BLIND ITEM: "PLAYA WITH A PASSPORT"

 
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  • 12/9/2007 4:39 PM Myra wrote:
    This famous baller is juggling a wife and numerous girlfriends.

    Three years into his marriage, he paid his mistress $3 million dollars to abort his baby. This is the highest fee ever paid for an abortion by an athlete.

    This man has had so many women over the years that they were once assigned time slots instead of names: His assistant would alert him, 'sir, your 9-10 is here.'

    Allegedly, he got married for the wrong reasons. He tells friends that he felt obligated and the kids made him happy-not his wife.

    His true love is allegedly a latino woman (who he called on the eve of his wedding).

    He wanted her to stay in his life as a mistress but she refused because her mother wouldn't approve of her dating a married man. He loves her because she has never asked him for money or gifts.

    This baller also has women overseas. Currently, he is romancing a woman in Italy.

    Before his marriage, he was always photographed with black girlfriends and his wife is black but all his domestic and overseas girlfriends on the low-are white. He rarely goes public with non-black women.

    Over the years, women have complained about his lovemaking. He is compatible with some and not with others. The complaints have gotten back to him and he tries to supplement the criticism by lavishing expensive gifts on women. Mainly, large sums of cash, expensive bling, houses and luxury cars.

    Hint: You don't have to follow sports to know who this superstar athlete is.
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    1. 12/9/2007 8:18 PM c in atl wrote:
      Even though I feel Shaq is to easy of an answer I Will say him, or Gary Sheffield
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  • 12/9/2007 4:44 PM CHELL wrote:
    I think it's shaq, super head said he was NOT endowed
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    1. 12/9/2007 9:23 PM SugarPlum wrote:
      He's not...
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      1. 12/10/2007 6:35 AM Ms Nicole wrote:
        Okay...I believe you!
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      2. 12/10/2007 5:42 PM v8splash wrote:
        how short is he coming up?lmao seriously I wanna know? Just curious .If it is that bad then you'd think he would stay with the woman that loves him!
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  • 12/9/2007 4:50 PM slhbabydoll98 wrote:
    I think it's shaq also, I've heard about him messing w/ non black women on the low
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  • 12/9/2007 4:55 PM Elle wrote:
    I agree, Shaq.
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  • 12/9/2007 5:05 PM shortness wrote:
    I agree SHAQ
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  • 12/9/2007 5:14 PM CHELL wrote:
    Myra and Co. I believe this on was pretty easy, my son 16 year old actually guessed it.
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  • 12/9/2007 5:21 PM Coco Puffs wrote:
    I'm 99.9 percent sure its Shaq...When the Kobe scandal broke he said " Shaq does it too"... Supahead said in her book after having sex with Shaq i beleive he credited her account with a large sum of money...
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  • 12/9/2007 5:26 PM denise wrote:
    If this is shaq, he got the nerve for being made at shani for treating and he payin millions for abortions and got women in every area code, what a double standard idiot
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  • 12/9/2007 5:27 PM Ashley Carmichael (staff writer) wrote:
    Paris is on assignment and will not be providing clues this evening or tomorrow (Monday).
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  • 12/9/2007 5:35 PM anon2 wrote:
    I heard Magic Johnson also desires white women and only married cookie because his mother wanted him with a black woman. I heard he prefers white women over black women even though he's married to a black woman and I heard Norm Nixon has the same type of attitude, he married early before this white/latina woman craze.
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    1. 12/9/2007 9:23 PM lakergirl wrote:
      magic in an equal opportunity person. but i can assure you he does not prefer white women over black women, and he did not marry cookie because of his mother.
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      1. 12/10/2007 2:13 PM anon2 wrote:
        In all do respect I have been in the company of Magic, as a crowd of us entered a private party, he stated, look at all these beautiful white women here, I am in paradise. And he made other questionable statements in regard to white beauty and how if he wasn't married, he would have hooked up with one.
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        1. 12/10/2007 3:42 PM Stam Bag Fan wrote:
          Sickening. And yet if he had married some white groupie he would be divorced and likley not as sucessful as he has been, seeing as the black man with the black family role model line has worked so well for his image.
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        2. 12/10/2007 9:35 PM lakergirl wrote:
          with all due respect...i have been a personal friend more than 30 years. at his level he deals with (and has dealt with) all types, but he was and still would (if he did it again) marry a black woman.
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  • 12/9/2007 6:16 PM foxybrown1972 wrote:
    Good evening/morning everyone... Another good one Paris... because this could be any baller... I think this one is about SHAQ!!

    I live in South Florida.. lets just say that he has been seen driving in a Bentley - sunken in his seat (hiding)-driving to a house in 'south florida' that belongs to a latina with kids. This woman doesn't need his money.. She has a very successful career so she has a beautiful house and drives a new black bmw. Believe me she can hold her own.. He stays there for several hours a few times a week - very discreet.

    I'm not saying that this is the latin women he is in love with, but he is there a lot.. I mean A LOT!!! The funny thing is ... that everyone in the neighborhood knows and he has no idea!!!

    As I said... It could be a number of ballers.. and a couple of them have tried to get with me..(I make my own money, trust me, my health is more important.. IF YOU GET WHAT I'M SAYING!.. plus I am married and faithful)...

    My finger points to him.. honestly, I dont know how he has the time to do it (he's with several woman at one time).. what time does he have for his kids?.. not to be judgmental.. but its unfortunate!
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    1. 12/9/2007 7:57 PM claudia wrote:
      Once again, another BI proven to be true judging on what u say, how da hell do they keep getting this info. Watch, if him and shaunie divorce, he going straight up white. Mark my words.
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    2. 12/9/2007 8:03 PM anon2 wrote:
      I wonder if this the same latino chick they're talking about in the blind item. Wonder what he's going to do now, outside of the neighbors knowing, due to this BI, the whole world knows now, lol.
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    3. 12/10/2007 11:35 AM JC wrote:
      BOY! you are one smart lady to not take any of the ballers' offers. AND how on earth do SHAQ think people are not going to notice him---isn't like 7 foot tall?
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  • 12/9/2007 6:29 PM NtheKnow wrote:
    Greetings one and all. I agree with the majority of the previous responders... I think that it may be Shaq.

    I get the sense that Shaq really values and respects his parents and their religious background (Muslim), so I could see him marrying and dating black women while probably secretly desiring women of other ethnic backgrounds.

    It is unfortunate that the baller didn't marry the person who he really wanted. However, based on the BI, even when he had the opportunity to be with his love, he was still involved with other women - how else did he have children?

    Anyway, if he's married and still seeing many others, perhaps it is a good thing that he didn't marry his true love. Clearly he is unable to be faithful, and he probably would not have been faithful to her either.
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    1. 12/10/2007 11:40 AM JC wrote:
      So does NOT marrying a true love make it easier to CHEAT---maybe. But,your partner still gets hurt by the behavior or disease you bring back.
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  • 12/9/2007 6:33 PM Trinity wrote:
    hope its not KG...thats my man
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    1. 12/9/2007 8:05 PM Anonymous wrote:
      Are you talking about Kevin Garnett?
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      1. 12/10/2007 7:03 AM Trinity wrote:
        Yes
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    2. 12/9/2007 10:45 PM SugarPlum wrote:
      I was thinking the same thing...I hope its not him either.
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    3. 12/10/2007 6:19 AM c in atl wrote:
      Is Kevin Garnett married?
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      1. 12/10/2007 6:40 AM Ms Nicole wrote:
        Yes. He either got married Summer 2004 or 2005.
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        1. 12/10/2007 7:50 AM Just Saying wrote:
          I don't believed he and his wife have children as of yet so this may rule him out??
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        2. 12/10/2007 8:53 AM anon2 wrote:
          KG married the sister of Jimmy Jam's wife. KG and Jam are brother in laws
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  • 12/9/2007 6:40 PM Sick of this Crap wrote:
    This has Shaq Big Dummy written all over it

    When will these ballers learn, that no amount of money can keep you HIV Negative if you are out there sleeping with any and everything.

    I also wonder why the preference for a white or latina golddigger? It should be plain as day that anyone dealing with a married man w/children along with multiple other women, is really only about the dollar bills.
    Why do these black athletes not know the difference between true affection and prostitution? These men defintely are so supceptible to golddiggers.
    Barry Bonds, OJ Simpson, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Rick Foxx always keep the "respectable" black wife, trick off w/white hos while they are married, get divorces and then date or marry a young trashy white woman who puts all their business on front street when the marriage gets rocky or the money gets on the low. One thing I know for sure is a white groupie will never say no to these ballers sexual requests no matter how demoralizing or disgusting.
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    1. 12/9/2007 7:14 PM Carolina Girl 80 wrote:
      I agree with what you said here. In my blog, My entries about Divorce NFL Style ask the almost the same question about these athletes. They wont be fathful.

      Why would they get married when they know good and damn well that they are gonna cheat? Why risk half of their fourtune when it is cheaper to be single?

      You can see those entries at

      http://firstandgoal.wordpress.com
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      1. 12/9/2007 7:37 PM Sick of this Crap wrote:
        Thnks 4 this info, very interesting!
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      2. 12/10/2007 7:29 AM lioness wrote:
        I don't think you should be so hard on them ..They are taught to start a family and continue thier line . they also like sex / beautiful women ! There are alot of ugly sportsmen , very few cute ones ... When they get this fame , thier dreams come true , it's like they are kids in a candy store ... Don't blame the man blame society ,... Only in this society can a man earn millions for throwing a ball , where teachers are paid next to nothing , to teach the future.
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        1. 12/10/2007 7:54 AM Just Saying wrote:
          Sorry this same society perpetuates racial stereotypes, drug abuse and other negative things..Can you go to court and say "Your Honor, Society Made me do it"

          Bottom line is Right is right and wrong is wrong, Each person must take responsibility.
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        2. 12/10/2007 10:04 AM diva wrote:
          They have to take responsibility for their own actions but I get your point because rappers are so ugly like russ, diddy, jay-z, craig mack, too short, and most of them date pretty women because of their money only. Look at donald trump, you think he would be able to get a date if he wasn't rich.
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        3. 12/10/2007 10:13 AM Carolina Girl 80 wrote:
          I'm not trying to be hard on these guys but what is the point of getting married when they know that the will not stop sexin other women.

          Then, they'll complain about giving up half. Its better to stay single as an active athlete and marry after they retire.

          Speaking of the unfortunate looking sportsmen, how about this scrub for Cavs talking shit about how hes the best looking athelete in Cleveland and in the NBA? Must be the money.
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          1. 12/10/2007 10:32 AM denise wrote:
            That fool is seriously on meth. He look like shyt.
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            1. 12/10/2007 1:48 PM So for Real wrote:
              And he has baby teeth and taco meat on his chest, talking bout Women chase him and if they dnt they will never get to know him..I am here to tell you that he does chase women and will even beg!
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              1. 12/10/2007 2:26 PM Trinity wrote:
                lol.....taco meet??
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        4. 12/10/2007 3:50 PM Stam Bag Fan wrote:
          These fools get married because they want that image of the good man married at home with the children. It helps with endorsements and such. They truly believe that the wife and the other broads are different beings alltogether. They want the sista they can take to events and show off, bring around the family and pose for pics with. Then they take the mistresses that has had extensive plastic surgery, feeds their ego and does not bring them any real life problems etc to take on the trips and lounge by the pool and bring their girlfriends by for threesomes etc. It's sad to think in many circles this is normal and expected behavior. Interesting though, if the s*** hits the fan, they turn millitant black real quick and forever whine how they can't do this and that because they are black men in society.
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    2. 12/9/2007 8:00 PM anon2 wrote:
      Funny you mention Rick Fox because his dumb ass brother married a blonde playmate, he pretended to be a baller outside the game. Had her thinking he had matchable income to his brother, when she found out otherwise, she filed for divorce. He uses his brother's celebrity trying to always get over.
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      1. 12/9/2007 9:08 PM Alikat wrote:
        Now that is funny...
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    3. 12/10/2007 11:44 AM JC wrote:
      THAT'S WHY THEY ARE SO INTO THEM--- GOLDDIGGERS,WHITE GROUPIES,ETC. THEY OR MANY WILL DO ANYTHING WITH ANYONE.
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    4. 12/10/2007 12:12 PM anonymous1 wrote:
      Ok,

      Why is it always a stereotype that white women are up to ANYTHING in bed? There are many women of other races who will do risque or adventurous things.

