown(which WOULD hurt his endorsements), when right now hardly anyone even knows Graber's book exists.
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                  1. 3/28/2008 9:24 PM Trinity wrote:
                    what about the other incidents involving Kobey & women call the police...they were making it up too
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          2. 3/28/2008 4:30 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
            Great question anonymous, if Graber is such a clown and a liar, why hasn't Kobe sued him for libel and slander. Are you another rep?
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            1. 3/28/2008 4:34 PM Deanna wrote:
              This is true. And Kobe has enough money to stop this book from being sold. It's available on Amazon right now because I looked it up earlier today.
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          3. 3/29/2008 8:27 AM KingKaine wrote:
            I agree. Graber is a straight up liar, and it amazes me how many times his book is referenced as though its fact. Truth is, I have a mother and a daughter, and if Kobe did rape that girl, then he should be put under the jail, but I'm not taking Gruber's word for it. As far as him shutting the book down, maybe he just wants the issue to go away, I have no clue, but if I had tried to get someone to commit murder 4 me, the last thing I would do is turn them in to the police
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        3. 3/28/2008 4:52 PM SheKnows(myship) wrote:
          Exactly, it amazes me how some people feel that if you're promiscuous you deserve any old treatment, including rape ? If that's how someone gets done, it's their choice.You're in control and are giving it away ? But, with rape it's being taken from you no one wants to be over-powered... Every dog has their day. Kobe better keep fixers on his payroll before he ends up in prison as somebody's________.
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  • 3/28/2008 2:14 PM Eris wrote:
    More on Marilyn Monroe and Joan Crawford: A few years back Playboy, in a questionable display of ethics (but Hef loves his Marilyn), published private therapy/confession tapes Marilyn had recorded for her psychotherapist in which she confessed to a bathroom tryst that went past groping with Ms. Crawford. Don't remember the exact details. More interesting, for me at least, and tragic, was that Marilyn wasn't able to, please excuse my bluntness, peak for much of her adult life. A reflection of her objectification and the way she was used by others. Her greatest regret was that she was never able to share that with Joe DiMaggio, the love of her life. He wanted a stay at home wife, and that just wasn't in the cards for Ms. M. But until the end, he left weekly flowers on her grave and said while dying (his biography reports) that he would be with Marilyn again soon.
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    1. 3/28/2008 2:39 PM lioness wrote:
      Interesting , did you ever read the book about the photographer who first found her ??? he was hungarian , died in the eighties , and people rummaged through his apartment and found his notes? Taschen published this book . M was not so innocent , she knew what she was doing , she wanted fame and she got it ! It is just it wasn't the way she imagined! She saw greener pastures ( drama ) and unfortunately her career was already written . They don't talk about it much , but she HAD A LOT OF MINOR PLASTIC SURGERY PROCEDURES. The studios invested in her , and she had to play out thier movie of her life on thier terms , and she was fine with that as the casting couches can testify too.. I don't feel sorry for her .
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      1. 3/28/2008 3:07 PM Eris wrote:
        I hadn't heard about the minor plastic surgery procedures but would believe it in a New York minute. And as for the rest, as my gay uncle says, there's a reasons there are so many gays and people on the DL in Hollywood, the ministry, and politics. Stardom with its mass affirmation from others is a validation game for the deeply insecure. She definitely slept around for advantage, but she also tried all of her life to better herself in mind and spirit and not just bankroll. And what a nasty piece of work Eugene O'Neil proved to be.
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      2. 3/28/2008 3:49 PM Hidoll wrote:
        I've heard many negative tales on Ms. Norma Jean aka Marilyn Monroe & part of it was she wasn't innocent she's had many surgeries one being she had 11 toes and had one removed.

        It has also been said that she had a miscarriage when she was married to either Joe or the writer. And she was very familiar with the casting couch
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    2. 3/28/2008 3:10 PM Bingo wrote:
      Perhaps he continued to leave flowers for her out of guilt. He used to go upside Marilyn's head.
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      1. 3/28/2008 3:15 PM SOUL TRAIN wrote:
        Joe would not let any of her Hollywood friends like Sammy or Peter Lawford come to the funeral, we know the Kennedys were not coming, he had Sammy stopped from entering the church. I also heard he used to beat her and that he was a mean man.
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        1. 3/29/2008 12:19 AM Jenkies wrote:
          I heard that Joe D was racist. Interesting that MM was supportive & black friendly.
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      2. 3/28/2008 3:26 PM Yelogirl wrote:
        It doesnt matter how much he tried to beat her, you can't turn a hoe into a housewife. Sorry. I guess he realized that AFTER the fact.
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        1. 3/28/2008 3:35 PM SOUL TRAIN wrote:
          It was still wrong for him to beat her, he knew what she was when he married her. MM also pestered Kennedy to do more for blacks and civil rights. Regardless of what she was, she was a human being first. When did they start allowing the word ho on PR?
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          1. 3/28/2008 4:45 PM Sheknows wrote:
            Hey SoulTrain, You're absolutely right...Joe was rumored to beat Marilyn because he couldn't control her. Joe was very angry at that famous photo she took with the white dress blowing up in the wind, because her panties were showing.
            Also, Marilyn even though she was out there, was very black-friendly. She loved Ella Fitzgerald and Sammy Davis. I heard that once a Club wouldn't allow Ella to sing and Marilyn talked with the owners and got it straigtened out. Marilyn and her friends seated at the table were a major DRAW for others/patrons and they threatened to leave if Ella wasn't treated respectfully.
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            1. 3/28/2008 5:41 PM SOUL TRAIN wrote:
              So true, I read on here that Marilyn knew that Sammy Davis was into photography and told him to take as many photos of her as possible because they would be worth a fortune down the road and she was right. I read a book about a gay guy who loved hanging with Marilyn and Jayne Mansfield and he said Marilyn went out of her way to be friendly to blacks and to try and help them out.
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          2. 3/29/2008 8:56 AM Anonymous wrote:
            Hey Soul Train,
            I wasn't condoning Dimaggio beating MM, I was simply implying that he was trying to "beat her straight", and hence it would do no good. I only referincing the word hoe in a popular saying, and not directly calling her a hoe. That is why it may have been allowed sweetie.
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            1. 3/29/2008 8:59 AM Yelogril wrote:
              I forgot to put my name above. But that was my comment
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        2. 3/28/2008 5:40 PM cocoalatte wrote:
          Marylin Monroe did no more or less than most other hollywood starlets! She used what she had "looks" to get what she wanted "fame &fortune".Most of these hollywood actresses (old and new hollywood have used the casting couch to advance ,whether they admit it or not! I dont condone it ,but its true!
          She was no saint, she had her issues. I will always believe that she was killed ,and did not commit suicide as stated ,because she knew too much!Alot of the men who considered hera whore wer whoremongers their d*amn self sleeping around with any and everyone willing to spread their legs! The men in hollywood are no better than the women.
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          1. 3/28/2008 7:47 PM SheKnows(myship) wrote:
            Hey Cocoa, I never believed that she committed suicide. Marilyn was rumored to be making threats to tell things she knew about POWERFUL men she had slept with. Marilyn was also dealing with mobsters, and when she began to run her mouth she murdered ?... I also believe that Anna Nicole Smith was murdered along with her son. That was just way too coincidental. Howard Stern was probably a plant...
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            1. 3/28/2008 8:08 PM SheKnows wrote:
              I meant she was murdered, sorry for the Typo.
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            2. 3/28/2008 8:43 PM Hidoll wrote:
              My husband says that Marilyn Monroe did not commit suicide the way they claim. He said she did the ONE thing you DO NOT DO when your dealing with the mobsters and that is you NEVER EVER treaten to tell.

              He said what happen was some men paid her a visit and gave her a heroin enema and thats how it was done.

              I believe that Anna Nicole Smith and her son were both murdered. Something is being covered, because the woman who was in the room with her is said to be a nurse said that Anna was un resposive so she THE NURSE calls her husband and says that Anna has passed out then he tells her THE NURSE what to do now if she's a nurse then why did she need to call her husband when as a nurse she'd know what to do?