      Having lived in the US for a long time I find that ALL of the races are obsessed with color and stereotypes. It saddens and disheartens me that in this day and age all these stereotypes still exist.
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      1. 12/10/2007 3:09 PM JC wrote:
        Fact: Most groupies hanging around black athletes in the U.S. are white females or often white female groupies are choosen by the black athletes to go to the after parties because guys themselves say the white groupies will do anything or almost anything with them. These same guys complain black females they know will not do half the stuff/things white females do. Color often comes up in the U.S. along with other issues such as age, beauty, status,etc. Other countries status or class comes up a lot----color is connected but not mentioned or referred to directly. For ex. in many countries the more european or non-european one looks often equates or is connected to that persons status & class/privilege or advantages & disadvantages in that society. Another ex. in england,france, etc. how do they tell the difference between themselves and the muslims in their society without the head dress or clothing (dark/tan skin,beards, hair
        texture,etc.). In other words many of them do not look very european; some may be light skinned but many are not pale enough to look aryan ,etc.
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        1. 12/10/2007 3:21 PM JC wrote:
          BUT I DO AGREE IT IS A STEREOTYPLE THAT
          PEOPLE THINK WHITE FEMALES/WOMEN WILL DO ANYTHING. BUT,KEEP IN MINE IT IS THE BLACK GUYS WHO IS SAYING THIS STUFF
          IN THIS CASE (black athletes, entertainers,etc.). The truth is these men want to be with these women & it is the men that will do anything with them.
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          1. 12/10/2007 3:30 PM JC wrote:
            BUT THE WOMEN HAVE TO BE DOWN OR GAME.
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        2. 12/10/2007 3:50 PM JC wrote:
          CORRECTION: I meant to say how do europeans tell the difference between themselves and the arabs (muslims) in their countries (arabs/muslims is getting a lot of press time & issues keep coming up).
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  • 12/9/2007 6:43 PM Sick of this Crap wrote:
    Also allowing yourslef to be paid 3 million dollars to abort a baby! If that didn't tell Shaq that he was dealing with someone who only considers him a PAYCHECK then what will? I wonder if the trick was really even pregnant. Once again sounds like Shaq the Big Dummy.
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  • 12/9/2007 7:34 PM Ga Girl wrote:
    I initially thought Shaq as soon as I read this also,but that just seems to easy.....
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    1. 12/10/2007 4:17 AM Janet Jackson's Valtrex wrote:
      True! Myra and Paris usually don't give easy to solve BI's. So therefore, I don't believe it's Shaq.
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      1. 12/10/2007 6:09 AM Ron Mexico's Valtrex and TO's Zoloft wrote:
        Yes they do, we get a mixture of obvious and not so obvious.
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        1. 12/10/2007 6:11 AM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
          Loving your handles, hilarious, ROFLMAO
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      2. 12/10/2007 10:50 AM eyeonu2 wrote:
        &J.J. V's...is this Paris H. V's? Did you really change your handle? I spit my juice out when I saw that! Too damn funny!!!
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        1. 12/10/2007 3:01 PM Janet Jackson's Valtrex wrote:
          Yes it's me. I changed my name during the last BI when someone brought up the Janet Jackson scandal involving Janet using her maid's name for her Valtrex prescriptions, LOL....

          I'm dying at the Ron Mexico handle!
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          1. 12/10/2007 4:18 PM Ron Mexico's Valtrex and TO's Zoloft wrote:
            And I'm new but I read about MVick getting his herpes meds under the name Ron Mexico plus when TO "didnt" attemp to off himself and ended up on antidepressants!
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            1. 12/10/2007 5:56 PM Janet Jackson's Valtrex wrote:
              I made so much fun about Michael Vick when that happened. I didn't know you can use an alias on court documents. That whole situation was so messed up!

              On a side note, did u see the picture of him either earlier this year or last year, when he was in a limo with a girl smoking a blunt but...he had a big cold sore on his lip?!? And the female he was with was all on his shoulder with a big smile on her face. I hope that was a family member and not his date! And I hope she kept her clothes on!
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              1. 12/11/2007 7:20 AM Ron Mexico's Valtrex and TO's Zoloft wrote:
                I did and I also remember the 2 females that sued him and won for infecting them w/Herpes!!

                Someone also put TO on blast for being so angry/depressed because he can not come out of the closet. I forgot what board that was on but it was pretty doggone juicy!
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    2. 12/10/2007 12:07 PM Bingo wrote:
      I think they gave us an easy one because they won't be available for clues.
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      1. 12/10/2007 12:56 PM Trinity wrote:
        oh yeah....that maybe true
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      2. 12/10/2007 1:15 PM Gne wrote:
        We deserve an easy one after Friday's Game on Lock...
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      3. 12/10/2007 6:00 PM Janet Jackson's Valtrex wrote:
        They might give us an unsolvable one like the Bisexual, non-talent, heroin addicted female who was sexing a famous actress from a sitcom.
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  • 12/9/2007 7:58 PM Anonymous wrote:
    Damn, he gets around, and got the nerve to be made that his wife is cheating. If she has ten men, she still got nothing on him.
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  • 12/9/2007 8:06 PM gorgeous sable wrote:
    This is my shaq baby, such a cheater but so, so generous. He just can't keep it in his pants, poor baby.
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    1. 12/9/2007 8:31 PM Sick of this Crap wrote:
      So would u count him as under endowed and lacking skills as Superskank said?

      I need a 2nd opinion because I do not trust a word out of that skanks mouth :/ !
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      1. 12/10/2007 5:41 AM gorgeous sable wrote:
        Sick Of This Crap: Although I have not been with him, my friend says she was with Martin Lawrence and he ain't packing much either.
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        1. 12/10/2007 6:11 AM Sick of this Crap wrote:
          UR poor friend to have to deal with Martins face and then to not be packing on top of that

          Yuckety, yuck!
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          1. 12/10/2007 1:20 PM Temple Hills wrote:
            I recall one of Martin's stand up routines where he referred to himself as a..."thick d*ck n*gg*r"...
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            1. 12/10/2007 1:56 PM Ron Mexico's Valtrex and TO's Zoloft wrote:
              Girl, 9 times out of 10 if they talk about they are lying.
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  • 12/9/2007 8:20 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
    @G. Sable- thanks for sharing. You always post something interesting He is my guess as well, sounds like this is a worst kept secret.
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    1. 12/10/2007 5:36 AM gorgeous sable wrote:
      Thank you eyeonyou, superhead spoke the gospel truth but JD is smaller than him, you need a magnifying glass with that one. Him and JJ most be using sex toys.
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      1. 12/10/2007 6:28 AM Peaches wrote:
        LOL!! Magnifying glass?! Sable, I just choked on my bacon! You are hilarious!
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        1. 12/10/2007 6:32 AM gorgeous sable wrote:
          Girl, I know men who were born with more than JD has. JJ must be sprung on the toys because there is no meat to be sprung on. He can barely write, his grill is jacked, he is a midget and he is gawd awful ugly and she is sprung out of her mind. He can barely put two sentences together. She went from hung like a donkey (rene) to hung like a newborn.
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          1. 12/10/2007 6:41 AM Ron Mexico's Valtrex and TO's Zoloft wrote:
            Then maybe JD is the answer to a past BI regarding a mogul who has to use toys to satisfy women and he pays women to brag about his prowess.

            Maybe JD treats Janet like a queen, in the scheme of things a climax can be achieved lots of different ways but having someone treat u right is priceless
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            1. 12/10/2007 8:51 AM gorgeous sable wrote:
              A lot of men would treat JJ like a queen. My friend slept with him and said the penetration was like a finger nail, he is so little
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              1. 12/10/2007 9:06 AM c in atl wrote:
                Stop, being bad! LOL
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              2. 12/10/2007 9:15 AM anon2 wrote:
                Lady Sable, you are too funny but u speak non-fiction, I heard he is way little, like a underdeveloped man, little boy underwear and jock strap.
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                1. 12/10/2007 9:55 AM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
                  Anon2, since we are a few of the insiders in here, why don't we ask Myra or Paris if we can host the chat board, and we can supply the back stories to the blind items. Of course I would have to do my hosting duties between my dates and excursions. Hit me back.
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                2. 12/10/2007 1:35 PM Ione wrote:
                  Ugh is JD that small where it does not hang? lol
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              3. 12/10/2007 6:04 PM v8splash wrote:
                smdh you know I only see this after waiting to sleep with someone and then , they end up being really sweet !Because if I give you try then ,you coming up short we may not be able to continue. this Has got to be love. Ask me how I know?Trust I know. And I was certainly getting" no pleasure" out of it but, being with him and being treated like a queen .I still would have been with him until this day had his wife from 6 states over not followed me from my office to my house.I was mad as Hell with him charges were almost brought!shot out to frankie Mitchell in Atlanta Georgia with your lil D### how is the wife and two sets of twins?
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          2. 12/10/2007 10:37 AM Alikat wrote:
            WOW...not hung like a newborn!!!

            I said to myself "what does Janet see in this lolipop guild kid? he must be hung like a stallion"
            Now it comes out that he's not even packing!!!
            He must be a REALLY REALLY nice guy...
            True love prevails - good for them.
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  • 12/9/2007 8:33 PM CHELL wrote:
    I wonder if he has any kids with the spanish girl on the low?
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    1. 12/9/2007 8:35 PM shortness wrote:
      Or any other woman!!! besides his first born
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    2. 12/10/2007 5:37 AM gorgeous sable wrote:
      Chell: Most of these athletes have outside kids, if a sportsman doesn't have any, his teammate has two, they multiply like bey bey's kids. These women throw themselves at them, they don't care if they are married.
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      1. 12/10/2007 6:23 PM CHELL wrote:
        just saw this, I guess your right it really is so sad, But I guess the saying is use what your mama gave ya holds true for these chicks
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      2. 12/10/2007 6:24 PM CHELL wrote:
        just saw this, I guess your right it really is so sad, But I guess the saying is use what your mama gave ya holds true for these chicks
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  • 12/9/2007 8:42 PM Peaches wrote:
    The same way K.Fed's ppl have contacted some websites and blogs for info to use in their case against Britney, I would not be surprised if Shaunie's ppl contact Myra about this. I'm sure we'll see this come out when their divorce is really on blast.
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    1. 12/10/2007 5:40 AM gorgeous sable wrote:
      And Myra can always deny that it is not Shaq because she didn't say what field the sportsman was in. But you are right, bloggers are fiyah and have taken over the media game. I remember on this very blog when they had an announcement on the front page saying that the tabloids contacted them trying to dig info up on Tyra and Teresa Witherspoon.
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      1. 12/12/2007 9:08 AM NicScorp wrote:
        You better stop with the Tyra and Teresa Witherspoon! Sounds like the answer to another blind item!
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  • 12/9/2007 8:52 PM Myra's BFF wrote:
    I'm gonna ride the Shaq train on this one, although I think this can be any baller.

    And 3 million dollars for an abortion..... Is that the going rate for a fetus now a days? I'm not trying to be funny, but whoever said you can't put a price on life apparently has never hooked up with an NBA player.

    Shaq is what... 6"8? And you telling me he is under endowed? What's the point in being with him? He's not really cute, his vocabulary is on the same level as Are You Smarter Than A Fifth Grader... And now you're saying he has a small wee wee to boot. What's left.... Oh yeah, he has a nice personality.

    Then again he has some kind of sense. He knows how to count up to 3 million.
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    1. 12/10/2007 6:01 AM gorgeous sable wrote:
      Karrine said on the Jamie Fox satellite radio show that he was little and she's telling the truth but he is a nice guy. Everyone can't be packing.
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    2. 12/10/2007 6:04 AM gorgeous sable wrote:
      lol @
      Then again he has some kind of sense. He knows how to count up to 3 million.
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    3. 12/10/2007 6:49 AM Ms Nicole wrote:
      No, worse...Shaq is listed as 7'1" and 325 pounds and said to be under endowed...with a monotone voice, limited vocabulary and diminishing abilities on the court. But with a nice personality. LOL But I agree with the others who think the Shaq guess is too easy. But there aren't too many players you don't have to be a sports fan to know who are married to Black women. Dang...that's sad.
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    4. 12/10/2007 7:13 AM Trinity wrote:
      shaq is 7'1...he was 6'8 when he was a baby
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  • 12/9/2007 8:52 PM CHELL wrote:
    These athletes are idiots! But these chicks are crazy, i guess they need to be paid for thier time and effort since they need to spend time and abort these idiots babies. LOSERS all of them.
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    1. 12/10/2007 6:06 AM gorgeous sable wrote:
      I agree, the men are just as bad as the women, in this day and age having unprotected sex, cheating and aborting. Some people don't learn, no wonder AIDS is exploding in urban areas. Look at this behavior of the black rich and famous.
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      1. 12/10/2007 11:59 AM JC wrote:
        SCARY!!!!! Watch out ladies these people do come home to roose every once in a while---that is also why many deseases are up in urban areas.
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        1. 12/10/2007 3:27 PM JC wrote:
          CORRECTION: Diseases are up in urban areas because every once in a while these same men com home to roost----
          SCARY!!!! Be careful ladies.
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  • 12/9/2007 9:07 PM Gorgeous One wrote:
    I must concur...it's the Big Man, Shaq! Don't be stupid, my brother. You can end up with roaches, fleas, or a sexually transmitted disease!
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  • 12/9/2007 9:43 PM kit wrote:
    SHAQ ALL THE WAY
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  • 12/9/2007 10:22 PM cocoalatte wrote:
    Shaq all the way to the bank.His wife is black.He seems to adore his children and has many (thankfully most by his wife)! I have heard that it was said by some his bed skills left much to be desired, but hes very generous with women that he takes a liking to,and it never stopped having girlfriends even after marriage to his wife.Its also been said he purchased a home for a woman(women)in another state .
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  • 12/9/2007 10:25 PM Gorgeous One wrote:
    I must say that I am shocked to hear that his lovemaking is not a "slam dunk." Maybe Mr. Superstar should use those Icy/Hot patches he endorses to "warm up before the big event!"
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  • 12/9/2007 10:38 PM cocoalatte wrote:
    Im actualy surprised that people are so shocked that Shaq is a cheater! I'll go so far as to step out and say that most of these pro ballers are! Finding one who is 100 % appreciative of what he has at home and faithful to his wife is like a needle in a damn haystack. These men have the money to play ,the way they want to play,and women throw themselves at them at every angle. Some women do NOT care that these men are married, but do most opportunistic individuals really care about anyone but themselves ?
    When Shaq raised that hoopla over Shaunies alleged misdeeds with his money (which becomes community property when you marry )and then the accusations of infedility on her part, I wasnt impressed. As said if she creeped with someone else she still had nothing on his cheating which has been ongoing.
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    1. 12/10/2007 8:08 AM GameDoctor wrote:
      The only one I can think right off the cuff is possibly Doug Christie...
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    2. 12/10/2007 10:18 AM Deanna wrote:
      Yeah, Doug Christie is probably the only one who is faithful to his wife...but she's crazy (from what I've heard) so he's probably scared of her.

      I also heard that Ray Allen is faithful to his, too, but I could be wrong.
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      1. 12/10/2007 10:29 AM anon2 wrote:
        and Grant Hill is supposed to be faithful but that didn't stop Mariah from trying
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        1. 12/10/2007 2:02 PM Ron Mexico's Valtrex and TO's Zoloft wrote:
          Now i thought Mariah was really playing for the other team? She tried to get at Ears Hill?
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      2. 12/10/2007 10:41 AM Phillygurl wrote:
        what about grant hill? he seems like he would be faithfull to tamia.
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        1. 12/10/2007 2:05 PM anon2 wrote:
          He is but Mariah still called him up when Grant and Tamia were engaged. She asked him out and he told her, now you know I am with Tamia. Doug Christie is scared to leave his crazy wife, she might take them all out.
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      3. 12/10/2007 12:20 PM Bingo wrote:
        Ya damn right about that. Hell, she scares me. Remember when she tried to fight Shaq? That chick is batshit crazy.
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      4. 12/10/2007 3:58 PM Stam Bag Fan wrote:
        Doug Christie's wife will follow him into a bathroom, she does NOT play. I understand her game plan and all, but for real that would get real old real quick. Who wants someone you have to trail around like Secret Service all day? If he's going to be faithful, he will. If he's not interested, he won't.
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        1. 12/11/2007 7:28 AM Ron Mexico's Valtrex and TO's Zoloft wrote:
          One thing on the bathroom situation, Doug and other NBA ballers said: that after groupies started hiding in bathrooms and offering sex for money and then trying to blackmail several married players (even if the player) said No, that security had to start checking all the bathrooms to stop this from happening.
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    3. 12/10/2007 3:38 PM JC wrote:
      I think he accused his wife of infidelity to smear her name in the public eye and at the same time try to make sure she doesn't get much in the divorce settlement by calling her character into question. HE NOT THAT DUM!!! Big boy got some tricks up his sleeves.
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  • 12/9/2007 10:42 PM cocoalatte wrote:
    I'm not surprised because things arent always what they seem,and I dont buy into the whole big feet and hand, or big man = big private parts theory! Its not always true!lol
    For the right price some women will over look certain things.
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    1. 12/10/2007 8:09 AM Anonymous wrote:
      this is true - its all about the NOSE! wide, prominant nose + proportinate body parts = endowment.
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      1. 12/10/2007 10:43 AM nugman wrote:
        This is true. I remember reading this in my biology textbook.
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      2. 12/10/2007 10:57 AM Deanna wrote:
        I've ran into a few exceptions to that rule...I'm just saying!
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        1. 12/10/2007 12:24 PM Bingo wrote:
          The penis is just an organ. It's size doesn't necessarily correlate to anything. I'm sure Shag has become used to women's jaws dropping after the panties dropped.
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  • 12/9/2007 10:46 PM cocoalatte wrote:
    Also I can see why he would talk another woman into havign an abortion ,because prenup or not ,having outside children and proven infedility could have serious implications for him in divorce proceedings, and his wife would be entitled to more (esp) if there is a clause in the prenup that states such!
    As long as she does NOT catch him (its speculation and assumption) but a baby esp with a paternity suit to prove hes the father , leaves no room for doubt .
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  • 12/9/2007 11:04 PM mooreperfect wrote:
    shaq...first that came to mind
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  • 12/9/2007 11:25 PM Toodles wrote:
    I'm curious are there any athletes or celebrities that are known to be faithful?
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    1. 12/10/2007 5:43 AM gorgeous sable wrote:
      darling, none that I know of
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  • 12/9/2007 11:26 PM SugarPlum wrote:
    Okay, I'm new here so please bear with me. This one seemed too easy. Maybe I'm reading too much (or too little) into this, but its fun nonetheless. Aren't there any other possibilities other than Shaq? The BI said that the baller "is" juggling a wife...not sure that Shaq is dealing with, let alone juggling, Shaunie anymore.

    Two other players popped into my head, of course Shaq was the first. Maybe Kevin Garnett or Allen Iverson *clutching my pearls*...oh how I hope its not Allen...women complaining about HIS lovemaking...that would be just awful.
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    1. 12/10/2007 2:31 AM Fire&Desire wrote:
      In Carmen Bryans book (Nas ex-girlfriend/babys mother) she says Allen puts it down in the bedroom, according to her it was on and poppin so I doubt it's Allen, plus just by his swag I dont get that vibe from him (crybaby and all)
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      1. 12/10/2007 5:46 AM gorgeous sable wrote:
        Allen dates black but I keep hearing rumors that him and his wife are splitting. I am not usually attracted to thug types but AI is fine as hell. Sexy tats, cornroll. He is so sexy. The black tell-all industry is finished. Carmen's book was a big time failure and Karrine's second book was horrible. People are sick of this genre so the famous men can breathe a sigh of relief for the time being.
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        1. 12/10/2007 12:11 PM JC wrote:
          BLOGS LIKE THIS ONE ARE OUT SHINING MANY TELL ALL BOOK THESE DAYS!!!! AND CYCBERSPACE IS FASTER IN RELAYING INFO.
          IDEA----a tell all book according to info. found in subjects or BI'S from bloggers. Just a fun thought!
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      2. 12/10/2007 10:21 AM Deanna wrote:
        AI dates black...this is one of the few things I personally know some details about. LOL! And the details I know involve a black porn star and financial negotiations that he wouldn't pay.
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        1. 12/10/2007 10:36 AM gorgeous sable wrote:
          Oh really, hmmm, care to share who the black porn star is?
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  • 12/10/2007 2:24 AM Blacksheep wrote:
    Is this the easiest blind item ever written here or what? NOTE TO STAFF: no need for a random front page entry on The Shaq in a few days!
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  • 12/10/2007 5:59 AM Troy wrote:
    Hey Myra, are you giving your private super bowl party this year like you do every year? My friends and I had a blast last year, and we enjoyed meeting you, the celebrities and the food and the musical performers were great! I'm asking early because I know tickets and dinner packages sold out quick last year and I remember you saying you were going to have another one in the ATL and Chi-Town. I emailed you but I know you are really busy but check your myspace when you get a chance and please let me know asap.
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    1. 12/10/2007 9:57 AM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
      I was one of the gorgeous girls at the party last year. Can't wait for the one this year but they are a little late getting invites out this year.
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  • 12/10/2007 6:03 AM Anonymous wrote:
    I'm thinking over here, the blind items are usually a lot harder, I wonder if this is really shaq, too bad we don't have Paris to do the notting.
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    1. 12/10/2007 6:12 AM c in atl wrote:
      Exactly, this is to easy, to be Shaq.
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      1. 12/10/2007 6:33 AM gorgeous sable wrote:
        I think it is shaq but you may be right.
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      2. 12/10/2007 7:49 AM Trinity wrote:
        maybe we have not put enough names out there - everybody saying shaq....trying to get the hints in the BI...american basketball is not an international sport
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      3. 12/10/2007 10:25 AM Deanna wrote:
        Yeah, it seems way too easy for Shaq to be the answer. And nobody has really mentioned any other sports out there, like football.

        Don't football players get paid more than basketball players, in general?

        And, I could be wrong, but it seems like baseball players get paid more than basketball and football.
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        1. 12/10/2007 10:48 AM Trinity wrote:
          Hey Deanne - the highest paid ballers are baseball, basketball & football in that order

          A-rod is asking for $340 million next yr which is why he may not be a yankee for much longer
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  • 12/10/2007 6:21 AM Just Asking wrote:
    Could it also be Kobe since he lived in Italy for a while? Before his marriage Kobe had Black girlfriends.....
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  • 12/10/2007 6:24 AM c in atl wrote:
    This is not Kobe BI said baller's wife is black..
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  • 12/10/2007 6:42 AM Dude N'em wrote:
    This sounds like Shaq here are a few reasons:

    1. When Kobe was in the rape scandal he went on record stating that he should have just paid off women like Shaq does.

    2. Shaq's wife was actually one of his employees believe finance manager women before Shaq hooked up with her and wedded her only after she became pregnant with two of his kids.

    3. Well known Shaq has a liking for Latino women this has been publicly reported during his supposedly split with shaunie.

    4. Karrine Steffan's in her book stated how Shaq at 7'0 was very under endowed.

    5. Very known he give money and expensive gifts to women.

    However with all that said, he is supposedly going through a divorce but haven't heard anything on that recently.
    But like most have stated this was too obvious, I will wait to see if Myra/Paris NOT him first...that is the clue I looking for without that then this is dead on Shaq!!
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  • 12/10/2007 7:13 AM Bullrider wrote:
    Goodmorning everyone, I think I am going to go with the general consensus this morning and guess Shaq as well. Kinda feel sorry for him though, I don't understand how he is going to be upset with Shaunie for her side dish when he knows he has skeleton's in his closet. I think he should just "man up" and do the right thing. If he indeed doesn't want Shaunie no more let her go.....and do what's right for him/her/and the kids!!!
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  • 12/10/2007 7:32 AM Nyllatoo wrote:
    I do think that Shaq fits the BI very well. I am just going to throw some other names out there as a possibility.

    Stephon Marbury
    Dwayne Wade
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  • 12/10/2007 8:45 AM Trinity wrote:
    Are Shaq & Shaunie even together?

    This does not fit

    "Allegedly, he got married for the wrong reasons. He tells friends that he felt obligated and the kids made him happy-not his wife."

    Shaq stole Shaunie from another man.
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    1. 12/10/2007 9:08 AM diva wrote:
      They are attempting to reconcile, I think.
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    2. 12/10/2007 9:20 AM Ron Mexico's Valtrex and TO's Zoloft wrote:
      Right but did He just want to hit and quit but then she ended up pregnant 2x's before he decided to marry her??

      Shaq wanted what was challenge (OPP) and then Shaunie had 2 babies and was pregnant w/the 3rd BEFORE they got married.
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      1. 12/10/2007 9:23 AM Trinity wrote:
        I read she was pregnant when he met her
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        1. 12/10/2007 9:47 AM diva wrote:
          She secured her future by making sure she will get paid. He cheats on her like crazy.
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        2. 12/10/2007 11:03 AM Deanna wrote:
          Sounds to me like BOTH of them are super-scandalous and they need to stay together so they aren't putting all that drama in someone else's life.
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  • 12/10/2007 10:07 AM cocoalatte wrote:
    Well I mean considering how thy hooked up what did he expect! Didnt he know her "very" well? People just dont understand the law of karma! lol With all them kids they need to try and reconcile ,because its cheaper to keep her at this point! She had those children back to back fast!If hes that unhappy ,he'll have to work out a settlement of some kind that both will be happy with!They just had a newborn daughter a few months ago!
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    1. 12/10/2007 11:05 AM Deanna wrote:
      A new daughter recently??? Good Grief!
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  • 12/10/2007 10:08 AM cocoalatte wrote:
    I meant didnt he know her ex very well?
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    1. 12/10/2007 10:38 AM diva wrote:
      The ex was one of his reps, Shaq and Shaunie were creeping on the sly and then she left her husband for shaq. When you don't get together right, karma comes back to haunt you and these kind of relationships never work. The same way she cheated on her husband, shaq is now cheating on her, x10.
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  • 12/10/2007 10:39 AM nugman wrote:
    Shaq Shaq Shaq Brother!

    You mean to tell me that you left a beautiful Latina who:

    1. truly loved you for who you are

    2. had a great sense of honor and family values

    3. never asked for gifts or money

    4. never publicly ridiculed your "manhood" and your love making skills

    so you could be with:

    1. devious hoes who charge you $3,000,000 of your hard earned wealth for abortions

    2. nasty skanks who write books about your genitals and how much sweat you left on the mattress, how classy

    3. ungrateful skeezers who publicly snitch on your sheet action, then accept your gifts

    4. deceivers who hide YOUR money in secret accounts and sleep with their trainers.

    Damn! Just damn. I will pray for you my brother. When you are lucky enough to find someone who loves you for you, you hold on to that personal for dear life. Women like that are extremely hard to find. In light of your recent marital woes, I would suggest you get divorced and reconnect with that angel who graced your life. You will be so much happier. You deserve that.
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    1. 12/10/2007 11:01 AM Deanna wrote:
      Interesting synopsis of Shaq's life. I'm sure he would love this breakdown...especially considering that you left out the fact that he VOLUNTARILY pays women for their time and company, showers them with gifts VOLUNTARILY.