              Theres more to this story and the ones who know the truth are not talking and two are dead.
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              1. 3/28/2008 9:09 PM Trebonique wrote:
                Hidoll I sooo agree with you.. I was watching a documentary about Anna Nicole's life and a portion of the film was about Daniel. He was at an amusement park with Howard and he looked sick and out of breath I was thinking why is a boy so young unable to hold himself an upright position. He looked like someone was feeding him something. I always thought Howard was in that relationship to bring her to a slow demise
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                1. 3/28/2008 9:52 PM Hidoll wrote:
                  I believe for yrs this Howard guy has been after Anna's estate and money. Funny he was always with her when she was strungout or drunk, he'd film her at her worse like when she had that clown makeup on and she didn't know what the hell was going on she was so hopped up.Like you say he was feeding something to her and that son of hers.

                  Anna was a a money bag for him Howard is a lawyer who hasn't worked in yrs so better way to go after a person with money is to go after a person with money who drinks and have drug issues as SO Anna had(poor RICH girl)I believe Howard, this Nurse friend of Anna's and that other Dr women was the ones getting the drugs for Anna feeding the drugs to Anna and Daniel.They say when Daniel came to see his mom and his new baby sister he was ok then he started having breathing problems. Now Daniel is in a "HOSPITAL" in his mothers room with her and Howard then something starts to happen to young Daniel and instend of doing the smart thing like call for a DOCTOR OR NURSE Howard is trying to revive him HMMMMMMMMMM

                  Their in a place full of DOCTORS, NURSES and equitments that may have safe this young man's life but Howard is the one who's claiming to try to revive him.

                  Something is amiss here
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            3. 3/30/2008 9:44 AM cocoalatte wrote:
              She knows (Hey girl) Yes I can say that I have podered that Anna Nicole Smith theory too. The whole thing with her son passing away while visiting her and his newborn little sister in the Bahamas hospital never sat right with me.Then less than 6 months later she too is gone? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
              I know that she (Anna Nicole had been on a path of self detruction(with meds and drugs,alcohol) but that story never sat totaly right with me!
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          2. 3/28/2008 9:14 PM Hidoll wrote:
            BOY OH BOY! Cocoalatte you hit it on the head. U sure as hell got it right the men in hollywood are just as big whores as the women.

            Yeah the big wigs who own the casting couch are quick to say that women will spread her legs then one might say he's a whore lover since they are the ones sleeping with the women they refer to as whores. Their too dumb to realize that when they expose her as a whore he expose himself as the man who sleeps with the whore.

            Even Jerry Lewis claims he slept with Marilyn Monroe I mean I know she's slept with many men but I hope she had better taste then to sleep with Jerry Lewis
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            1. 3/30/2008 10:19 AM cocoalatte wrote:
              Hey Hidoll ,yes I notice that alot of men have no problem referring to a woman as a whore ,yet he himself sleeps around more than a littke with various women,and hes "a man just being a man" That is so hypocritical to me,because if shes considered a whore and you willingly sleep with her wouldnt that make you a whore monger,who male whore,lol? I know Marilyn Monroe had her share of partners,but most of them men she was linked to had quite the black book" and list of past /present oartners their damn self! I know she had dirt on many ,she slept with 2 relatives,who happened to both be influential politicians in the 60s' JFK,(president) and Bobby Kennedy(senator),and she was NOT the only woman linked to either!!ANd bot were very married at the time.
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              1. 3/30/2008 10:32 AM cocoalatte wrote:
                sorry this was in response to an earlier post by hidoll, it posted in wrong place I think!
                Ps. That Howard guy (even if he wasnt involved" struck me as sneaky,and after that whirlwind marriage to Anna Nicole I was like WTF .Its easier to manipulate and control someone under the influence (drugs and alcohol)
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          3. 3/31/2008 5:14 AM lioness wrote:
            This weekend i was reading the Marilyn taschen book , a private reading between my husband and I , it amazing the power words have when spoken outloud. The book was exhausting , I came away with Marilyn only cared about Marilyn . She was empty , she could never be possessed because she had no fix point ,. I also felt like she really slept her way through hollywood ,( not in the conventional way we hear it, almost abusive ) and becoming a star was her payoff. I also think though no proof that all her marriages were arranged . I.e. joe dimaggio the studio ended that marriage ( due to the beatings ) not joe . In some odd way because he beat her , Marilyn thought he loved her !
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  • 3/28/2008 3:40 PM The Mayor Of Panache Report wrote:
    Hey Ya'll,

    WW just read the BI. But she didn't give an answer as to who it is
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  • 3/28/2008 5:30 PM madd cool bruh in the A from the D! wrote:
    Aye,Sable check my earlier post
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    1. 3/28/2008 6:24 PM Trebonique wrote:
      Mad Cul Bruh--- I am not meaning to be disrespectful and please don't take my tone wrong but...
      Everybody saw your post and frankly it had alot of Yo's and duh's but no real information or dirt. Not one clear sentence. If you are looking for personal attention, Don't. You will get answered if you have something real to say. If you are going to drop bombs do so. Tell her who the DL pastor is that visit's the tranny stip. Who is the hard DL dude you mentioned in you above comment? What are the thing you are speaking of? If you read her comment to you she said let the anchor go and stop the ship
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      1. 3/28/2008 6:35 PM Anonymous wrote:
        you are right. i can barely understand him.

        people don't mind slang, but he needs to use a period at the end of his sentences and make his statements concise.
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        1. 3/28/2008 6:50 PM madd cool bruh in the A from the D! wrote:
          no disrepect taken but ya name aint sable.. so I wasnt talkin to u.. on the real..check it I will make sure u can understand better what i mean.. look above got my response.. the one thing is that i see on here is that ya'll so critical on folk that's why Sable left 2wks ago when ole girl was spittin the crazy evil venom and ya'll thought she was gone and panicked..chill it aint that deep we typing fast ya'll get the point if u don't beat it!!!!! Oh yea beofre u blast me I'm an educated bruh wit a degree and great career..
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          1. 3/28/2008 6:58 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
            So can I ask another question? So you saying The Oak man bats and catches? We had another thread a few months back and his name came up & so many ladies came on saying they know this abt him & they know that abt him & he's all abt the ladies. Did you just drop a bomb and say the opposite?
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            1. 3/28/2008 9:39 PM Trinity wrote:
              I'm with everyone on this one, if you got the dish let it be dropped - but the oak man, sorry...use to see him out & about during his playing days...gaydar reading 9
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          2. 3/28/2008 7:07 PM Trebonique wrote:
            1st I would never question your education not my style and listen.. I know my name ain't sable my name suits me fine. Its very powerful if you knew what it ment. You are right about it being critical and having venom in here but most of the time its visitors who attack. Many people who like Sable got upset at the hate because they understand her value. I sweat nobody. But, I am going to let you breath and welcome you aboard. I will ignore the rest of your comment and be the bigger person.
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            1. 3/28/2008 7:45 PM BlessedWoman wrote:
              WOW! I like a little positive with my negative. LOL.
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            2. 3/28/2008 11:48 PM Anonymous wrote:
              chic,classy, sophisticated and suave...very respectful as always Trebonique
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          3. 3/28/2008 8:40 PM AMBER (MODERATOR) wrote:
            Madd Brother, I apologize if posters are being harsh with you but do NOT come on this site calling women bitches and I just deleted your last 3 comments where you talked about why black women can't get or keep black men. If you continue on this type of rant, each of your comments will be deleted by staff since you are spoofing IP's. You are on here cursing and disrupting, like a troll and I admit, you have gotten your share of personal attacks but no one ever called you out of your name.
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            1. 3/29/2008 12:24 AM Anonymous wrote:
              Gorgeous Sable,You are true to your name.Not only are you a gorgeous(Vanity,Halle type.lol)You epitomize grace and elegance.You are always welcoming.You were amongst the first to welcome me.You extended yourself to one of our posters who was left feeling berated and shunned.BlessedWomen, you are always a class act.Never mean-spirited even when provoked.Tresbonique asked for clarification without being demeaning showing true character when a feeble attempt at personal attact was met with great humility,grace and understanding.Girl you ROCK!!!You kept the Panachigan door open and was still welcoming.Eyeonu2 engaged "bruh" in conversation without sarcasm or mockery.Amber(the moderator.lol)gently chastised without degrading.Once upon a time there was an "US",and we were mocked and degraded by "THEM"...
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            2. 3/29/2008 12:39 AM LUKER.POSTER.TODAY.A.SAD.OBSERVER wrote:
              Gorgeous Sable,You are true to your name.Not only are you a gorgeous(Vanity,Halle type.lol)You epitomize grace and elegance.You are always welcoming.You were amongst the first to welcome me.berated and shunned.BlessedWomen, you are always a class act.Never mean-spirited even when provoked.Tresbonique asked for clarification without being demeaning showing true character when a feeble attempt at personal attact was met with great humility,grace and understanding.Girl you ROCK!!!You kept the Panachigan door open and was still welcoming.Eyeonu2 engaged "bruh" in conversation without sarcasm or mockery.Amber(the moderator.lol)gently chastised without degrading.Once upon a time there was an "US",and we were mocked and degraded by "THEM"...
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  • 3/28/2008 6:48 PM Stephanie T. Jones wrote:
    Is Newark Mayor Cory Booker gay? I keep hearing stories that he is even though he is supposed to be daing Gayle King.
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    1. 3/28/2008 6:52 PM madd cool bruh in the A from the D! wrote:
      damn err body aint gay!!!!!!! lol just the chosen ..lol just messin wit u..!
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      1. 3/28/2008 7:32 PM Guy wrote:
        Come on dude, if you educated, speak like a educated man and leave that slang at home. You stand out like a sore thumb in this joint. Ain't nobody checking for thug life up in here. You sound like some uneducated rapper wanna be, online pimp. Not dissing, just speaking on it. You don't even sound like you have a high school degree much less a college degree. Why appear uneducated if you're not, it's not cute.
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        1. 3/28/2008 7:38 PM white chocolate wrote:
          You right, the gate has been left open and he brings a ghetto, projects, flavor in here and hasn't dropped one ounce of gossip. I damn near need subtitles underneath his posts to understand them.
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          1. 3/28/2008 7:41 PM Anonymous wrote:
            ROFLMAO!!! you and i both.
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          2. 3/28/2008 7:43 PM anon2 wrote:
            Something about this poster is familiar, can't quite put my finger on it but I am almost sure it is somebody going out of their way to change their writing style because it's way too exaggerated to throw people off and Sable is in his eyesight. It's ignorant as hell, where da hell did he get his degree from, he should ask for his money back because they failed. This is a former poster who does not want to be recognized and wasn't he supposed to be bringing the scoop, where is it.
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            1. 3/28/2008 7:46 PM Denise wrote:
              You guys are so snobby but in this case I am loving it, white chocolate, funny as hell! He bounced without leaking anything, LMAO. But guess what, we probably would not have understood it anyway because of his poor writing skills, lol.
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              1. 3/28/2008 7:55 PM Anonymous wrote:
                this person probably had nothing. just another poser running after/harassing sable.