      I mean, do you really think that multiple women have manipulated him out of millions???? He comes across as dumb, but not that damn dumb! Sorry!
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    2. 12/10/2007 3:55 PM JC wrote:
      THIS WOMAN would have been in the same position as the present wife. Maybe ready to divorce his cheating ass!!! Being a black ,latina,white,etc. women is not going make that much of difference to a cheating brotha.
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  • 12/10/2007 11:00 AM nugman wrote:
    Message to Shaq:

    If the cooch don't fit, you must acquit!

    Stop paying "extra". You messing up the game. Stop training women to think they are entitled to something more because they don't like what God gave you. Kindly send them to one of the other 3 billion men on planet earth. Accept yourself as you are. There are many mandingoes in the hood who would downsize their meat factory to enjoy your lifestyle. Peace Brother.

    PS Since when did we start taking Superwhore as a source of unvarnished truth. This chick conveniently forgot to tell us that she was both a prostitute and a porn star. Oh well. God help us all!
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    1. 12/10/2007 4:05 PM JC wrote:
      WHO BETTER TO ANSWER OR HELP ANSWER SUCH QUESTIONS THAN A SEX EXPERT OR SOMEONE FROM THE ADULT INDUSTRY ( or someone who has been around the block a few times) !!! NO REASON TO USE MEAN LANGUAGE UNLESS ATTACKED. CAN WE JUST ALL GET ALONG??
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      1. 12/10/2007 4:08 PM JC wrote:
        AND NO YOU ARE NOT BEING ATTACKED. Just encase of any misunderstanding(s).
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  • 12/10/2007 11:03 AM Amber (PR Staff) wrote:
    Just curious, are you referring to black women as skeezers and hoes in comparsion to your kind statement about the "beautiful latino." If this is true, maybe Diva has been right about you all along. If you think this lowly of black women, you need to go elsewhere. AMBER
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    1. 12/10/2007 11:06 AM Deanna wrote:
      Sounds not-quite-right, right?
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    2. 12/10/2007 11:15 AM shortness wrote:
      Amber:
      It seems like you hit it right on point. I have always gotten this vibe from nugman. Either he is not black or he is a self hater who is black that wishes he wasn't. I have refrained from commenting on him for not wanting to start a riot but I think his comments are definitely derogatory towards black women.
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    3. 12/10/2007 11:19 AM denise wrote:
      Amber & PR staff: About time you got hipped to the real Nugman. He uses the name HOV on BV and he rips black women a part. In this manifest, I recognize some of the same things he says over at BV, that how I peeped it was him. He makes 10-15 threads a day on several BV boards insulting blk women, he blames them for everything wrong in the blk community. He has deep hatered for black women and what stood out to me about him was a lot of his posts are odd hours in the morning when a lot of people would not be up. He is obsessed with this subject.
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      1. 12/10/2007 11:23 AM AMBER (PR STAFF) wrote:
        Shortness: You might be right because when Myra first opened this comment section, some poster named HOV was going off on black women and I deleted the comment, I remember the screename because it is unusual because I have deleted alot of comments. Maybe nugman came back with this name to continue his tirade.
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        1. 12/10/2007 11:35 AM c in atl wrote:
          I remember HOV from Black Voices, many people thought that HOV was actually a white female because he or she was always putting down black women.
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          1. 12/10/2007 11:44 AM Denise wrote:
            That Hov person has major issues, night and day, holidays, 24/7 on a anti-black woman rant. Over there, they said it was a white canadian female but over here, the character is pretending to be a black man doing the same thing but more discreet.
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            1. 12/10/2007 12:49 PM nugman wrote:
              Jay Z sold 20 million records. He calls himself HOV. I'm sure there are alot of little hovs running around.
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              1. 12/10/2007 1:04 PM Nicole wrote:
                But the REAL HOV doesn't share the same views as you. Trust me, I know!!!
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              2. 12/10/2007 1:16 PM diva wrote:
                LMAO, now you JAY-Z, ROFLMAO, give it up, you been busted. Join the klan, they have the same ideology as you, they just hate all blacks where you just hate black women. First you said, I AM NOT HOV, then when Amber Alert said you were, now you say, SOMEBODY ELSE WAS USING MY COMPUTER. You are drowning in lies. Give it up and leave. My last post to you.
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            2. 12/10/2007 4:35 PM JC wrote:
              AND THE TRUTH COMES OUT--- NO LOVE FOR THE SISTAS/BLACK WOMEN.
              I not surprised,I've been wondering the
              same thing----if a few bloggers were undercover haters of black women.
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              1. 12/10/2007 4:42 PM JC wrote:
                I MEAN true hate in the term/meaning, Not just the popular saying or overused phrase.
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        2. 12/10/2007 11:52 AM nugman wrote:
          Being that you are a moderator, I would admonish you not to make assertions you can't back up with facts. It erodes the value or your position and of your objectivity. Your posters will begin to think you play favorites.
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          1. 12/10/2007 12:43 PM Myra wrote:
            Nugman, I don't agree with Amber doing research on you, that reeks of favortism and I will speak to her. I also don't agree on your negative comments directed and indirected towards black women. A reader emailed some of your bv statements under the name HOV, you sound like a raving self hating lunatic. We have received numerous complaints via email about your attitude. And, I always took up for you but your comments towards me as a black woman and my black female readers is like a slap in the face. That is not condoned on this site and I would act the same if somebody insulted black men. IT IS TIME FOR YOUR TO LEAVE, NUGMAN/HOV.
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            1. 12/10/2007 1:11 PM shasfreespirit wrote:
              I concur....
              Please leave Nugman, we no longer want you around.
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            2. 12/10/2007 1:22 PM da nugman wrote:
              How can someone email you something from bv and I've never posted on BV in my life. How could you possibly accept that as truth. Also, please enlighten me on what specific comment I made to you as a black woman that was a slap in the face. Have you seen some of the comments directed towards me! Comments that no one deleted!

              Your moderator accused me of calling black women skeezers and hoes which I DID NOT. Funny how women, including black women can call KIm K, Paris, Anna Nicole, Lindsey and Britney these terms and it's ok. Yet I use those words and I'm crucified. I took the time to explain my statement yet I got no response because you can't argue with honesty. Truth doesn't need an audience.

              Your moderator has no objectivity and plays favorites. I guess this is mob justice. I have been excommunicated from the PR cult. Oh well.

              So long. Let it rip nugman!
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          2. 12/10/2007 4:48 PM JC wrote:
            THE FACTS ARE YOUR OWN WORDS IN STATEMENTS & BLOGS ARE THEY NOT?
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      2. 12/10/2007 11:46 AM nugman wrote:
        The internet is an amazing thing. You can make people be who you want them to be. I never post on BV so please stop it with the made up stories. I don't have deep "hatered" for black women. I was born of a black woman. I speak as I see. Just like the gorgeous one! Amazing how people can be so sensitive, yet so ready to attack someone they don't know.
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        1. 12/10/2007 11:51 AM Amber (PR Staff) wrote:
          Nugman: Without revealing much, it has been confirmed you were Hov when you first appeared on this site. Remember, I am the moderator, I would know.
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          1. 12/10/2007 11:56 AM nugman wrote:
            Unless you saw me type a message on a computer, then it can't be confirmed. Again you are the moderator. You must maintain your objectivity.
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            1. 12/10/2007 12:10 PM Anonymous wrote:
              Not true. All comps have unique identifiers: the IP address. Regardless of the differences in poster names, if you used the same computer, it should be the same IP address.
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              1. 12/10/2007 12:21 PM Amber wrote:
                There you go, you said it. Thank-you.
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              2. 12/10/2007 12:43 PM nugman wrote:
                Same IP address means same computer NOT same poster. Before someone can "confirm" who you were they should realize that people have coworkers, friends, siblings, roommates, ex-roommates, lovers, ex-lovers who could possibly be using the same computer. I will say it again. Unless you saw ME type a message, please don't "confirm" that I did. How do you know that it wasn't a friend or ex-roommate who introduced me to this site. Maintain fairness.
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                1. 12/10/2007 12:46 PM diva wrote:
                  You sound like a desperate lying man, sinking and sinking and sinking. If you were proud of what you say, why not admit it or shut the hell up and move off the site. Let it go.
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                2. 12/10/2007 12:49 PM Trinity wrote:
                  I'm voting that it was you
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                3. 12/10/2007 12:57 PM diva wrote:
                  Myra sent you a post, above, you need to read it.
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                4. 12/10/2007 1:00 PM Anonymous wrote:
                  @Nugman

                  Your reputation (history of posting and manner in which you post) precedes you. My advice is that you manage it wisely in future posts.

                  Sure, there's the possibility that a friend, co-worker, etc posted on the same computer in a "highly similiar manner" that regular panache readers have grown accustomed to reading from you. BUT the likelihood of that is very small. As the youngsters say, "you need more people."

                  This will be my last response to you because you seem to enjoy the controversy/attention.
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              3. 12/10/2007 1:53 PM Ione wrote:
                This is true. The screen name I use is obviously not my real name. IP address can be detected to the fullest
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              4. 12/10/2007 4:57 PM JC wrote:
                Or you can use a series of IP addresses
                in the same location (a lot of college students try to do this & still get caught)---a pattern starts to emerge. Same with the statements & language used in blogs, fellow bloggers start to recognize you.
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          2. 12/10/2007 1:23 PM Trinity wrote:
            So he went on a rant this morning - letting the true colors come out...smh
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    4. 12/10/2007 11:38 AM nugman wrote:
      Ms Amber

      Where did I say black women? Please show me. The title of the thread is Playa with a Passport. You wrote, not me, that he has women overseas. I have no idea what color those women are. The BI didn't identify the race of the woman who had the abortion or the race of the women complaining about his lovemaking. Skeezers and hoes are identifiable by BEHAVIOR not color. Interesting how you would jump to the conclusion that I meant black women. I think that says more about what YOU think of black women than me.

      I have no idea what the Latina looks like. Beautiful was referring to her character and how she handled herself in relation to Shaq. I think we can both agree that she displayed high character with her decision not to be involved with a married man.

      Out of all the comments in this thread, I'm honored that you saw fit to comment on mine. As an independent, fair and objective moderator, I'm glad to see that you place Diva's judgement over your own. I would highly recommend that you reread this thread.

      I think I am due an apology.
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      1. 12/10/2007 12:54 PM Trinity wrote:
        LMAO.....omg. Dude, you been blasted - pep know of you from other sites - give it up
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        1. 12/10/2007 2:09 PM D.C. wrote:
          Before this site opened for comments, I would read Concrete Loop and a few of the other Black sites for my Blind Item fix. This Nugman's posting style is very familiar. Seems to enjoy denigrating Black women, blames them for everything that is wrong in the Black community. Always makes sure to inject into his statements 'I was born of a Black woman'. At some point he will work public assistance, baby momma drama, etc. into his posts.

          He is what is known as a internet Troll, posting specious arguments and personal attacks for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion. He has no real interest in the topic at hand - he just wants to bait arguments. Like the creatures they are named after, internet trolls show no redeeming characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of life on the net.
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          1. 12/10/2007 2:18 PM denise wrote:
            He is a serial troll and is so fixated on black woman hatred, it's disturbing. Over on BV, I will never forget a comment by him. This disturbed black woman killed her 7-year old boy child and nugman was saying, she killed him because he was not a thug. He also said, if black women are killed or murdered it is their fault, they bring it on themselves because if their killers are blk men, the black man does not wrong. Just crazy talk. Now when someone had posted a story on a black girl child being killed, he said, so what, she would have grown up to be on welfare with out of wedlock children, someone did her a favor. This guy is seriously deranged. I left BV because of his cruel comments.
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            1. 12/10/2007 2:49 PM Trinity wrote:
              it's official - dude is crazy/has no life....troll of the year
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          2. 12/10/2007 5:12 PM JC wrote:
            Come to think of it some where on youtube there is video of a black guy I think that rants the same way about blaming black women for everything. Is
            this you nugman? This guy is said to be from canada & living with a white woman----whom he says confronts black women in blogs too. Keeping talking, your about to be BI'ED or ousted (if we feel like it--nah too easy).
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  • 12/10/2007 11:49 AM diva wrote:
    Since you hate black women, which I saw early on, and now others are seeing, why are you on a black orientated site run by a black woman? You have insulted black women, homosexuals and "only" interracial couples if the woman is black and the man is white. The opposite is praised by you. The gig is up, you seriously need to move on. When I use to go to BV, I remember your vile posts directed towards black women with such hatred you sounded like a KKK member. You need to leave because this site is populated by black women. Go to the ones you love, whites and latino's, you will not be missed around here.
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    1. 12/10/2007 4:12 PM Stam Bag Fan wrote:
      Wow. I remember reading some of those postings on BV... din't realize it was one and the same. Well well well. I stand corrected everyone, and I apologize to the Panache community for allowing myself to be fooled.
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      1. 12/10/2007 5:17 PM JC wrote:
        You were not fooled, you had other more pressing things on your mind--like the BI's. You didn't see the pattern right away. Out of cycerspace something knocks you up side the head.
        GOTTA LOVE THIS SITE!!!!
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  • 12/10/2007 11:53 AM Bingo wrote:
    LOL I didn't get halfway through this BI before Shaq entered my mind. We deserved an easy one, after some of the previous brain teasers.
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  • 12/10/2007 11:59 AM anonymous1 wrote:
    I have a comment on the "Big Red" story.

    "Big Red" died in JUN of 2007 (?). I believe he died in a jet ski accident.

    He was supposedly incensed at the way the escot who claimed to have a relationship with Tom Cruise was treated.

    There was a detailed account of "Big Red's" interrogation with Anthony Pelicano online. I can't find the link to post it. Pelicano indicated that he believed "Big Red" because he held up under tough questioning, (I believe Pelicano is ex-NYPD). The interrogation was with an "alleged" encounter with Tom Cruise when he was in England filming "Eyes Wide Shut".
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    1. 12/10/2007 1:34 PM randee wrote:
      I did not know that big red died. I have been following this story since last year. Also, that sex tape broker guy who was bragging that he had photos of tom cruise with a guy, just died mysteriously too.
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      1. 12/10/2007 5:24 PM JC wrote:
        SCIENCETOLOGY MUSCLE TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS? KYW announced something about
        the government looking into sciencetology's methods & tactics of recruitement---possibly them effecting
        structured or religious societies (not sure).
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  • 12/10/2007 12:16 PM Bingo wrote:
    I don't think this can be just any baller, because they are not all so easy with the cash. Shaq is know to be extremely generous and modestly endowed. I guess the largesse compensates for the lack of being the largest. *snickers*
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  • 12/10/2007 12:30 PM Trinity wrote:
    I think maybe we should considered a baller who is not currently playing - this is b-ball season & Shaq being in Italy would be big news

    What do you all think? The Italy thing may elminiate footballers & basketballers leaving us with baseballers?? Whoes been traveling aboard?
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    1. 12/10/2007 1:04 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
      just because the lover lives in Italy doesn't mean he can't pay for her to travel to & from the states. If he paid 3 mill for an abortion- how much would he pay to have this lady travel, probably by private jet. Unfortunately the list of married black ballers with multiple kids, married to black a black woman for 3+ years with a reputation of publically dating black only doesn't seem to be an extensive list. Maybe this really is a freebie to allow us to get some rest b4 the next BI.
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      1. 12/10/2007 1:11 PM Trinity wrote:
        perhaps...i kinda got the impression that the baller was traveling to italy but you are right he can send for her.
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    2. 12/10/2007 2:07 PM Bingo wrote:
      Remember this player has to be famous enough to be known by the non-sports loving general public. Very few players in sports fit this description.
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  • 12/10/2007 12:41 PM Trinity wrote:
    how about Jerry Rice
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    1. 12/10/2007 12:58 PM shortness wrote:
      hey Trinity,

      Only one other person came to mind for me about this one and that was Kobe, but his wife is not black so that was it for him

      You didnt get in an accident on that ice yesterday did you? I ran to the store at about 10pm last night. As soon as I stepped out the door I slipped and damn near busted my a**.I cruised there and back never touching the accelerator.
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      1. 12/10/2007 1:09 PM Trinity wrote:
        Omg! that was a mess yesterday....girl, im glad you alright - but hey we missed that snow storm....
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  • 12/10/2007 1:11 PM Maya wrote:
    Hi everyone!! I think that it is Shaq as well, based on information from you guys as well as information I've heard for myself. It couldn't be solved that easy, could it?? lol...It's a shame, though. It's true, money talks, and it doesn't matter how you look as long as you've got major paper.
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  • 12/10/2007 1:19 PM Anonymous wrote:
    I think it's Shaq too
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  • 12/10/2007 1:30 PM white chocolate wrote:
    shaq all the way, this was easy, gave me a chance to rest my brain for a future harder BI.
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  • 12/10/2007 1:31 PM Ione wrote:
    My guess would be Shaq as well. That myth is not true bout big feet equating to a big (*$%! lol
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    1. 12/10/2007 1:40 PM Ione wrote:
      My guess would be Shaq as well. The myth about big feet equating to a big %$#^ is not true all the time poor baby. lol
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      1. 12/10/2007 2:10 PM Bingo wrote:
        I bet he's still bigger than Terrance Howard. *snickers*
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        1. 12/10/2007 2:28 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
          Brian White is neck in neck with Terrence Howard, I saw a shower scene and it was real sad. Terrence has more than JD, way more. Terrence is packing compared to JD.
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          1. 12/10/2007 2:47 PM Gne wrote:
            @Gorgeous Sable....
            Girl you are too much!!! ROFLMAO

            Please keep posting. I am loving your comments.
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          2. 12/10/2007 2:53 PM Trinity wrote:
            Stop it please - you shouldn't make fun of the handicap.....lol
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            1. 12/10/2007 3:09 PM Bingo wrote:
              If Mr. Howard is bigger than Mr. Dupri, then Mr. Dupri must actually be Miss Dupri. I can't imagine smaller than Slickback.
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              1. 12/10/2007 3:39 PM Ione wrote:
                You is cutting up in here to funny.
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            2. 12/10/2007 4:03 PM Deanna wrote:
              The handicapped...LMAO!
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          3. 12/10/2007 3:45 PM shortness wrote:
            G-Sable I know exactly the size you are talking about from EXPEIENCE!!!!!!!!!!!
            I was dating a guy for a whil and when it became time, you know, the foreplay and getting naked. I couldn't believe that after all of that we didn't DO IT. Until about a minute later and he let out a big sigh and discovered that we DID DO IT. I was too outdone. i looked at that thang and it was prolly as big as my pinky finger and my hands are very small.

            UGHHHHHHHHH!! My friends love for me to tell this story when they need a good fall down crying laugh.
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            1. 12/10/2007 3:49 PM Trinity wrote:
              LMAO.....grrrl stop it!!!!....please....wth...when u have sex & dont know u just had it....hell naw....tears
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            2. 12/10/2007 3:59 PM Bingo wrote:
              Bwaaaahahahahahaha! Ah hell to the naw!!!
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            3. 12/10/2007 8:35 PM Ga Girl wrote:
              We must have dated the same person, because I SWEAR this is the exact story I tell my friends WORD for WORD!!!!
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              1. 12/10/2007 9:54 PM shortness wrote:
                lmao!!1It's good to know that i am not alone in this. I thought I was the only one. Maybe we should start a support group.
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          4. 12/10/2007 4:16 PM Charles wrote:
            Hey G.Sable...

            I found this while on another site....Scroll down a little to see Mr. White....I am still LMAO.....http://rhymeswithsnitch.blogspot.com/2007_01_01_archive.html
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            1. 12/10/2007 4:23 PM Bingo wrote:
              Oh yeah. This photo was taken at the NCMWSD(National Conference of Men With Small Dicks)
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            2. 12/10/2007 4:28 PM Deanna wrote:
              ROTFLMAO! That's horrible and hilarious at the same time!!!!
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            3. 12/10/2007 8:16 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
              Charles: Thanks for providing visual evidence declaring that myself, Gorgeous Sable only speaks the truth up in here. Tried to tell you ladies, he was not packing but JD got less than that, lol. Night ladies and gents, Sable has a date, see you guys on Wed., for the next B.I. as G. Sable slips her Jimmy Choos on. Blowing kisses!
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            4. 12/10/2007 8:55 PM penn wrote:
              scroll down further to see Kravitz after Oprah "bow down" and M Vick "caught with weed"
              I hope he's a grower as well.
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              1. 12/10/2007 9:47 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
                I wouldn't care if you put chia pet pellets on that- it's not growing much bigger. Damn! Why did you have to show that to me and spoil the allusion. I feel like Florida Evans... Damn!Damn! Damn! That man has all that swagger and appeal and that's what Lenny is rocking?
                On the real, I have never in my life actually seen a grown man that has the gift that these I've seen from Terrence, Brian and Lenny (smh) and will someone please tell me what is the deal with Terrance and the babywipes that was referred to in another post? Nite y'all!
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                1. 12/11/2007 2:08 PM penn wrote:
                  Terrance and the babywipes:
                  this quote is from another site that quoted Elle Magazine:

                  In it he claims he doesn't believe in pre-martial sex
                  “There were some women who pushed for sex and sometimes, they won,” he confesses.“Afterward, I would feel unclean, like I’d compromised my own values… so I had to let them go.”

                  If they’re using dry paper, they aren’t washing all of themselves. It’s just unclean. So if I go inside a woman’s house and see the toilet paper there, I’ll explain this. And if she doesn’t make the adjustment to baby wipes, I’ll know she’s not completely clean.
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                  1. 12/11/2007 3:48 PM JC wrote:
                    I remember reading that statement Terrance made. My does he feel unclean?
                    Is he having gender identity problems? The vagina is self cleaning (acidic properties to fight bacteria,etc.)---so
                    what is HE going into that is soooo dirty?
                    THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO HMMMMMM.
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                    1. 12/11/2007 3:59 PM JC wrote:
                      CORRECTION:Why does Terrance feel so unclean? Gender identity problems....
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                  2. 12/11/2007 6:40 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
                    I am ROFLMBAO- that is hilarious. I have never heard this, only people alluding to the baby wipes.After seeing the nude clip of him, I think those baby wipes are for him to wipe his baby self! I can't look at him the same way again. Thanks Penn!
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              2. 12/10/2007 11:06 PM Bingo wrote:
                Scroll down where? I can't find it.
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                1. 12/11/2007 6:30 AM eyeonu2 wrote:
                  @crazy ass Bingo- go to the Link that Charles gave us above. You'll see Brian !st but keep scrolling past Oprah and mike V. and u will c what we are speaking of. Hurry cause I know you can do 2 or 3 jokes from this one :=)
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                  1. 12/11/2007 7:38 AM Ron Mexico's Valtrex and TO's Zoloft wrote:
                    Seems like the only pretty boy to hold up in the meat department, is Shemar Moore!!
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                    1. 12/11/2007 8:46 AM Gne wrote:
                      Check out Marcus Patrick's 'Playgirl' spread.
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                      1. 12/11/2007 11:53 AM Ron Mexico's Valtrex and TO's Zoloft wrote:
                        I dnt know who Marcus Patrick is?? (not that, that will stop me from looking)


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                    2. 12/11/2007 4:03 PM JC wrote:
                      MERCY! I saw those pictures---the man is fine all over! MERCY!
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                      1. 12/11/2007 4:06 PM JC wrote:
                        The MERCY! is referring to Shemar Moore's pictures in the buff on the beach---MERCY!
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                  2. 12/11/2007 12:13 PM Bingo wrote:
                    Okay, now I see. Actually, I don't see. Ya see? Um...well...anyway, the picture was tasteful and artistic and his circumscion apparently went well. I have nothing more to say on this, ahem, short subject.
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        2. 12/10/2007 3:35 PM Ione wrote:
          Ugh that's even worse. lol
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  • 12/10/2007 1:43 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
    I know that Nugman clown didn't say, I Gorgeous Sable should be moderated. Don't get me to throwing a hissy fit in here and don't bring my name into your mouth. I never did like you, your vibe is like a vibe I would get from Ted Bundy, the difference, I am on the computer getting that vibe. You are not wired right.

    Myra dear, is it true that some sky villa members will be receiving a book with all the blind item answers. Our friend told me. Only so many of this books were printed. Now I know, I am on the receiving end for one of these books but I don't remember receiving a invitation from you or staff. Please confirm or deny because Sable is close to a hissy fit up in here.
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    1. 12/10/2007 1:59 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
      @G.Sable-question for you, when you know the answer to one of the BI and the post are way off, do ou ever want to throw clues o point us in the right direction? Do you ever log on and get surprised by some of the BI's?
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      1. 12/10/2007 2:03 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
        Yes I do but Paris already does a good job of doing that. Yes, most of the BI's surprise me and a few don't and I can guess right away. This crew has Hollywood covered.
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        1. 12/10/2007 2:08 PM Myra wrote:
          Sable, settle down. I swear you and double H can get some false information. She was in here saying that PR is going private which is not true but after today, it would not be a bad idea and now you are telling me about a Blind Item book that I know nothing about. Settle down and I will email you later. Ignore Nugman, he seems to be getting off on this drama and wants to keep it popping. Paris was right about him.
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          1. 12/10/2007 2:54 PM Nita wrote:
            Hello Myra and PR family. Normally I read the BIs and just recently started posting some comments. I knew something wasnt right with the character who shall remain nameless as soon as I read beautiful latino. It just didn't come off right. I absolutely love this site and the discussions and I would hate if this section became private and I wasn't able to read it LOL!
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            1. 12/10/2007 3:02 PM Myra wrote:
              If it became private, all of you but a few would be invited but we are not going private and please continue to post. I will be having a staff meeting regarding this comment section on how to make it better while maintaining respect and maturity.
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              1. 12/10/2007 4:53 PM K-Kay - Lurking 24-7 wrote:
                Myra,
                I am a long-time lurker, first time poster. I love this site! The information you provide to your readers is beyond comparison to any other site. But I must agree that lately the comment section has become quite vicious lately with the personal attacks and derogatory comments towards whole races as well as genders.

                I only hope that if the comments section/entire website did become private, that the lurkers won't be left in the dark. As much as I enjoy observing the great interaction in here, by the time I feel like I may have something to contribute to the discussion, 2 or 3 people have already said what I was thinking!

                Anyway, keep up the great work! I'm here everyday!
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                1. 12/10/2007 6:05 PM appleeyes72 wrote:
                  I'm the same way, mostly a lurker but I'm enjoying the good information on here.