                when i was in elementary school, my sentences were constructed better than his. i'm sorry. too much ignorance.
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                1. 3/28/2008 7:58 PM Denise wrote:
                  Paging spymaster and amber, do you guys ban for ignorance?
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              2. 3/28/2008 7:55 PM SheKnows wrote:
                I don't think they were being "so snobby" just being honest... Most of the people that post here don't speak in that manner. There are times when some posters just stand out and bring a different element than what we're used to on PR.
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                1. 3/28/2008 8:01 PM Denise wrote:
                  Nor do we want to get used to. That is why this board is so unique, the posters seem respectful, educated and traveled with interesting stories to share. This poster sounds like a thug, he doesn't even have the grammar skills of an adult. He may be in prison logging on at the prison library for all we know.
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                  1. 3/29/2008 7:39 AM Sheknows wrote:
                    Hi Denise, I feel you, and we are like family and do not hesitate to come to each other's defense. But, you're right most of us here and educated and well-versed. We all bring something unique to the table, and drop bombs here and there...
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            2. 3/28/2008 7:52 PM madd cool bruh in the A from the D! wrote:
              Never commented on here first time tonight and last will lurk and wont be saying anything negative about anyone on this site got too much respect from ya'll because i lurk on the comment daily my comments aint wanting that cool I will just ready on .. peace out!
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              1. 3/28/2008 8:07 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
                Bruh I asked you a question in regard to the "bomb" that you dropped bec I was trying to be sure of what you meant. You haven't responded to that. See above, I'm asking you if what your dropping is Charles Oakley is or was swinging a gay friend of yours?
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          3. 3/28/2008 9:53 PM Trinity wrote:
            LMAO!!...subtitles....lol
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        2. 3/28/2008 7:40 PM madd cool bruh in the A from the D! wrote:
          again, my badd I will lurk peace!!!!!!!!!!!
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          1. 3/28/2008 8:04 PM BlessedWoman wrote:
            Madd cool bruh,
            I dont think anyone here wants to offend you, but if you read over your posts, I dont think you will understand them either. I am one of the nice ones, as the others are also, and I have tried adding words to your sentences,removing words, adding commas, etc. and they still dont make any sense. We would love to understand what you're trying to say about whomever you're trying to say it about, but its almost impossible. This is an informational blog, and if you have information, we wanna hear it, but if we cant understand it, what's the point? If you've been lurking for a while, then you know that we keep it mature over here, so the youthful slang and bad grammar probably shouldnt be used here, maybe on MTO or some other place but not here, this is a different group. If you feel more comfortable lurking than doing a grammar/spell check before clicking submit comment, then that would be your choice.

            However, we have all welcomed you as we do all newbies. Bytheway, it is usually newbies that attack, none of these have attacked you, simply let you know that We Don't Understand What You're Saying.
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            1. 3/28/2008 8:25 PM anon2 wrote:
              I see his comment calling women bitches has been removed below, is Amber or Spy on nightshift? From what Sable has said about Amber, he better hope it's not Amber.
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    2. 3/29/2008 6:31 PM Bingo wrote:
      Everybody "ain't gay", but Cory Booker is.
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      1. 3/30/2008 4:29 PM M. wrote:
        OMG...I had a crush on him. Very brilliant and attractive in person.
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  • 3/28/2008 7:46 PM madd cool bruh in the A from the D! wrote:
    I apologize i hit the send button and it didtn post.. I sent a post on here bout Charles Oakley and a coose friend of mine in the DR, right before the DUI he got payin for some boy's there also if ya'll remember that story bout him smackin the kat over a cards game Tyrone Hill from Cleveland while Charles was playin for the Knicks.. It wasnt bout all that I know both parties.. Will keep the slong down for ya'll
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    1. 3/28/2008 7:51 PM white chocolate wrote:
      No offense, if this is keeping the slang down, I would hate to read the slang version of this because I cannot comprehend what you are trying to say, no offense. Sentence breaks and horrifying grammar. My 8 year old nephew can write better than this. This is really sad, have you ever thought of purchasing hooked on phonics?
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    2. 3/28/2008 7:55 PM Guy wrote:
      Man, please go back to lurking, I don't get what you are trying to say, it feels like I'm reading a foreign language. Please don't corrupt this board with ignorance and thuggary. I know they ban for personal attacks, I hope they add a ignorant category just for you.
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      1. 3/28/2008 8:01 PM SheKnows(myship) wrote:
        Hey Guy, Stop it ! You have got me crying laughing." Your thuggary word is hilarious ! There is nothing like a good laugh (LOL)...
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        1. 3/28/2008 8:08 PM BlessedWoman wrote:
          SheKnows, stop it I say! Is thuggary a word or did he make that up? RFLMAO
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      2. 3/28/2008 11:43 PM Anonymous wrote:
        Its sad how we can turn on one another.I agree his post is hard to read and understand in all honesty, I didn't get it.The attempt was to join the "open" forum and share.It surprises me how much we have forgotten.We are only a few generation from when whites used to look down there noses at us and criticize our looks and speech patterns.Why not by pass his post or ask for simple clarification.Lets not recommit the crimes that were done to us a few generations ago. Paper bag test,good hair bad hair,negroe geography, pedegree, ebonics...divide and conquer people, divide and conquer.
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        1. 3/29/2008 1:07 AM LUKER.POSTER.TODAY.A.SAD.OBSERVER wrote:
          ...and as the intellectuals gather to philosophize,quantify,and make great show of examining and orating the magnificence of the moon, the simpleton gathered his family because he "understood" the connection to the oceans tides!!!!
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          1. 3/29/2008 7:28 AM Guy wrote:
            Mad Bro ATL, get in where you fit in. Take it to MTO, you will get a standing ovation for being uneducated and ignorant. But man, you mess up the flow over here, real bad. Shout out to Amber for deleting the "lonely black bitches" comment. I agree, we have to stand against thug corruption. For the anonymous saying we are a few generations from being made fun of by whites for the way we used to speak, you answered your own question, a few generations ago, it should be no excuse for a person to be talking like this with all the educational tools available in this day and age and stop embracing this. For the tiny few complaining about how we interacted with mad bro from atl, we do this because we don't want this board to become a ghetto dwelling project, with ignorant people insulting and calling our women and men out of their names, we want it to remain the same, that's why we love it. If you not down with that, maybe you should bounce because the majority of black sites don't care about ignorance, they all about hits.
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            1. 3/29/2008 8:09 AM Sheknows(myship) wrote:
              Hey Guy, I agree and very well said. I could not have said it better. When I was looking for a classy, mature, and friendly site, I found it in PR.
              I had been to CL,MTO, and Sandra Rose and they were rude,ghetto, and crass. I didn't want to join in on that mess ?
              I lOVE the PR. I hope it remains a warm environment full of unique posters who all bring something interesting to the table...
              Most of us that post here are African Americans, and we ALL use some slang from time to time. However, it's legible and on point.
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              1. 3/29/2008 8:35 AM Jennifer wrote:
                One things I love about PR is the mature discussions that go on. The subjects vary but what remains constant is the intelligence and maturity that the people who post on this discussion board have. Disagreements happen from time to time and that is normal but there is an understanding that everyone can agree to disagree without resorting to name calling. The guy who posted last night was extremely hard to understand and he was also disrespectful. I have a strange feeling that Mad Cool Bruh, or whatever his name is , is a former poster who was banned from this site. He is probably using a different IP address and he is trying to disguise his writing style, probably someone who is holding a grudge against the posters on this site. It is just a feeling I have but I have a suspicious nature.
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                1. 3/29/2008 8:44 AM Jennifer wrote:
                  I started off my sentence with poor grammar. I meant to say "One of the things I love" instead of "One things". I was typing too fast and I didn't read over what I posted carefully. This bad writing/grammar is becoming contagious....LOL
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                2. 3/29/2008 10:07 AM SPYMASTER wrote:
                  I agree, I peeped that, I think we are talking about the same poster, it's him and he's still holding a grudge and trying to start a disruption, I will make a announcement below on this.
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                  1. 3/30/2008 8:56 AM The R wrote:
                    Hi Spymaster, I didn't read Bruh's comments about "Black B*tches", but I remember another poster by the name of Dee used to make these type of comments. If Bruh isn't Dee, then I apoligize in advance; however, the type of comments were similar.
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    3. 3/28/2008 9:48 PM LovelyMonAmi wrote:
      Cool Brutha,
      I am soo sorry that you are grammtically afflicted in the way that you are. You claim to be educated (which I highly doubt!), and write like a 5 year old with ADD.