                  I'm not able to check the site out a work so by the time I get home, there's already over 200 posts here.

                  I love this site. It's my new crack.

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          2. 12/10/2007 5:44 PM JC wrote:
            MYRA,you & a lot of bloggers are starting to get mixed messages---is it possible that someone is messing with people in here? Maybe using your log in names to cause confusion or is it just miscommunication? Just noticing---it has been happening lately. Correct me if I wrong.
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            1. 12/10/2007 5:59 PM Myra wrote:
              JC: Sweetie thanks for bringing this to my attention, another subject to bring up at the meeting. We will also ask our readers to provide feedback to get this comment section back to what it was, and I am asking you now, to participate.
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              1. 12/10/2007 9:17 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
                You have a great site here. 2 things that would be nice features, include a setup so no posters could sign in using certain names ( Myra, Paris, Amber, Elan or any you deem appropriate) it's a little more restrictive but it helps to elude imposters. 2) it would be extra nice if after completing a post, you would be taken back to the spot you entered the post instead of back to the thread. I realize that sometimes, new info is added simultaneously and continueously but it gets a little confusing tryng to find out where you left off when there are lots of post. And thanks for being open to recieiving our feedback. I am a huge fan of the efforts of this site.
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              2. 12/11/2007 3:53 PM JC wrote:
                THANK YOU---I WILL BE GLAD TO HELP OUT WHATEVER WAY I CAN. YOU HAVE MY E-MAIL ADDRESS. LET ME KNOW. SMILE. I love this site!!!
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                1. 12/11/2007 5:36 PM JC wrote:
                  Good suggestions eyeonu2. Additionally,
                  is it too much work to erase bloggers comments that have 1 sentence guesses of notted people's names? Sometimes it takes up half a screen & the 2nd half is filled with other bloggers having to tell these people the guesses were notted. NOTE: It usually consist of 1 short sentence or name WITHOUT any tidbits on the notted person (s). ELIMINATING TROUBLE MAKERS: 1) who knows better to spot problem bloggers than long time bloggers in most cases? Some problem bloggers are slick enough to only attack new comers, most will go after cluster of bloggers (regulars)who seem to work together on the BI or agree often or very friendly towards each other---THRUST the regulars they can sniff these people out better than anyone. 2)Just like when you give a CLUE people regroup---there needs to a word or phrase used to cause the same effect when bloggers get too entangled in blog fights,etc. For example, ANNOUNCEMENT BLOGGERS! It has been confirmed by PEOPLE magazine that SHAQ & his wife maybe seeking council. OR
                  make it a political announcement or KYW news report (fires,etc.)---nothing too out there. MANY BLOGGERS WILL TALK ABOUT IT FOR A MINUTE THEN GO BACK TO THE BI. It's a distraction. 4)BLOCK some bloggers who seem to be causing trouble 1st, see if they come back. This is a short fix but effective. I hope some of this gives you & your staff some ideas. I add more when I get a chance.
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  • 12/10/2007 2:09 PM IncogNegro wrote:
    Once again Nugman shows his true feelings towards Black Women! Trinity and Trice please rethink ever agreeing with any of his hateful views. Calling a Latina beautiful while throwing shade on the black woman. As if every Latina woman is virginal and pure, as if every Black woman is out for the dollar bills.

    Amber/Myra/Paris PLEASE TAKE ACTION ON NUGMAN
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    1. 12/10/2007 2:30 PM Trinity wrote:
      huh....when did ever say i agreed with him...i think he's silly & i sometimes response - thats it
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      1. 12/10/2007 2:51 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
        InCog: Trinity never agreed with him.
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        1. 12/10/2007 2:58 PM Trinity wrote:
          ty....i didnt think i had....
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          1. 12/10/2007 3:00 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
            Girl, some of these names in here are similar. Like someone is the Gorgeous One and I am the Gorgeous Sable. Easy to get confused.
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      2. 12/10/2007 4:55 PM IncoNegro wrote:
        I apologize if u never did but I thought we had a dialogue on Game on Lock where you and Trinity agreed w/his comment on "morals".
        Either way I hope he is dealt with and or reconsiders his spiteful attitude and decides to rejoin with true intelligence and objectivity.
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        1. 12/10/2007 5:24 PM Trinity wrote:
          no need to apologize...u know we have that extra sense...yeah i sense that negative vibe from the jump too...
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        2. 12/11/2007 5:47 PM JC wrote:
          Keep in mind sometimes we all at one time or another may agree on a point --
          doesn't mean everything is accepted. Out of cycberspace comes a thought to shed light. ONE CAN ONLY HOPE SUCH A REJOINING COULD HAPPEN---DOUBT IT.
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    2. 12/11/2007 5:17 PM Stam Bag Fan wrote:
      I agreed with the fact he should bew able to speak his mind as he wishes, and the fact he wasn't afraid to comment whether or not he disagreed. I didn't realize he was a known troublemaker. My bad.
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      1. 12/11/2007 5:53 PM JC wrote:
        We all can speak our minds as long as we give fellow bloggers the same courtesy we expect them to show us.
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  • 12/10/2007 2:50 PM cocoalatte wrote:
    I personally don know of nugmans other "alleged ""bad behavior on other sites.Then again I 'm not on black voices so who knows? That may be an oversight on my part.I read his above comment and didnt find any sweeping broad generalization aimed at just black women. Did I miss something because I just read about a certain type of woman , with no reference being made to a race,other than the comment about the beautiful latina(which wasnt necessary,he could have simply stated a beautiful woman, and made his statement. We all know that skeezers and low down woman /gold diggers come in all races ,not just the black race, and I say this as a proud woman .
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    1. 12/10/2007 2:58 PM Gorgeous Sable wrote:
      You are one of my fav posters, loving your comments in the threads, learn so much from you but lets do each other a favor, lets stop talking about nugman.
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  • 12/10/2007 2:52 PM cocoalatte wrote:
    Proud black woman that is.By the way I take some offense to people making broad genralizations about anyone ,because naturally you cant speak for an entire race!Treat people as an infividual!
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  • 12/10/2007 3:44 PM Trebonique wrote:
    I am going to do a I remember when post about PR site.

    I remember when I logged in looking forward to reading everyone's post

    I remember all the intellectual conversations that occurred on PR.

    I remember the detective work that landed some PR members as the best research team on any site.

    Ok Ok.. I will stop.. but, its getting tiring now. I want gossip I love gossip and trying to figure out who is the gay rapper.. please lets stick to that and cut out the insults my fellow PR's.
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    1. 12/10/2007 4:25 PM Amber wrote:
      I agree and Myra is calling a staff meeting about this very subject. Don't know how everything got so off track but hopefully we can get it back on track.
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      1. 12/10/2007 5:48 PM Janet Jackson's Valtrex wrote:
        It got off track as word spread on the internet that Myra and her staff opened a Comment Section. The same non-sense poster's from other sites attempted to bring that non-sense over here not knowing this site draws a different kind of audience.

        This is the only site I visit where posters engage in mature discussions.
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        1. 12/10/2007 10:08 PM shortness wrote:
          Actually, I'm knew to the blog thing and I have been to other sites but only to read whats going on. I must say that I have never commented anywhere else and that I usually don't believe what I read on those other sites. However, I stumbled on this site bcuz I was looking for the blind item on CL and couldn't find it and remembered what the caption said about who wrote it. I typed that name in and found this site. What a beauty. It is EXACTLY what I was looking for. I love you guys and I tell everyone I can about this site and how you can BELIEVE what you read on here. I love all the stories from the celebs to the everyday people. One of the stories I actually know the couple because I went to high school with them and was astounded that they would even be interested in something like that. I LOVE this site and the conversations that follow. Keep it up PR you are right on point!!!!!!!!
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        2. 12/10/2007 10:18 PM SugarPlum wrote:
          Amen!!! Mature discussions...that's why I'm here.
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        3. 12/11/2007 7:57 AM shasfreespirit wrote:
          I have to agree on this one. I believe alot of the Concrete Loopers and MediaTakeouts found there way to our intelligent mature entertainment loving oasis...

          I like the idea of it being open but I also like the idea of it being private. I think it keeps out negative people who are not on the level of the audience here.

          When Concreteloop started posting Myra's blind items it was like World War 7 over there and now I rarely visit due to the extreme hostility. I would rather find out what's going on from a true insider in peace and intelligence.
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          1. 12/11/2007 10:26 AM Phyllis wrote:
            I'm with you. I used to read CL just for the Myra Panache BI's. One in particular was posted which I commented on. Why did the hell did I do that. I was insulted and hung out to dry (my answer was right by the way). It dawned on me that maybe I should google Myra Panache and see if she has a web site. I did and Hallelujah!!! there it was.

            Shortly after someone at CL decided to stop posting the BI's. I don't know if they started again, they must have but I have refused to visit that site and have not in almost a year. It's not directed to my particular age group anyway (40something).
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            1. 12/11/2007 12:55 PM Gne wrote:
              There is really no reason to visit the other sites now that we can comment and attempt to solve the Blind Items here. Most of the other sites "borrow" their insider information from PR anyway.
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              1. 12/11/2007 5:37 PM lola wrote:
                I noticed that to, not only are they borrowing, they are also making stories around our hottest comments in this section like they have a exclusive. This site is the best on the internet, new school, old school, bomb short stories, black underworld, disturbing/tragic. What amazes me, whatever category undertaken is done so well and professional and the consistency on the front page is also awesome, never a slow day for gossip on here. You feel like part of a exclusive club over here and they really care about their fans. Lets enjoy this.
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  • 12/10/2007 3:47 PM Trebonique wrote:
    Besides if this doesnt stop my boss won't look at this as historical fact finding anymore
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    1. 12/10/2007 5:50 PM Janet Jackson's Valtrex wrote:
      LOL, great cover!
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  • 12/10/2007 4:59 PM IncogNegro wrote:
    Myra/Paris/Amber can we do a rehash on some of the more serious blind items that were never solved?
    Such as Racist Schemer, Pedophile NBA Baller and the such.....

    Thanks!
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    1. 12/10/2007 8:08 PM Brunette Bombshell wrote:
      WHAT? These sound GREAT! Please post those again since I am WAY BEHIND on this site.
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      1. 12/11/2007 10:32 AM Phyllis wrote:
        What I do is, I periodically search the BI archieves to see if I can correctly guess who the subjects are. Especally when a news/gossip comes out that may be related to a BI on the site or I read something and I remember a BI post. I am getting good at it.
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  • 12/10/2007 5:46 PM One Blkman wrote:
    First of all I would like to said that this site is the best for entertainment news, The poster in here take this a little to serious at times but I can't stay way. I just wish we could get the answers to the BI sometimes. These celebrities are some of the nasties people on the planet we need better role models for our kids. To whom much is given much is tested (quoted Kayne) it seems they fail the same test over and over. Speaking as a Blackman I know I would have failed some of those test but how much Pu$$y can one man have. I am pretty sure they have sown their wild oats by now. It is time to be Grown men!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  • 12/10/2007 5:50 PM CHELL wrote:
    LADIES!!! Please do not let this wackjob nutmeg, lugnut or whatever the hell his name is throw us off our game.

    He obviously has been dissed by many beautiful BLACK women so to hell with him. I am a dark hispanic myself, but I think all women are beautiful especially black women ( no homo )why do you think every one gets suntans, lip and butt jobs HELLO!!!.

    So lets focus and get back to why we love this site!!! MYRA, PARIS & AMBER kudos this site cracks me up, Im glad I own my own business, because all the time I spend rolling on the floor cracking up just reading the comments I would be fired by now!

    Much Luv, and another BI PLEASE
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  • 12/10/2007 6:03 PM chyna wrote:
    HELLO Stephan MARBURY rembere he will be playing ball in ITALy once his NBA career is done and HE SAYS HOW MUCH HE LOVES Italy and he has like 3 or 4 kids. Why would shaq want to please his girlfriend if he has many kids by many women Hello
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    1. 12/10/2007 6:21 PM IncogNegro wrote:
      Wow, give more details on Stephon Mabury please!!
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      1. 12/10/2007 10:23 PM chyna wrote:
        Stephen have benn saying lately in all his sports interview how he love Italy and he convinced his wife to move over their . Him and his wife have Been traveling over there for the last 4 summer and she is in love wih Italy But have NO IDEA HIS MISTRESS IS THERE. I READ BETWEEN THE LINES
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    2. 12/10/2007 6:41 PM Bingo wrote:
      Folks who don't follow basketball don't know who this moron is. If you don't believe me, do an informal survey. Ask non-sports fans who Marbury is, then ask them who Shaq is.
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      1. 12/10/2007 7:09 PM Trinity wrote:
        lol
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        1. 12/10/2007 8:13 PM Paris wrote:
          OMG, I'm back, Amber was texting me earlier and telling me to check the comments when I got home. Whoa.