      Dag broh... plase take a moment and get lil man, pookie and ray-ray to help your post the next "bomb" that you feel the need to drop.
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      1. 3/29/2008 6:04 PM Bingo wrote:
        LMAO! And don't forget his baby momma, Shalakeisha.
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        1. 3/29/2008 6:10 PM kelolo wrote:
          Your silly.LOL.There are people still naming their daughters Shaniqua."It was my favorite babydalls name"is the number one excuse.
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          1. 3/29/2008 6:12 PM kelolo wrote:
            And yes you read right,not babydoll,but babydall.
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    4. 3/28/2008 10:01 PM LovelyMonAmi wrote:
      LCF1ATL,

      The shame of al shame is that there are adults who believe that this form of speach is a form of their own expressioin that they are entitled to. Dare I say it is not. How we speak with friends, co-workers, clients etc. is different, we must know how to "switch it up" and "know your audiance".
      These individuals do not understand this at all.

      That "keepin it real" or "keepin it hood" mentality is soo trifilin' for words. That thugish, hood rattish maner of speech or life style can effect one's credibility or personal brand. I know that we all have a little dirt under our nails, some more than others... but imagine if Tiger Woods, Cornell West, Oprah Winfrey or Michael Jordan carried themselves as thugs... where would their careers be today? Mary J. Blidge finally got a clue and started acting a little more laldy like, now she's rolling in the dough, and has endorsements!
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    5. 3/28/2008 10:02 PM LovelyMonAmi wrote:
      LCF1ATL,

      The shame of all shame is that there are adults who believe that this form of speech is a form of their own expressioin that they are entitled to. Dare I say it is not. How we speak with friends, co-workers, clients etc. is different, we must know how to "switch it up" and "know your audiance".
      These individuals do not understand this at all.

      That "keepin it real" or "keepin it hood" mentality is soo trifilin' for words. That thugish, hood rattish maner of speech or life style can effect one's credibility or personal brand. I know that we all have a little dirt under our nails, some more than others... but imagine if Tiger Woods, Cornell West, Oprah Winfrey or Michael Jordan carried themselves as thugs... where would their careers be today? Mary J. Blidge finally got a clue and started acting a little more laldy like, now she's rolling in the dough, and has endorsements!
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    6. 3/28/2008 10:03 PM LovelyMonAmi wrote:
      LCF1ATL,

      The shame of all shame is that there are adults who believe that this form of speech is a form of their own expressioin that they are entitled to. Dare I say it is not. How we speak with friends, co-workers, clients etc. is different, we must know how to "switch it up" and "know your audiance".
      These individuals do not understand this at all.

      That "keepin it real" or "keepin it hood" mentality is soo trifilin' for words. That thugish, hood rattish maner of speech or life style can effect one's credibility or personal brand. I know that we all have a little dirt under our nails, some more than others... but imagine if Tiger Woods, Cornell West, Oprah Winfrey or Michael Jordan carried themselves as thugs... where would their careers be today? Mary J. Blidge finally got a clue and started acting a little more laldy like, now she's rolling in the dough, and has endorsements!
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      1. 3/29/2008 9:31 AM LCF1ATL wrote:
        LM,
        you are right about that. Well said.
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  • 3/28/2008 8:10 PM honeybee wrote:
    @ madd cool bruh

    I am usually a lurker, but I must say you are clearly trying to peak our interest by dropping hints and little teasers. But it is really hard to understand what you are trying to say. Nobody talks (types) like that. It just takes too much effort to use that much slang. Please stop the madness and "speak" clearly. If you are going to drop bombs.....let-er-rip. If you are going to be jaded and unclear fall back. We all use slanguage but really! Please understand, I say this respectfully madd cool bruh.
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  • 3/28/2008 8:59 PM Trebonique wrote:
    LOL you guys are funny. I like the thug comment

    Amber thank you for deleting my comment it was a bit harsh.. sorry to the PR family who read the mess I posted. But, my scales tipped to the evil side
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    1. 3/28/2008 9:03 PM Amber wrote:
      Hi, but I did not delete your comment intentionally, when you reply to a poster who will get comments deleted, on this system, it also deletes the replies to the person, your reply was deleted. You are fine.
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  • 3/28/2008 9:18 PM cau grad wrote:
    i'm not sure about whatever "bombshell" he was gonna drop on charles oakley but I will say this his the only ball player I have ever seen in the Magic City taking off as many clothes as the stripper
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    1. 3/28/2008 9:23 PM BlessedWoman wrote:
      Oh damn, he probably had a bombshell, but sometimes the delivery of the information is just as important as the information itself.

      So Oakley, was doing stripper moves? RFLMAO
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  • 3/28/2008 9:24 PM cau grad wrote:
    How do you becaome an insider?? or Sky villa member?? I can drop bombs on just about everything that goes on n the south from Cris ROck visiting certain clubs to what married b ball player was in VIp getting the bob and weave treatment on a recent road trip
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    1. 3/28/2008 9:28 PM BlessedWoman wrote:
      Drop it like it's hot...
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    2. 3/28/2008 9:37 PM celebgossip wrote:
      The first step to becoming an insider is to start airing out all the above dirty laundry of said celebs. If it's juicy enough and consistant, then you may get blessed with privileges. *hoping she starts spilling the beans quickly* lol!
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  • 3/28/2008 9:36 PM moishia. st john wrote:
    why all the hate tonight ...wow ladies lets keep this love.. This isnt our site this is PR's this is the reason I stop MTO cus of the hate people!!!!!!!! Speakin as a lurkin lady we should up lift our men not tear down them reguardless what we think bout the lifestyle or language.. I read thecomments and it really turned me off from postin becasue i think we should encourage folk to join in discussion...Hope I dont get hate comments bu thats how I feel...
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    1. 3/28/2008 9:41 PM LovelyMonAmi wrote:
      Ms. St. John,

      Please stop. Grown men who can put together decent sentences need top be corrected, not uplifted. Please supporting ignorance is not a good look for any race. The failure to use good grammer, and the inability to switch it up and address an audiance properly, even when asked to do so, is problematic regardless of race.