          Miss Trinity, have a good evening!
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          1. 12/10/2007 9:54 PM Peaches wrote:
            Paris, did you ever see that commercial where the mother turned her back for literally 2 seconds then turned back and her children had torn her house up? Yeah, well, that was this board today because there has been some smoke in the city! Shout out to all the PR-ers b/c in the midst of the craziness today, everyone still kept it grown & classy.
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          2. 12/11/2007 6:21 AM Trinity wrote:
            Glad to see u back...morning Paris
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  • 12/10/2007 6:09 PM blacksheep wrote:
    Regardless of what has transpired Myra & Paris...I still believe that this is one of the most neuronally explosive sites on the net! Good job.
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  • 12/10/2007 6:13 PM CHELL wrote:
    Myra or Paris, did you give any clues for this BI, there are so many comments on this site it's hard to sift through them.

    If you didn't It seems like Shaq is our man.

    Do you ever give the actual BI name, I'm pretty new to this site. But I'm so addicted it drives me nuts trying to figure these BI's out.
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    1. 12/10/2007 6:19 PM Janet Jackson's Valtrex wrote:
      Hey Chell! Here's a trick I use when I lose track of the comment convo's. Just hit Ctrl+F. This will open the Find box on your PC. Type in the name of your guess then select OK or hit enter. Or you can type in Myra or Paris, then select OK. By doing this, you can see if your comment was "notted" or you can find comments by specific posters. I use it all the time!
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      1. 12/10/2007 6:25 PM CHELL wrote:
        WOW, I just copied and pasted those instructions on my desk top. THANKS!!!!
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  • 12/10/2007 6:18 PM shelleynlbc wrote:
    ITS BIG SHAQ!!!
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  • 12/10/2007 6:22 PM Summer wrote:
    my vote is for Michael Jordan
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    1. 12/10/2007 6:37 PM Bingo wrote:
      Where have you been? MJ has only been seen with snowflakes since his divorce.
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      1. 12/10/2007 10:56 PM Gne wrote:
        He was only seen with snowflakes BEFORE his divorce.
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        1. 12/11/2007 12:00 PM IncogNegro wrote:
          Micheal jordan has been seen w/some black women and one hi profile black woman in particular,VANESSA LYNN WILLIAMS.

          If you are in NC, Charlotte and Raleigh Durham in particular then you have seen MJ out and partying w/Black Women and they don't have to be light/bright. Those women do not want to be photoed and busted all up in the press w/MJ but he did/does creep w/BLACK WOMEN!
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          1. 12/11/2007 12:04 PM IncogNegro wrote:
            Also it is pretty well known in the Raleigh/Durhan area that a Black business woman who lives in an exclusive area on a golf course has been w/MJ for years, straight out of Law School. Before, during and after Juanita. Word in NC was if Juanita hdnt gotten pregnant the 2nd time that NC woman would have been the wife and that is all I can say about that.
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          2. 12/11/2007 12:13 PM anon2 wrote:
            Also Janet Jackson
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          3. 12/11/2007 2:40 PM Gne wrote:
            In DC, it was snowflakes.
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  • 12/10/2007 7:20 PM Negrita wrote:
    Damn... What did I miss?? )

    Uhmmm... Nugman-CUAL ES TU PROBLEMA??QUE LASTIMA !!

    Good evening errybody ...
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    1. 12/10/2007 8:06 PM white chocolate wrote:
      Hey Miss Negrita, where you been? Missed u, glad you back.
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    2. 12/10/2007 10:15 PM shortness wrote:
      Hey Negrita, how have you been. I haven't seen you around lately. i tried e-mailing you yesterday at aim but it did not go thru.
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  • 12/10/2007 7:45 PM no doubt wrote:
    Panache report crew! If this becomes private it will leave lurkers (such as myself) who get a kick out of these blind items in the dark.

    I would like to ad it will give the hollywood clan a sigh of relief since the only ones able to read the blind items chats are those who have access to the privat room.

    speak on it!
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    1. 12/10/2007 9:53 PM Myra wrote:
      We are not going private. We already have one private division and that is sky villa. Our PR crew (posters and lurkers) have nothing to worry about BUT we will be moderating more strictly. We do not want the childish, disrespectful, self hating, uncivilized element in here therefore Amber and our online security guy aka spymaster (who has been asked to join Amber) will start blacklisting posters who make a habit out of provoking others and starting arguments, and insulting people, ASAP. We are not going to wait for a negative habit to evolve and develop, from now on, they will be eliminated from this site ASAP along with negative and insulting comments. We will speak on other steps to take during our meeting. Will keep everyone posted.

      For those of you who cannot be respectful and mature, this is not the site for you because we care about our posters having a nice and mature atmosphere vs. the more people, the bigger ratings. Our readers are the number one priority on this site.

      If a person's IP is banned and they use another IP to gain entry, spymaster and amber will work around the clock until they ban all IP's from entry and they will take additional blacklisting steps besides a IP.
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  • 12/10/2007 11:24 PM Gne wrote:
    Sorry, this is off topic but everyone needs to be on guard...

    A local Teacher died on Sunday evening due to complications from methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus, or MRSA.

    Please wash your hands! Tell your children, friends, family, co-workers to wash their hands! It's not a panacea but it helps. Please.

    Sorry Myra.
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    1. 12/11/2007 1:29 AM Nyllatoo wrote:
      Thank you for jacking this thread to comment on MRSA. It is very off topic but a serious subject. I can't wait til the day that we can come to this site and have a message board type forum where we can post and make comments about random things. I work with a girl that has MRSA and everyone in my office is scared to death. I am always washing my hands and I stay lathered up in anti baterial lotion. It is scary what is going on nowadays.
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  • 12/11/2007 8:28 AM Candid Canuck wrote:
    Barry Bonds?
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    1. 12/11/2007 8:41 AM Candid Canuck wrote:
      Barry Bonds.
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  • 12/11/2007 8:39 AM Presidential wrote:
    I dont think its Shaq. That would be too easy. Myra and the crew wouldn't throw us one so easy, or would they? It is christmas!
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  • 12/11/2007 10:14 AM GossipLover wrote:
    I've been a silent reader for a while now and I just want to say I LOVE this site and all the comments. I get so many juicy tidbits from you guys.

    Now on to the BI.... I think Shaq may just be too easy.. On ACG blind items they are saying thats it's Barry Bonds...
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    1. 12/11/2007 10:31 AM Trinity wrote:
      good find...i was kinda leaning toward a baseballer:

      Howard asked Kimberly about Barry's wives and found out that she was still having sex with Barry the night of his wedding. She said that he was right back at her place right after the honeymoon too. Howard said that she also recorded some of his voice mails and kept them. She said that he left her messages, she didn't record them without him knowing. He left some threatening messages for her and she's played them for the grand jury in this case she's involved with. She said that he's threatened to kill her on many occasions.

      http://www.agcwebpages.com/BLINDITEMS/REFERENCES/REF42.html
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      1. 12/11/2007 12:10 PM Ron Mexico's Valtrex and TO's Zoloft wrote:
        This HO also went on Extra TV show to dog Barry, now Barry is such a bad guy to her. But when he was still balling and paying her bills, he wsnt bad then now was he. Same deal w/OJ and Nicole as long as these black athletes are breaking off the cheddar, these white groupies love them, once the cheddar gets moldy, its time to DIVORCE and take it all, or testify.
        Name one black groupie (superhead EXCLUDED) who doggs aout the man when the funds get low?? JUST ONE!!
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        1. 12/11/2007 12:19 PM anon2 wrote:
          And don't forget michael strahan's white woman and what about the white wife who had all those abortions by her black nfl husband because she did not want biracial kids, she did it behind his back.
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          1. 12/11/2007 1:25 PM Gne wrote:
            Strahan's ex Jean accused him of an "alternative lifestyle", reportedly moved her personal 'carpenter' into the home and won a $15.3 million decree in the divorce. The judge upheld the couple's prenuptial agreement, which called for her to get 50% of the joint property and 20% of his salary for each year of the marriage.

            Miss Ann got paid.
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          2. 12/11/2007 1:46 PM Bingo wrote:
            Who dat?
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            1. 12/11/2007 1:47 PM Binbo wrote:
              I mean, who is the NFL player with the abortion-addicted wife?
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              1. 12/12/2007 8:48 PM Carolina Girl 80 wrote:
                The NFL Player with the abortion addicted ex wife was Giants WR Amani Toomer

                This woman use to belittle him 24/7.
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          3. 12/11/2007 5:10 PM Ron Mexico's Valtrex and TO's Zoloft wrote:
            What!! How u gonna marry a black man but not want to have a "black" baby! More proof that these women are ALL about the Dollar signs. I am convinced they are attending a camp sponsored by the KKK on how to hook a rich black man, distance him from his family and culture and then WHAM...Take him all the way down!!
            Not speaking on every white woman married to a black man(athlete) but this seems to be a Pattern for sure!
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            1. 12/12/2007 8:54 PM Carolina Girl 80 wrote:
              This is Amani Toomer and his ex wife Yola

              Here is the link from the NY Post

              http://www.nypost.com/seven/02262007/news/regionalnews/abort_shock_in_giant_divorce_regionalnews_jeane_macintosh_and_dan_mangan.htm?page=0
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              1. 12/12/2007 9:04 PM Carolina Girl 80 wrote:
                According to this article, Toomer pissed on Yola's clothes and threw her Blackberry in the Hudson because she wouldn't have sex with her.
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      2. 12/11/2007 12:16 PM Ron Mexico's Valtrex and TO's Zoloft wrote:
        Also I want her to tell how she returned the money and jewelry he gave her after the MANY times he threatened to Kill her! I would like to here the recording where he threatened to Kill her and then she said "I dont ever want to take another gift from you EVER, nor do you need to pay the rent over here" There is no such recording because guess what SHE continued to see Barry and take his money. Barry dropped her and then she started all this Yapping.
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    2. 12/11/2007 12:28 PM NtheKnow wrote:
      I might be incorrect, but wasn't Barry Bond's first wife Caucasian? I thought she was, because when I found out that he had remarried, and that his wife was Black, I was quite surprised.
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      1. 12/11/2007 12:36 PM anon wrote:
        You are correct, first wife was white and she claimed he beat her during pregnancies. He is dumb, she was linked to more than a few of his pittsburg pirate teammates before he married her and they were laughing behind his back when he married her. This second wife was his high school sweetheart.
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        1. 12/11/2007 6:32 PM eyeonu2 wrote:
          Yes Barry seemed quite taken with Ms. Sun from Sweden and then she took him to the Cali supreme court to get the prenup annulled. This is the same Bonds that is in hella trouble now and balking at the cost of expensive lawyers to try to salvage his reputation and keep his dumb behind from jail. Doesn't sound like someone who'd drop 3 mill on an abortion.
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      2. 12/11/2007 1:57 PM c in atl wrote:
        whaaat Barry Bond is married to a black woman..(faints)
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        1. 12/11/2007 7:29 PM Stam Bag Fan wrote:
          A couple years ago I was at a Warrior game (free front row tickets) and before the team hit the court, they actually had the announcer get on the mike and GRANDLY introduce Barry Bonds as he came from the back and he and his wife went out to their seats. Not only was I shocked she was black, but the game started at 7:35 PM, it was the middle of a heatwave so it was still quite warm (even inside) and this woman was wearing a full length fur coat with bling to match. And pumps. To a Warriors game. Ghetto Fab indeed. I giggled the entire time, especially as my gal pals kept loudly wondering since when did Barry go back to black. Ahh... fun times were had by all.
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  • 12/11/2007 10:58 AM soulful_brotha wrote:
    Good morning, I see I am way behind the curve on this one. I take one day off and I miss everything! While I do think this may be Shaq I am more surprised that drama is trying to rear its ugly head in a house I have grown to be very fond of. I mentioned before that I like the vibe and the chill attitude of this site. I hope it stays this way. Peace
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    1. 12/11/2007 11:10 AM Spymaster (Sky Villa Security) wrote:
      Myra brought me into the fold to assist Amber to make sure it stays this way.
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      1. 12/11/2007 11:46 AM blacksheep wrote:
        Will you be monitoring the chat room, too?
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      2. 12/11/2007 12:29 PM Amber (Moderator) wrote:
        Eric (Spymaster). Calling you on your celly now, need to tell u something.
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  • 12/11/2007 12:24 PM Bingo wrote:
    WARNING! RANT ALERT!

    Will someone please serve Michael Jackson a hot cup of hoe-sit-yo-ass-down? Ooooohhhhh, you won't to be Black again, now that the snowmen don't want anything more to do with your child molesting ass. Black folks are hip to the game. Your Black ass is no longer welcome. I don't care how many covers of Jet and Ebony you are on. How many years has it been since you appeared on the covers of these magazines? Why now? *sucks teeth* Fuck your pale bitch ass!!!
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    1. 12/11/2007 1:02 PM lavender wrote:
      lol**falls out flat**
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    2. 12/11/2007 1:09 PM Gne wrote:
      Don't bite your tongue...tell us how you really feel!

      Seriously, he is not the first. They all come running back when the paler people kick them to the curb.