      There is a reason why adults keep children out of grown folks conversations. Cause, they ain't got nuttin worth contributing.
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      1. 3/28/2008 9:48 PM BlessedWoman wrote:
        Touche'
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      2. 3/28/2008 9:49 PM moishia. st john wrote:
        Ok,
        I will lurk cus I don't want this type of stuff to keep me from reading this site, Paris and Myra should really read the comments on here its so negative not just bout that guy but about anyone who isn't like your click.. Even Sable was on this list when she didst say what the majority agreed wit and folk begged here to come back when they thought she left the site with he inside knowledge...Freedom of speech should be encouraged not discouraged and if a brotha is a white collar dude to make him feel less then a man is not helping our race..Hey this is an outsider looking in no offense meant
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        1. 3/28/2008 10:04 PM BlessedWoman wrote:
          Maybe I missed something, but I didnt see any other negative conversations but this one. We are adults, we agree to disagree. To disagree with someone doesnt make it negative. So if someone disagrees with me, it's okay, because I am a mature adult. I won't run away from that. I've been attacked by newbie visitors, but they can't offend me, I respect their desire to disagree with me and I will keep it moving. But I will also continue to post as long as my posts are positive and not demeaning. I do not agree that he shouldve been put down, but he still didnt come with the bomb that he claimed he had, which made him seem fraudulent.

          This is a discussion board, in discussions, we will disagree, but we keep it moving. We are not kids. How interesting would this blog be if we all agreed with everything someone says. Dude really shouldnt have gotten offended. What he shouldve done is corrected his grammar and continued to join the discussion. If no one understood it, then he shouldve done like everyone else, apologize and come back with a legible bomb and dropped it.

          Hopefully I didnt offend you, as that was not my intention. I simply dont think dude understood the issue was not him, everyone was just trying to let him know grammar check was needed.
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          1. 3/28/2008 10:08 PM LCF1ATL wrote:
            As always BW, well said. Well said.
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        2. 3/29/2008 7:13 AM Amber wrote:
          moisha, freedom of speech is encouraged but we do NOT tolerate women being called bitches on this site. MADD was not called out of his name and I did say the comments were harsh towards him. We do not encourage nor do we tolerate male or women bashing. The comments I deleted on MADD were very insulting to black women as well (comments you came on to late to see) were beyond negative in regards to black women "only" in the form of bashing. And all sites have cliques. Madd's comments were not deleted because of poor grammar, they were deleted because women were called derogatory names and personally attacked.
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      3. 3/28/2008 9:51 PM LCF1ATL wrote:
        Amen. The sad thing about it is there are people that actually talk in that manner every day.
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        1. 3/28/2008 10:00 PM moishia. st john wrote:
          yea, its sad cus these same rejects to us,are the athletes,actors, and rich guys we lookin to take us when they go to white girls that choose to over look slang,etc and we dont ... I'm not sayin low expectations I'm sayin the brotha said he was an insider and as we know they arent always PHD'd .. lol example puffy,russell,Jay-Z,
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          1. 3/28/2008 10:05 PM LCF1ATL wrote:
            No offense Mo, but most real insiders drop the bombshell first than they try to mingle.
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            1. 3/28/2008 10:08 PM BlessedWoman wrote:
              touche'
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            2. 3/28/2008 10:14 PM moishia. st john wrote:
              Yea,
              But from what i read above the stuff on Oakley wasnt a lie and folk just dont cum out here with name that's why they call it BI'S again I dont wanna be his defense atty.. just sayin i thought the nasty comments werent funny and were more hateful then helpful cus i want new dirt not the same bout folk and i felt like I could understand what he said and I know plenty of brotha who talk slang and are really smart people..
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              1. 3/28/2008 10:26 PM LCF1ATL wrote:
                PR has a very diverse following. Majority if not all are well educated and we have higher standards on issues such as using correct grammar, no tolerance of harsh words, and attacks on other posters. When things get out of hand the moderators step in no matter who the posters are. Last note before I go back to lurking: Do not worry new dirt surfaces at any time.
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              2. 3/28/2008 10:36 PM BlessedWoman wrote:
                The stuff about Oakley may have been true, but what stuff? It appears YOU have a clear understanding of what was obviously bad grammar, but no one else did. You're not the only one on this blog. I truly tried, adding words to the sentence, adding punctuation,and removing words, but I am still stuck on maybe or maybe not Oakley is into guys. The fact of the matter is, it cant be a bombshell if no one understands it but you and him. I really wanted to hear what he had to say, but I just couldnt understand it. He probably is a smart guy, and a lot of brothers write the way they talk, but if no one understands it, what is the point in writing it? I dont know if what he was saying about Oakley is a lie or not because i dont know what he was saying. Congratulations on understanding it, I dont agree with negative comments from anyone, but the point was for him to do a spell/grammar check.

                Maybe he needs to learn how to flip the script, as my kids tell me. Or adapt to his environment. The fact is, no one understood his bombshell but you and him. He was welcomed, as we all want new dirt and there is a lot in the ATL that we want to know, like the DL MegaPastor, but he never answered that either. It's cool though, we are not intentionally cruel on this blog and spymaster and the crew make sure we dont break any rules.

                Welcome to the Family
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          2. 3/29/2008 7:17 AM diva wrote:
            go to the white girls then because I know a lot of black woman as well as other races of women who do not like ghetto uneducated thug slang. We are not missing a thing, are you mad broh under another name. Or better yet, if you are not mad broh, why don't you two start a blog and talk this thug slang all day long and night. Why come over here with this ignorance, take it somewhere where it's welcome. I would be ashamed to speak like this, and you should be too and nobody cares on this site if you go to white women. So stop trying to bring up the race card to defend this ignorant practice. You both are in the wrong place.
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      4. 3/29/2008 6:30 AM SouthernGirl77 wrote:
        standing ovation for LovelyMonAmi!!! preach. people need to take responsibility for themselves and grow the heck up.
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    2. 3/29/2008 7:33 AM diva wrote:
      mo: Please go back to MTO, it is our man's responsibility to uplift themselves and when they do, they will dump you for a white woman. So get a grip and I do hope you take your own advice and stop posting. A few of us will chip in and buy you a plane ticket back to MTO, for you and Mad. You say we tore mad down, he was the one calling black women bitches, I assume you are a black woman, if you are, why is this not offensive unless you are used to be calling this.
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    3. 3/29/2008 9:45 AM BEULAH wrote:
      Good morning fellow Panachigans,
      Moishia. ST John, I whole heartedly agree with you.We don't start off on the same footing.I agree that the attraction to this site is the level of sophistication and the quality of the posters.And I, (anonymous,lurker.poster.sad observer.)was simply stating that our forefathers withstood great disrespect and degredation for the sake of there legacy.I don't embrace ignorance, I just understand we don't all start out on equal footing.I felt this became a game of ONE-UPMANSHIP. We could have scrolled down and by-passed.IMHO...Peace
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      1. 3/29/2008 10:22 AM Anonymous wrote:
        our ancestors would jump at the opportunities we have now. so spare me. this man was not disrespected. no one understood him. it was not half-way intelligent.

        language is a beautiful thing. we should all embrace one.
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    4. 3/29/2008 11:38 AM cat4everrr wrote:
      i agree. i understood correcting him for his bad grammar the first time or two but the constant patting on the back by some came off as snobbish in my book. one might also call it, dare i say, bougie.

      what's with the constant hate of mto? you people obviously read it otherwise how could you comment on what goes on there. but i'm sure you hold off on all the snobish remarks until after you've had your fill of the juicy gossip.

      people can be so hypocrital
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      1. 3/29/2008 1:28 PM The Truth wrote:
        MTO does not have juicy gossip, maybe outright lies. The first to report Mary J. is pregnant, where it the baby? You lied and said the girl from the wire was caught in a prostitution sting and had to do a retraction like when Gabe was creepin on Halle and Ashanti being pregnant. Lies, Lies, lies. Nothing juicy about that wreck of a site and like another poster said, it's black on black crime. You guys are worse than the National Enquirer, what's next, ciara had twins and a puppy? Ass wipes. Bounce if you don't like it over here.
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        1. 3/29/2008 7:21 PM cat4everrr wrote:
          i just don't get you people, if you hate mto so much why do you keep advertising them by constantly bad mouthing them? why not just stick to the topic and cut down on the snobishnes
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  • 3/28/2008 10:08 PM LovelyMonAmi wrote:
    LCF1ATL,

    Exactly!
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  • 3/28/2008 11:06 PM Dr. Neptune wrote:
    Women are slaves to materialism.
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  • 3/29/2008 2:34 AM celebgossip wrote:
    I'm beginning to see an increase in MTO posters in this site. No offense, but we like to be able to decipher our slang. I don't need Cliff's Notes to try to understand a comment. Unless you're coming in here the drop some hot gossip or enlightening educational conversations, you should go back to lurking or go back to posting "First!" on MTO. Now, let us grown people get back to our conversation.
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    1. 3/29/2008 7:39 AM AMBER (MODERATOR) wrote:
      celebgossip: This will be taken care of, trust.
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    2. 3/29/2008 11:45 AM cat4everrr wrote:
      first off, you put your pants on in the morning just like the rest of us so you can just drop the uppity attitude. how do you know who posts on mto unless you read us. i post on mto. you got me stuck trying to figure out how you not posting on mto but reading the comments somehow qualifies you as being upper class
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      1. 3/29/2008 1:21 PM diva wrote:
        Do you work for MTO, you have to, anyone with good sense wouldn't defend them unless they are employed there. Your site is garbage, face it and stop being so sensitive. Why don't you employ that mad poster to write for you, with his grammar errors and typos, he would fit right in as a writer. And if we are so stuck up, leave and go back to your low rent shack, MTO.
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      2. 3/29/2008 2:31 PM celebgossip wrote:
        Listen my little grammatically challenged sweet pea. This will be my first and last response to you due to the fact that my brain doesn't know how to go to the realms in which you seem to exist in. I don't go to Media Fake Out because it's just like reading The Sun tabloid where you can make up a bunch of crap and then get me to feed into the lies. Lower gene pool people seem to confuse class with having an "uppity attitude". I accept your apology.
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        1. 3/29/2008 4:09 PM white chocolate wrote:
          Cat4ever, you just blew your cover, I guess we know who's jacking the comments that turn into MTO cover stories. SMH. Cat, are you the same poster on black voices who gets mad when people ask you to stop posting links every day to the MTO home page??? People go over to MTO to laugh at the lies you guys created for the day, bad fictional entertainment. The only true stories on the site are the stories linking to another site, SMH. No juicy news but very sad news. MTO is known as the worst that black journalism has to offer, that is your rep in the industry in case you didn't know. You may get high ratings but remember, Britney Spears also outsold Whitney Houston in combined album sales. Most popular does not mean the best. Wolfgang Puck is the most power and well known chef in the world but he is not the best chef in the world.
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          1. 3/29/2008 6:25 PM Bingo wrote:
            @celeb & white chocolate: Y'all let those fools know!
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            1. 3/29/2008 7:50 PM cat4everrr wrote:
              messing around you people is gonna end up getting me banned. since i enjoy the gossip and have no wish to be banned i'll end it by saying this- you people win. you're better than the lowly people at mto.
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              1. 3/30/2008 6:52 PM Gne wrote:
                @ Cat, I was raised in southern Virginia and spent some time protesting for civil rights. Your repeated use of the phrase "you people" is making me cringe. It brings back unpleasant memories as it was always used in a disparaging way toward us a group. Imagine the sheriff standing in front of a group of orderly, non-violent marchers and he says...'now you people get on home now, yall know this place ain't got to sell you people no food ifn they don't want to'.
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          2. 3/29/2008 7:15 PM cat4everrr wrote:
            what in the heck are you people talking about? i don't have an account on black voices all though i had intended to do so if it is the same site i'm thinking of.

            how you come to the conclusion that since i post on mto i therefore work for mto is a stretch and beyond rediculous given the his intelligence you people claim to have. you guys practically advertise the site every other day here bad mouthing them with your high cidity attitude and turning your nose up.


            i cram to understand what makes you so better. some post on mto while others post here. at the end of the day they are both gossip sites.
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            1. 3/29/2008 8:38 PM white chocolate wrote:
              At the end of the day they are both gossip sites. You should get banned by putting MTO in the same category of PR. No comparison. The news over here is better written, researched and most of all, the truth. MTO is the city dump on the web. How can you even say PR and MTO in the same breath. Go home to MTO and don't come back.
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              1. 3/30/2008 10:13 AM cocoalatte wrote:
                I think that everyone should just end this talk about MediaTakeout because we are all online and trying to figure out whos who on which site is a never ending game of guessing and assumptions.I have visited the Media Takeout site in past (and others) ,and on occassion Ill pop over just to laugh or see what they have to say( I dont take most of what they have to say seriously) but I dont post on there because I wasnt feeling the posting environment myself. This is a mature spot , so lets keep it as such,without all the name calling (eitherway)!
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  • 3/29/2008 5:54 AM sleumas75 wrote:
    I enjoy the blind items, but noticed that people were going to drop"bombs" they never did?? I usually lurk, but it was hard to understand what the poster from atl was saying, but I didn't get the troll aspect from him. So hopefully he will drop bombs ,as well as the lady from the south who knew gossip. It's fun figuring out the bi, but what you find out in the process is what's interesting and informative. Out of curiosity I wonder with all these swing parties and groupie love fest is this why alot of men are turning to men have they exhausted all of their freak avenues? just curious, because it's like their appetite for kinky sex is increasing to so many disturbing levels. I have no guess for the bi it could be anyone, but when I saw kobe on "the diary" he was so arrogant and the killer part was when he showed his wedding ring like it was symbolic for his marriage, but he's laying up with all these different women.
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    1. 3/29/2008 6:29 PM Bingo wrote:
      Let him drop bombs, but please let them be in English. He sounds like a struggling ESL(English as a Second Language)student.
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      1. 3/30/2008 9:18 AM The R wrote:
        Ah Bingo, I was a struggling ESL student and I didn't sound like that guy (I hope). I just couldn't get the "ee" sound without it sounding like the "i" sound and vice versa... example "sheet of paper" as opposed to "sh*t of paper". It was pitiful.

        I don't know what language that was that Bruh was speaking. LOL @ dropping English bombs...
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  • 3/29/2008 7:44 AM Trebonique wrote:
    Hi Testing testing
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    1. 3/29/2008 7:53 AM SheKnows wrote:
      Hey Trebonique, I liked the classy way that you handled yourself up top. Also, I enjoy your posts.
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      1. 3/29/2008 8:21 AM Trebonique wrote:
        Thank you SheKnows
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      2. 3/29/2008 9:51 AM BEULAH wrote:
        HERE,HERE!!!
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  • 3/29/2008 8:24 AM Trebonique wrote:
    Allogory of the cave. I cannt post more than 2 words this site has modorated my thoughts lol
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    1. 3/29/2008 8:39 AM lavender wrote:
      Hi Trebonique, I, too, have been moderated, but I guess it comes with the territory.
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  • 3/29/2008 8:50 AM ms coleman wrote:
    Looks like I missed a lot of drama yesterday. Good Morning All!!!
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    1. 3/29/2008 1:04 PM poppy wrote:
      I know, right? I go away for a night and utter chaos lol. Damn!
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    2. 3/29/2008 8:55 PM SouthnDiva wrote:
      Yes we did! I was just finishing up reading the above posts and it was an all out drama fest! But I must say, it was "mature" drama!
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  • 3/29/2008 8:58 AM bitchevil wrote:
    paging spymaster or amber please just dont let him into the site.he bought alot of negatives to the pr family and we cant have that.
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    1. 3/29/2008 10:01 AM BLACK ELITE wrote:
      Miss Bitch Evil, I agree. I live in Bel Air and I'm in the industry. I belong to many private clubs offline and this site is the online version and on par with those clubs. I love the elitism, educational aspect, affluence and intelligence of this site and I hope it remains that way. I emailed Myra about going private to avoid this type of intrusion but she won't because of the lurkers. This site covers a wide territory, with a wide range of visitors, celebrities, sports stars, Hollywood insiders, Washington political insiders, models, stylists and a guy was recently on TV, a former banger, who lived in Compton, he told the reporter, this was his favorite site. This site is the prime example of Black people coming together without negativity and anger and having intelligent conversation. Myra, baby, I will email you again, I may have another solution to this intrusion problem.
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      1. 3/29/2008 10:04 AM anon2 wrote:
        You right, Mad did make it seem like a home invasion when he appeared on here, lol. He is the definition of the word intrusion, lol.
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      2. 3/29/2008 10:18 AM BEULAH wrote:
        Thank you Myra for remembering the lurkers!
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        1. 3/29/2008 5:55 PM Justagirl wrote:
          I second that!! *note to self: must get out more to get dirt on celebs in case Marvelous Myra takes the blog private...you need to get out more anyway*

          *Baby* going back in the corner...
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        2. 3/31/2008 7:35 AM K-Kay wrote:
          Yes, thanks for remembering us lurkers! I am here all day and night even though I rarely post.