      Exception... O.J.
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      1. 12/11/2007 1:14 PM NtheKnow wrote:
        Don't forget, when OJ was either awaiting the verdict or when he was acquitted, he made the Black Church rounds, wrapped in Kinte' cloth robes and appearing quite contrite. His cameos in the Black community ended shortly afterward.
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        1. 12/11/2007 1:25 PM Bingo wrote:
          Ya damn right. Stupid Negroes let that double murderer use them. The same dumbasses were willing to let someone like Geronimo Pratt rot in jail and won't even fix their mouths to say Mumia Abu Jamal. *sucks teeth* *rolls eyes*
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          1. 12/11/2007 1:35 PM white chocolate wrote:
            Same thing happened with vanessa williams, she was engaged to a white boy, turned her back on the blk community and wouldn't have much to do with us. After the scandal, the white boy and his family kicked her to the curb and she came back and ain't never left. During her reign, she even praised ronald reagan, lol.
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            1. 12/11/2007 5:22 PM Ron Mexico's Valtrex and TO's Zoloft wrote:
              I disagree totally in what you are saying and not sure on where u got ur info on Nessa but:

              1. Vanessa broke up w/white boy when she fell in love w/Ramon Hervey. White Boy and his family both went public and talked about how decent and respectable Vanessa was and how they know she can get through the scandal.

              2. Vanessa has never ever allowed anyone to call her bi-racial and she is quick to educate people who do not thing Black people can have blue/green eyes and light hair.

              3. The Miss America organization is a business and don't think Vanessa as a 19 year old really had a choice in speaking the words that are written for her by the organizations. Her job is to represent America, no way in hell she can diss the president while she is wearing the crown. She was already getting Death threats.
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        2. 12/11/2007 1:36 PM Gne wrote:
          Whoa...How did I miss that? My bad. Thanks for the information NtheKnow!
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          1. 12/11/2007 1:41 PM NtheKnow wrote:
            You're welcome. But, don't feel too badly about it. His return was so brief, I would not have believed it if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes. And then I blinked, and he was back in Malibu, probably using those robes to shine his shoes.
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    3. 12/11/2007 1:58 PM penn wrote:
      Another site called him "Jet beauty of the week" but left out his measurements and hobbies
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    4. 12/11/2007 4:10 PM Negrita wrote:
      *dies*
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      1. 12/11/2007 4:12 PM Negrita wrote:
        @Bingo's RANT above ^^^about MJ !
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  • 12/11/2007 5:53 PM Stam Bag Fan wrote:
    This is a good reason why we as black people should stop jumping on the "Because their black" bandwagon without all the facts. There are way too many occasions where black celebrities leave their blackness at the door to assimilate, snd then come running back when they get into trouble. OJ has been a sellout fo ryears, and the only time he's "pro black" is in the courtroom. Michael looks like a bad drag Elizabeth Taylor...intentionally. Yet, when he gets busted for touching those kids or wants to get out of a record contract... BLACK POWER! Whatever negrah. That's one of the reasons I love this site, it exposes a lot of these black celebs for what they really are behind the scenes, some good some bad.
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  • 12/11/2007 6:04 PM PhillyGirl wrote:
    Unfortunately, many of these black celebrities have deep-rooted self hate issues. I think it's something that is perpetuated in the black community from the light skin factor to the "good" and "pretty" hair thing. People who have the features that are more aesthetically pleasing to whites and blacks (lighter skinned, European look) are made to feel guilty about something they have no control over while those who have very African features are made to feel less than worthy. We have a longs ways to go. Hey, Myra, do you have any nostalgia items or even current items on colorism and such in black and white Hollywood? I am pretty sure it still exists but maybe people will not speak out about it. Oh, if you have any thing else on people passing, please do share. I've become obsessed with that dynamic and would really like to study that.
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    1. 12/11/2007 7:06 PM Myra wrote:
      Go to the front page, to the left, click on the declassified button, we have a lot about this in that feature.
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    2. 12/11/2007 7:41 PM Trinity wrote:
      Maybe one day when we are mentally off the plantation. Those lighter black pep who were treated 'somewhat' better, were the slave master's children - but we still believe pep have a preference for one over the other - no one make us feel more guilty than we - in some cases even our own parents.
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      1. 12/11/2007 9:32 PM Paris wrote:
        We will have something on the front page on friday regarding a celebrity and this very issue. Don't miss!
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      2. 12/12/2007 8:59 AM ANON12/12/07 wrote:
        ** Sharing a memory that is still so painful I have never mentioned it to anyone (hence the Anon above) **

        My great-grandmother scolding my mother for not "squeezing my nose" and then proceeding to show her the proper way to do it so I would have a thin, white nose. Because "you don't want that child growing up and having a wide nose spread all across her face". My mother continued to do this several times a day trying to 'mold' my nose because she believed her grandmother knew what was best.

        I cannot be angry at great-grandma (may she rest in peace) because she was only doing what she thought was best and I understand why my mother followed her elders advice but it still hurts.
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        1. 12/12/2007 4:00 PM penn wrote:
          "squeezing my nose"
          I have not heard that term in a long time and "shaping the head"
          thanks for the story ANON12/12/07
          and our grandparents have some stories *whew*
          they have been through things, I can't even imagine
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      3. 12/12/2007 8:59 AM ANON12/12/07 wrote:
        ** Sharing a memory that is still so painful I have never mentioned it to anyone (hence the Anon above) **

        My great-grandmother scolding my mother for not "squeezing my nose" and then proceeding to show her the proper way to do it so I would have a thin, white nose. Because "you don't want that child growing up and having a wide nose spread all across her face". My mother continued to do this several times a day trying to 'mold' my nose because she believed her grandmother knew what was best.

        I cannot be angry at great-grandma (may she rest in peace) because she was only doing what she thought was best and I understand why my mother followed her elders advice but it still hurts.
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        1. 12/12/2007 9:03 AM ANON12/12/07 wrote:
          Sorry about the double post. PC was slow so I hit the submit button twice.
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        2. 12/16/2007 3:25 PM Hidoll wrote:
          I've heard about the squeezing the nose into shape. And I agree your great grandmother was only doing what she was taught.

          A friend of mine great aunt once said at the dinner table that if she didn't want her little boy having a wide ugly nose she should squeeze it everyday until it forms it shape. It was kinda funny b/c her aunt is a much older woman who thougth she wasn't being hurtful but helpful just up and said it as they were having sunday dinner.

          My friend said she didn't say anything because she was trying to show respect for her b/c of the fact that she's the family oldest aunt. But she said she was steaming and everyone around the table could see she was doing all she could to hold back.

          I don't believe that nose squeezing thing but like you said it's what your great grand mother and that older aunt believe they knew what was best.

          The elder people mean to harm they just say and do what they were brought up on
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          1. 12/16/2007 3:54 PM BigWin wrote:
            Just like they used to tell us that watching a pot would stop the water from boiling in it... Dang, the stuff they came up with.
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            1. 12/16/2007 4:05 PM Hidoll wrote:
              Yes Bigwin, thats part of a roots and where we came from. But some of the things they said and did was good for that time but funny now.

              There are some good ones in my family. If I named them all we'de be here all night.
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    3. 12/16/2007 4:00 PM Hidoll wrote:
      I total agree 100% it's deep rooted self hate issues within the black community from lighter skinned black and dark ones too. I heard plenty of dark skinned saying to each other

      "with your blackself" your blackass, DAMN HE OR SHE BLACK! YOUR MAMA MUST TO LEFT U IN THE OVEN TO LONG

      Now this is one black person saying this to anothr black who was just as dark as the other. I admit I have said it when I'd get mad at a friend or family. I also admit that when I've been around someone who was really dark skinned I'd look at the and may have even made a face. But this is when I was much younger THANK GOD as I got older I realize "HELL GIRL, HOW CAN YOU JUST DOG A DARKER SKINNED PERSON" YOU WRONG!!!

      I also realize that the reason I did it was because I saw other kids and people within my family who would talk about how black Mr. Saw N Saw and his kids are.

      My mother whupped my butt once when I was outside talking about how dark a neighbor's daughter was she went to my mother and told my mother I was outside making fun how dark her daughter was I was doing it becase the other kids were and BOY ON BOY!

      When my mother called me in the house I could tell by the way she called me I was in trouble about something I just didn't know what.


      I FOUND OUT

      My mother was pissed she had to gave me a long talk after that wuppin, telling me that I need to realize that even if someone is darker then me I'm still black too and if we got around a racist group both me and the neighbors daughter would be called worse names then black and treated like we were animals.


      So yes PhillyGirl it's in the black community and part of it is the socity
      as well.

      We make comments about our own people but get pissed if someone outside the black race say it

      Hmmmmmmmmm,

      U think this is part of the reason a lot of the brothers date and marry outside the black race? Because they rather not have they kids to growup being called names and have comments like

      Skillet, Midnight, DAMN U BLACK and other hurtful names?
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      1. 12/17/2007 7:07 AM Trinity wrote:
        very true...we as blk pep need to get pass all that bs....race/color card is an euro concept anyway
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      2. 12/17/2007 7:36 AM lavender wrote:
        Hey Hidoll, Don't forget "black dog" was a favorite slur used in the seventies by little black children with pride.I pray that we change this backwards mindset that has set us back eons.The color issues are huge in 2007, and, that is a tragedy.hmmmmmm
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        1. 12/17/2007 2:49 PM Gne wrote:
          "inkie dinkie, tarbaby, boogabear, crispy critter" were popular in Virginia where I grew up.
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        2. 12/17/2007 4:26 PM Hidoll wrote:
          Oh I forgot about Blackdog that one and tarbaby was a trip as well. When I was younger my uncles made a really hurtful comment about anothr uncle's wife b/c she was so dark. He said she was so BLACK when she sweat it look like she was sweating ink.It cause some tension between they too, because she found out through another family memeber waht he had said. He said he was just plaaying but it didn't matter to her her feelings were so hurt for yrs she never really had much to say to him.

          And check this out Lavender, family and friends also had comments about lighter skinned blacks in the family too so YA DAMN IF YA TOO DARK AND YA DAMN IF YA TOO LIGHT!



          One of my cousin is very light skinned and they say about her that she "LIGHT BRIGHT DAMN NEAR WHITE"

          It's a trip how we talk about our own people.

          I'm proud and happy with my skin color and I don't give a DAMN about whoever don't if they don't like it too bad I have NO CONTROL over the color I'm wrapped in.

          U know where the name calling came from? and the sad part is that blacks keep the name calling alive. So many of are ancestors have dead sicken deaths over the color of they're skin and other ancestors have been beaten and also killed to get freedom and respect to make it easier for future ancestors. And we call each other names, black on black crime is sick. So if we can't really love, respect and embrace each other why then should we think anyone outside the black will?
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  • 12/11/2007 8:09 PM Candid Canuck wrote:
    PhillyGirl,

    I agree... a few yrs ago, my cousin in NY came up here in Toronto and were starting to talk all that mess to me about light skin - darkskin, social prestige and beauty....

    I ignored his dumbass.
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    1. 12/12/2007 1:27 PM PhillyGirl wrote:
      Damn shame.
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  • 12/17/2007 11:43 AM Dont know everything wrote:
    Shaquille O'neal, it's gotta be!!!!! I'm familiar with his actions. Rumors are everywhere.
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  • 12/17/2007 11:47 AM LolaLuvButt wrote:
    This girl isn't in Florida. She's in LA. I think I know who it is.
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  • 12/18/2007 7:34 AM Fluckneesha Ewebanks wrote:
    Yeah, it's a trip. My Grandmother used to call me her little Ace of Spades and thought that was a term of endearment! What's really crazy is I'm only slightly darker than hmmm, let's see... Nia Long. Granny's mother was very, very fair, to the point of passing, and her father was white. I have so many shades of color in my family that we resemble a rainbow when we get together. Blue/greyish/green eyes, blonde hair, red hair and freckles, and the standard brown/black hair and brown/black eyes. We run the gamut.

    Oh yeah, I won't go into the term "good hair" 'cause that's a whole 'nother issue.
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    1. 12/18/2007 11:14 AM Hidoll wrote:
      The thing that gets me is that elders never really stop to think that when they make comments or statements might hurt or offend the person they are speaking of.


      But our elders are so set on they're ways b/c of the way they were brought up they just don't think its hurts, they mean NO harm(I guess)

      I have aunts in my on my mom side of the family who are in they're 80's and 90's and Bless they're hearts they tend to say things that is hurtful without thinking it hurts.

      Little Ace of Shades is a hurtful name I mean just hearing it it sounds cold and thoughtless, but she didn't realize nor did she mean any harm. If u had told her it hurts your feelings she might have felt bad that that name bothered u
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      1. 12/18/2007 12:10 PM lavender wrote:
        Hidoll and Miss Eubanks: Sometimes the elders know that those words and terms are cruel, but they choose to use them anyway.I'm quite sure your grandma was praised for her cafe au lait hue(mine was grandma & mom) and " good hair as a child!" I know the color thing is not just regional(how about a global problem), but it is a world wide problem that we face.I think I read on here(yes, it was on PR) about Ava Gardner's "touch of the tar brush" reference,she made to explain her black lineage. Boy, Do I have a million and one stories to tell, but I will spare yall the drama.
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        1. 12/19/2007 7:16 PM Hidoll wrote:
          Lavender, I would like to hear some of those stories.

          My mother said the same thing that the elders know what they said is hurtful.
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  • 12/18/2007 2:15 PM Screwed Up Folks wrote:
    You guys are going off the topic...LETS's GET BACK ON
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    I am from Brazil and learning to read in English, please tell me right I wrote the following sentence: "For cheap airline tickets, discount international airfares and domestic flights cheapasianflights."

    THX , Rosetta.
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    1. 3/12/2009 12:29 PM SPYMASTER wrote:
      DO NOT ADVERTISE YOUR BUSINESS IN HERE!
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