          Justagirl: I second that! I, too, need to get out more!
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  • 3/29/2008 9:12 AM cau grad wrote:
    Well as far as my "bombshells" are concerned I will reveal some names and helpful insightful clues that should be easy enough to decipher. As for our west ball player I will give you this he's on the west coast, very married and has been known to want to "skeet skeet" on a womans face LOL!!
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    1. 3/29/2008 9:39 AM lavender wrote:
      Ha..ha.. Well, heck, the blind item is more than solved, then! Although Shaq is no choir boy himself, but this dude angered me when S.Oneal was traded south.I think he had a hand in all of that mess in L.A., and he has a lot of pint up emotional issues. Okay, BI solved!
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    2. 3/29/2008 9:52 AM Paris wrote:
      The skeet skeet player is not the answer to this blind item.
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      1. 3/29/2008 3:24 PM lavender wrote:
        Aww man, I thought this was solved!lol
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  • 3/29/2008 10:14 AM SPYMASTER (MODERATOR) ANNOUNCEMENT wrote:
    PR Posters, please do not respond to any more comments made by, MADD COOL BRUH, MOISHIA ST. JOHN & LURKER POSTER TODAY, SAD OBSERV.

    All three posters are the same person. He was once banned on here and is back trying to disrupt and wreak havoc. He is bouncing from IP to IP and spoofing to avoid being banned.

    Please do not respond to any of his posts or your replies will be deleted with his posts and if u ignore him he will go away.

    Something strange about this guy and he has an unhealthy addiction with this site and Sable.
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    1. 3/29/2008 10:20 AM diva wrote:
      Ya'll always said blacksheep/B was crazy, now I'm seeing it with my own eyes. He acted like he was so damned intelligent when he got banned, look at this mess he created last night. This dude don't seem to have a life outside the computer. He was on that Necole Bitchie site moaning about his online rep and what peeps thought of him, why care dude, it's just a message board full of strangers who you will never meet. He sounds unstable and has way too much time on his hands.
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    2. 3/29/2008 10:31 AM BEULAH wrote:
      No No, I am not the same poster as Moishia and MADD COOL BRUH...i have never been banned.
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      1. 3/29/2008 10:33 AM SPYMASTER wrote:
        ??? Your name Beulah is not even in my ignore post. ???
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        1. 3/29/2008 10:47 AM BEULAH wrote:
          PHEW!I responded to the comments and did not want to get lumped and lose access to my daily addiction...almost had a heart attack
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    3. 3/29/2008 10:32 AM Paris wrote:
      Spymaster, you may want to let them know like Amber did with Tre, when a comment is deleted, the replies are automatically deleted to that comment. People will not be unfairly targeted for responding. Our system is just set up that way. Thanks.
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    4. 3/29/2008 10:46 AM eyeonu2 wrote:
      Spymaster I think the poster you are refering to above still post regularly but under yet another name, but is peaceful under the other name.
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      1. 3/29/2008 10:51 AM BEULAH wrote:
        Thank you Eyeonu2,I'll come back later...I had visions of not being able to log in ever again...(wiping forehead)its true,ones life does flash before your eyes...
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      2. 3/29/2008 11:04 AM SPYMASTER wrote:
        so beulah is blacksheep aka B?
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        1. 3/29/2008 11:22 AM eyeonu2 wrote:
          I am not refering to Beulah? How can I send an email directly to you?
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        2. 3/29/2008 11:27 AM Anonymous wrote:
          No Sir Spymaster sir,lol,I have been anonymous, KayCAY and on Resurrection Sunday along with Myship,Lewis2 etc ,I am now simply Beulah...I have never been interested in causing chaos here. I am still in recovery mode...
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          1. 3/29/2008 11:30 AM BEULAH wrote:
            ...forgot to enter my name yet again...
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            1. 3/29/2008 12:14 PM facepainter wrote:
              @Beulah

              Honey facepainter here. I'm sending you a blotting paper,loose powder and my finest sable brush to matte you down.
              I know what it feels like when you think you can't participate here anymore. I once
              logged on and was not allowed to comment.Thankfully it was just an error.
              You just made me smile with the," No Sir Spymaster Sir."
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              1. 3/29/2008 12:36 PM BEULAH wrote:
                Thank you Facepainter...(giving you a cyberhug)LOL...my life did flash before my face...I'll go recuperate and come back later.
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                1. 3/29/2008 12:43 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
                  That was funny. I definetely was not thinking that you were trying to pull a fast one. I didn't realize you had changed handles until you said so above. Going to take me a minute to get the new handles together. I think order is restored.
                  Facepainter- love your posts.
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                  1. 3/29/2008 1:01 PM facepainter wrote:
                    Thank you. I love yours too.
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                2. 3/29/2008 12:52 PM kelolo wrote:
                  Your life????Wow.
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                  1. 3/31/2008 10:51 PM BEULAH wrote:
                    Yes, Panachereport is a part of my DAILY,activities.My life LOL!
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                    1. 4/1/2008 6:11 AM kelolo wrote:
                      That's beautiful
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                3. 3/29/2008 1:23 PM SPYMASTER wrote:
                  It's all good Beulah, you are not caught up in the ban mix at all. Miscommunication.
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                  1. 3/31/2008 10:48 PM BEULAH wrote:
                    Thank you!!!
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          2. 3/29/2008 5:22 PM BlessedWoman wrote:
            A lot happened on Resurrection Sunday, didnt it!?! LMAO-
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            1. 3/31/2008 10:46 PM BEULAH wrote:
              your not kidding LOL!!!
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  • 3/29/2008 2:10 PM i1da wrote:
    OT: Is it an insult to be called, or call someone, bourgeoisie or bougie?
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    1. 3/29/2008 6:01 PM kelolo wrote:
      I don't think so.I rather be called bougie,then be called ghetto.LOL.Your name must be Wanda.
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      1. 3/29/2008 7:51 PM i1da wrote:
        No ... but I-do-wonder lol.
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    2. 3/29/2008 7:44 PM cat4everrr wrote:
      it is a trait common among those who forget where they came from
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      1. 3/29/2008 7:59 PM i1da wrote:
        So how do you know where I come from? And if you are speaking figuratively, where do I come from figuratively? I thought bourgeoisie meant middle class.
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        1. 3/29/2008 8:15 PM cat4everrr wrote:
          i'm drawing a blank here. refresh my memory. when did i ever call you bourgeoisie?
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      2. 3/29/2008 8:30 PM white chocolate wrote:
        And how do you know where people come from on this board? Ghetto mentality on your part. That statement was designed for people who come from the ghetto but act uppity and forgot they came from there. How do you know anyone on here came from the ghetto like you obviously did. If we are so snobby and bougie, which you keep saying, LEAVE and go back to your beloved and ignorant MTO. I would rather be in the company of educated and mature people on here than ignorant immature people on there.
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        1. 3/29/2008 9:13 PM cat4everrr wrote:
          you win, you are better than the rest of us. happy?
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    3. 3/30/2008 8:32 AM Anonymous wrote:
      bourgeoisie means middle class, and i believe its origin is russian.

      ...but ghetto folks especially the ones who infiltrated two days ago wouldn't know this.
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  • 3/29/2008 4:36 PM kelolo wrote:
    Well,OK.What do we have so far for the answer to the BI?
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  • 3/29/2008 4:41 PM Jennifer wrote:
    I think the answer is Shaq. I think. I got distracted by that guy who was posting those idiotic comments last night and I lost track of the BI guesses...LOL.
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    1. 3/29/2008 5:01 PM kelolo wrote:
      LOL.I was seeing that mostly everybody was getting distracted,so I just fiquered I'll ask when everything is good again.I don't think we set on a final answer yet.Kobe's crazy ass is definetely the second.Crawford and Marbury sounds good for the first.I can see Crawford's stripperella wife being into that.Let me know if it's been settled on folks.All this conflict,I had to back up a little.
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  • 3/29/2008 6:59 PM Teina wrote:
    Garrett's popcorn is good. Lots of people like the mixed caramel/cheese, but I don't like the sweet/savory combination. I prefer the plain cheese: really good! Enjoy your popcorn.

    Re: Michael Jordan: Before he married Juanita and before he became famous, he dated a black woman in the greater Chicagoland area that he cared about, and she was in love with him. After the relationship got serious, she broached marriage, and he broke her heart telling her that he liked her but he could never marry her b/c she was too light to be accepted by his family, especially his mother. The woman has a very light complexion (much lighter than Juanita). The woman was devastated. The irony is that now Michael openly dates white women (but wouldn't marry a very light complexioned black woman), and MJ's father also openly "dated" white despite being a married man (so how upset would dad have been if MJ had married a very light black woman?) So absolutely silly.
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    1. 3/29/2008 7:44 PM lawchick wrote:
      Early 90s, I was in this club in Chicago called the Cotton Club. There was a jet black ferrari outside with the license plate M AIR J. Went inside and saw the man himself dancing with a very tall, very light complexioned black woman. He was posted up with her all night, including dancing slow right next to me and my date. I found out the next day that Juanita was about 8 months pregnant at the time with their second child.
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      1. 3/30/2008 9:58 AM PinkSilk wrote:
        wow. So Jordan has been slutting it up for years now, but people thought he was this perfect family guy...And even after the truth has come out, people still like him, he still has all of his endorsements. I know someone who saw him at the Kentucky Derby (Jordan loves to gamble) and she said that he's actually really good-looking in person. And I wonder if seeing his father cheating with white women had an effect on him...plus, Sable says that his own sons openly date white as well. (not that there is anything inherently wrong with that, but when you see soooo many rich Black men chasing white women over and over, you have to start wondering why...)
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    2. 3/29/2008 8:12 PM Anonymous wrote:
      That doesn't make any kind of sense! I agree, that is just silly!
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    3. 3/30/2008 10:39 AM cocoalatte wrote:
      She must have been light as an albino(no disrespect to albinois) because Juanita is light also!
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  • 3/29/2008 7:07 PM Teina wrote:
    Cory Booker? Gosh.
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  • 3/29/2008 7:44 PM kelolo wrote:
    Bye,ya'll.I gotta pull a 12 hour,homegirl gotta pay the bills.I'll looking forward to Monday's BI.Make it a juicy one,Myra.LOL
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  • 3/29/2008 8:20 PM Teina wrote:
    I remeber the Cotton Club, it was around a long time. It was one of the few places people actually visited in the South Loop, b/c at that time the South Loop was very seedy. Is Cotton Club still there (on Michigan Ave. ?) in light of all the South Loop gentrification?
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    1. 3/30/2008 7:36 AM eyeonu2 wrote:
      That was the only club at that end of town that I liked. They just closed it a w/i the last few years.
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    2. 3/30/2008 12:25 PM Scorpio Dragon wrote:
      No, it was a casualty of the South Loop (heck Chicago period) gentrification. They tore it down about two years ago and now in its place is a condo.
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  • 3/29/2008 8:43 PM Str8Attitude wrote:
    OT: Does anyone have any 411 on Raheem Devaughn? This women who used to work with me left b/c she was pregnant. She said Raheem was the "baby daddy" She had the baby in January.
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  • 3/29/2008 8:58 PM lavender wrote:
    Wow! When a few of the regular posters changed their handles, someone with a (multiple "poster" personality?)psychosis came on the boards to have a conversation with himself, in defense of himself.Oh, okay, I'm laughing but maybe I shouldn't laugh about this incident because it's too crazy.
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    1. 3/29/2008 11:06 PM i1da wrote:
      lol multiple "poster" personality!
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  • 3/29/2008 9:01 PM Deanna wrote:
    See you guys Sunday night. Too much going on in this BI right now.

    Before I leave, let me say that my first guess for the West Coast player is Tracy McGrady and my second guess is Kobe Bryant.

    Later, lovlies!
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    1. 3/29/2008 9:09 PM SouthnDiva wrote:
      Deanna, I am with you! I came on here to see if the BI had been solved and there was a dramafest going on! Lavender, what you are saying may sum it all up! Some individuals need attention and they will try to get it in ANY manner that they can...whether it is negative or positive.

      BE BLESSED EVERYONE!
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  • 3/29/2008 10:44 PM Presidential wrote:
    So the consensus for the BI is.....
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  • 3/30/2008 5:53 AM Anonymous wrote:
    Rumor:Kansas Chief's Larry Johnson pregnant girlfriend is sleeping with Green Bay Packer's Ryan Grant.


    According to a blog:
    Boy oh boy, courtesy of a Highbrid Nation citizen, I got some juicy juice for ya’ll. Scandalous fa shiggidy. Ok, you all remember one of my latest model war contestants Latoya Graham from last week right? Well to say the least she’s in a bit of a gamble web. She and Larry Johnson were an item or whatever. As a matter of fact, a short while back there was some stuff in the media about Johnson strikin’ a woman. Well Latoya was that chick. They eventually patched it up and got her a place in the Hamptons. Things didn’t stay lovely for too long so she ended up partin’.

    Now enters Ryan Grant. Heard shorty was at his playoff games and all that. Green Bay is done and Grant is NY and word is that they are out here pretty tough. Now the gamble is that this lady is bout 6 months pregnant with Johnson’s child. Not sure what Grant is thinking in this situation but Johnson’s current wifey don’t have a clue. L.J. is seeing Julissa, the skinny cutie from BET and she is in the dark about a baby on the way from his previous flame. What’s even funnier is that L.J. doesn’t know about Ryan Grant. The two parents to be are attempting to stay somewhat together for the baby but no one in the equation knows anything. I say gambleeeee. Her joint is private so I didn’t peep but I heard there are sonogram pics on her myspace

    ********************Has anyone else heard this!!!!!
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    1. 3/30/2008 10:12 AM anon2 wrote:
      Yeah, we heard it, about two months ago on PR, lol.
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  • 3/30/2008 5:55 AM Anonymous wrote:
    Maybe this will change the mood in here until the next BI is posted my PR family.
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  • 3/30/2008 6:05 AM Anonymous wrote:
    Maybe old dirt, but here is another dose:

    Allegedly Lauren Hill likes to cheat with married men.

    Wyclef Jean reveals the mystery behind Lauryn Hill’s strange behavior. At one time, Hill was on top of the world winning acclaim and awards all over the world. Then, she snapped. Jean claims it was their affair that drove her over the edge. Jean is married, and he had no intention of leaving his wife for Hill. Jean says Hill started using drugs after they broke up. He says she has lost touch with reality, and there will not be a Fugees’ reunion. Jean says Hill is in desperate need of psychological help. Hill has had a history with married men. Her children’s father, Rohan Marley, also has a wife.
    *******************IIs This True????
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    1. 3/30/2008 10:48 AM cocoalatte wrote:
      I heard this some time ago!Lauren was upset with Wyclef for a long time for telling it(that they were sexually linked in past),and most us know by now that Rohan Marley was married (with kids already I think( when they hooked up)!Lauren is talented ,but obviously is fighting sime personal demons and mental health issues!(also past /present drug addiction) add that to mix=disasterThat is most likely why she cant committ to a real comeback.Not to mention she has about 5 children now.
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  • 3/30/2008 10:06 AM inyoguts wrote:
    Well my only problem with these 2 blind items is that all parties involved have to be comfortable. You cant be a man who wants the royal penis to be cleaned, yet your wife cant get her royal oats sewed as well. It's then obvious that you're insecure. Get a divorce then do you. Also it's no fun if you have to drag your wife to the swinger parties. If she's only doing it because you like to do it then it's no fun. Again get a divorce and marry someone who enjoys the things you enjoy in life. That goes for the women as well. Stop being so needy. So dependent. So accepting. Get ya own! Swinging to appease your man, swinging because you don't want to lose your man, swinging because you depend on your man is not truly swinging. Only thing you're swinging from is his ba***.
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